Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.
Source: Steve Gallen
As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.
Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.
He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
I agree with everything you're saying, and I completely understand why he went. I'm just saying I won't be giving him a heroes welcome on his return.
Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.
Source: Steve Gallen
As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.
Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.
He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
I agree with everything you're saying, and I completely understand why he went. I'm just saying I won't be giving him a heroes welcome on his return.
That’s absolutely fine and everyone is entitled to that. It would just be a shame if he were to recieve a poor reception when he does return.
I clapped Clarke yesterday for example and think he is a great pro, but Grant done more in his time here and also came through the academy, plus signed for a club higher in the pyramid, not as if it was a sideways step.
My point in regards to his reception, if it’s not as good as Clarke’s was yesterday, then it’s rather embarrassing. Doesn’t have to be a heroes welcome, I’m not suggesting that at all.
Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.
Source: Steve Gallen
As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.
Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.
He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
I agree with everything you're saying, and I completely understand why he went. I'm just saying I won't be giving him a heroes welcome on his return.
That’s absolutely fine and everyone is entitled to that. It would just be a shame if he were to recieve a poor reception when he does return.
I clapped Clarke yesterday for example and think he is a great pro, but Grant done more in his time here and also came through the academy, plus signed for a club higher in the pyramid, not as if it was a sideways step.
My point in regards to his reception, if it’s not as good as Clarke’s was yesterday, then it’s rather embarrassing. Doesn’t have to be a heroes welcome, I’m not suggesting that at all.
I have always stuck up for Grant as the site archives will show.
However the Clarke comparison is not a fair one as Clarke's departure was down to circumstances arising following a long term injury.
People recognised that and applauded him accordingly as he contributed well during the short period of time he was fit.
In terms of Grant people will have to make their own minds up. I suspect there was pressure from Roland for him to leave irrespective of his (Karlan's) own preferences which distinguishes him from Parker for example.
I will clap Karlan if he returns to The Valley in a FA Cup match in the future. I don't see him returning imminently any other way.
Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.
Source: Steve Gallen
As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.
Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.
He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
I agree with everything you're saying, and I completely understand why he went. I'm just saying I won't be giving him a heroes welcome on his return.
That’s absolutely fine and everyone is entitled to that. It would just be a shame if he were to recieve a poor reception when he does return.
I clapped Clarke yesterday for example and think he is a great pro, but Grant done more in his time here and also came through the academy, plus signed for a club higher in the pyramid, not as if it was a sideways step.
My point in regards to his reception, if it’s not as good as Clarke’s was yesterday, then it’s rather embarrassing. Doesn’t have to be a heroes welcome, I’m not suggesting that at all.
I have always stuck up for Grant as the site archives will show.
However the Clarke comparison is not a fair one as Clarke's departure was down to circumstances arising following a long term injury.
People recognised that and applauded him accordingly as he contributed well during the short period of time he was fit.
In terms of Grant people will have to make their own minds up. I suspect there was pressure from Roland for him to leave irrespective of his (Karlan's) own preferences which distinguishes him from Parker for example.
I will clap Karlan if he returns to The Valley in a FA Cup match in the future. I don't see him returning imminently any other way.
I wasn’t comparing the circumstances, just the reception. I understand as to why Clarke got a good one yesterday and I was part of that, I was only using it as a baseline as to what Grant should receive.
Why only The FA Cup? You do not believe we could go up this season and he could be playing against us in the Championship next season?
Thanks to Roland, we can now say we have seen a Championship star of the future.
The thoughts that entered my weird and unique mind when I was at the 4-1 victories against Watford and Sheffield Wednesday U23 recently, was I watching the stars of League 2 in two years time ?
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.
Source: Steve Gallen
As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.
Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.
He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
I agree with everything you're saying, and I completely understand why he went. I'm just saying I won't be giving him a heroes welcome on his return.
That’s absolutely fine and everyone is entitled to that. It would just be a shame if he were to recieve a poor reception when he does return.
I clapped Clarke yesterday for example and think he is a great pro, but Grant done more in his time here and also came through the academy, plus signed for a club higher in the pyramid, not as if it was a sideways step.
My point in regards to his reception, if it’s not as good as Clarke’s was yesterday, then it’s rather embarrassing. Doesn’t have to be a heroes welcome, I’m not suggesting that at all.
I have always stuck up for Grant as the site archives will show.
However the Clarke comparison is not a fair one as Clarke's departure was down to circumstances arising following a long term injury.
People recognised that and applauded him accordingly as he contributed well during the short period of time he was fit.
In terms of Grant people will have to make their own minds up. I suspect there was pressure from Roland for him to leave irrespective of his (Karlan's) own preferences which distinguishes him from Parker for example.
I will clap Karlan if he returns to The Valley in a FA Cup match in the future. I don't see him returning imminently any other way.
I wasn’t comparing the circumstances, just the reception. I understand as to why Clarke got a good one yesterday and I was part of that, I was only using it as a baseline as to what Grant should receive.
Why only The FA Cup? You do not believe we could go up this season and he could be playing against us in the Championship next season?
56 years of following our mob has taught me not to allow my excitement to run away with me too early.
I think crowds are more sympathetic to players who move down the football ladder, i.e those who’ve been released or who leave to get 1st team football rather than those who move up the ladder. Thus Waggy say would get a better reception than Cousins or Holmes
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
I'll give the upbeats £20 if Grant plays for another Premier League side next season. You can all hold me to that.
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
I'll give the upbeats £20 if Grant plays for another Premier League side next season. You can all hold me to that.
He won't play Premier League football ever again once Huddersfield go down.
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
I'll give the upbeats £20 if Grant plays for another Premier League side next season. You can all hold me to that.
He won't play Premier League football ever again once Huddersfield go down.
People were saying he'd be playing non-league league soon last season.
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
I'll give the upbeats £20 if Grant plays for another Premier League side next season. You can all hold me to that.
Nice one Golfie, Norwich, Leeds if promoted, Burnley and Brighton to name just 4 teams that could go for Grant because even though he still has a lot to learn he has pace and can score goals. He's only 21 but has played in all 4 divisions.
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
I'll give the upbeats £20 if Grant plays for another Premier League side next season. You can all hold me to that.
He won't play Premier League football ever again once Huddersfield go down.
I wouldn't rule it out completely, but I can't see the PL being his natural level unless he improves significantly.
Yes he scored a cracking goal a couple of weeks ago, but then Lisbie scored that hattrick against Liverpool and he found his natural level lower down.
Why do people think he's instantly going to be in the Championship next season?
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
I'll give the upbeats £20 if Grant plays for another Premier League side next season. You can all hold me to that.
He won't play Premier League football ever again once Huddersfield go down.
That's a pretty bold claim!
Not only do Huddersfield have a pretty good chance of going back up but if he scores a couple more goals by the end of the season then one of the promoted sides might take a punt on him next season.
Goals are the most precious thing in football and people are always looking for goalscorers.
Karlan has played 7 and scored 3 in the PL. Which included a deflection off his knee and a world class curler from just outside the 18 yard box...
People saying he needs to improve significantly may need to understand he has and always has had that knack of being in the right place at the right time, but he has added finishing to that since January 2018.
He has also been involved in 60% of Huddersfields goals when he's been on the pitch.
He's only played 399 minutes and that works out as a goal every 133 minutes. Not bad really, especially in a struggling side.
Wish him all the best and could see a mid-table side taking a punt on him also.
Look at how much he has improved already in the last 12 months. With better coaching, training facilities and players around him to learn from there is no reason he will plateau already. Look at some of the overseas tosh that clubs sign. No reason a young, English player wouldn't be an attractive option for a middle/lower prem club.
They won't need to sell Grant for financial reasons, so unless a silly bid came in I expect he'll be their player in the Championship next year and suspect he'll do well. He's already likely to be their top scorer this season in the league.
He'll get a small clap from me if he plays against us, not a Chris Powell reception but I won't be booing him.
Lots of people up above talking about Grant playing against us next season, they have done their bit and are confirmed to be in The Championship next season. We have a long, long way to go.
I don't get these short career comments. I would rather have 15 years at 50k a week that 40 at 1k a week any day.
15 years is more than many get. Would be interested to know what the average is.
Clubs gaining promotion from the Championship might well be looking to strengthen their squads, as might clubs who only just avoided relegation from the Premiership, and he’s just the sort of player with the goalscoring touch they’ll be looking for. I expect they’ll probably pay more than £1.5m.
Let's use realistic figures... I'll be working at least 30 more years as it stands and earn about £750 a week.
£20k a week is a reasonable average salary for a footballer across 10 years (quite a short career).
I'd rather have 10 years at 20k a week than 30 at £750 a week.
That's £10.4m vs £1.17m
In 2 weeks I'd have out earned my annual salary. Probably will have bought every gadget I wanted and be planning on buying a plot of land to build a house and a new car and a new motorbike...
Once I've wasted say £5m I think I could live off the remainder for the rest of my days. (It'd still be more than I'd earn doing what I do)
Karlan has played 7 and scored 3 in the PL. Which included a deflection off his knee and a world class curler from just outside the 18 yard box...
People saying he needs to improve significantly may need to understand he has and always has had that knack of being in the right place at the right time, but he has added finishing to that since January 2018.
He has also been involved in 60% of Huddersfields goals when he's been on the pitch.
He's only played 399 minutes and that works out as a goal every 133 minutes. Not bad really, especially in a struggling side.
Wish him all the best and could see a mid-table side taking a punt on him also.
Spot on. And of course he's just 21 I believe, he's still learning the game and he's looked pretty decent on the Hudds games I've seen. Missed a good chance against Palarse but he was there to miss it.
I think he'll do well at Championship level, which is surely what they bought him for.
Let's use realistic figures... I'll be working at least 30 more years as it stands and earn about £150 a week.
£20k a week is a reasonable average salary for a footballer across 10 years (quite a short career).
I'd rather have 10 years at 20k a week than 30 at £750 a week.
That's £10.4m vs £1.17m
In 2 weeks I'd have out earned my annual salary. Probably will have bought every gadget I wanted and be planning on buying a plot of land to build a house and a new car and a new motorbike...
Once I've wasted say £5m I think I could live off the remainder for the rest of my days. (It'd still be more than I'd earn doing what I do)
Don't forget the taxman will have nearly half of that in tax so you aint got the £5m to spunk
Let's use realistic figures... I'll be working at least 30 more years as it stands and earn about £150 a week.
£20k a week is a reasonable average salary for a footballer across 10 years (quite a short career).
I'd rather have 10 years at 20k a week than 30 at £750 a week.
That's £10.4m vs £1.17m
In 2 weeks I'd have out earned my annual salary. Probably will have bought every gadget I wanted and be planning on buying a plot of land to build a house and a new car and a new motorbike...
Once I've wasted say £5m I think I could live off the remainder for the rest of my days. (It'd still be more than I'd earn doing what I do)
Don't forget the taxman will have nearly half of that in tax so you aint got the £5m to spunk
I make you right. Let's say the taxman gets 50% I'd still have increased my earnings 5 times but cut my forced working time from 30 years to 10.
I'd take that still and even If i'm allowed to waste £1m that'll do.
I suppose you don’t need to work or need the money? You constantly write like players owe you personally and that how dare they look after their own interests. You are very naive to think a player should hang around Charlton in the hope he gets a deal that gives stability and career protection. Footballers are living on a constant presssure of the next deal. Mortgage- Familly -living. I suggest maybe have a think about that before you keep shooting off this loyalty nonsense. You might want to focus more on the owner, when if the club get promoted,go straight back down because he has not provided any of that loyalty or stability you seem to hold great stall on.
Not to mention that some of those moaning about Grant's loyalty were pretty much ready to sack him based on an accusation when the Ibiza story came out last summer.
I was one of Karlan's biggest critics as he was getting chance after chance and wasting attempt after attempt.
I remember people saying "Once he gets one he'll score more"
Here's how his career has played out so far: 2014/15 Season - P6 G0 A0 (189 Minutes) Plays in the FA CUP Plays 5 Championship games
2015/16 Season - P23 G3 A2 (1119 Minutes) Plays 3 League Cup games - Scores 2 assists 1 Plays 17 Championship games - Scores 1 assists 1 Plays 3 League 2 games for Cambridge 2016/17 Season - P12 G0 A1 (300 Minutes) Plays 8 League One games - Assists 1 Plays 1 EFL Trophy game Plays 3 EFL Cup games 2017/18 Season - P46 G13 A2 (2562 Minutes) Plays 22 League One games - Scores 1 Assists 1 Plays 15 League Two games - Scores 9 Plays 5 EFL Trophy games - Scores 2 Assists 1 Plays 2 EFL Cup games Plays 2 FA Cup games - Scores 1
2017/18 Season - P36 G17 A5 (2784 Minutes) Plays 7 Premier League games - Scores 3 Plays 28 League One games - Scores 14 Assists 5 Plays 1 FA Cup games
Once he scored, his goals dried up and he wasn't performing as well in training hence being dropped when we were relegated. It was in that 16/17 Season that he really struggled to get into the side and was clearly not favoured by the management team. It irritated many of us that he wasn't kicking on and that can have only have been down to himself... And possibly KR's management.
It seemed it was only the threat of having to live in League 2 that kicked his rear into gear.
He certainly has proven this season that his time at Crawley last season wasn't a one off and I can only see him continuing to grow and improve as a player.
Ademola at the moment is at risk of being over-shadowed by Karlan in the goals department as the latter has already scored more
Karlan's issue is the fact that those stats highlight the minutes but how many games were starts - He struggled to begin with for us because he kept being thrown in with 10-min cameos here and there, it just doesnt work if you constantly keep doing that
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I clapped Clarke yesterday for example and think he is a great pro, but Grant done more in his time here and also came through the academy, plus signed for a club higher in the pyramid, not as if it was a sideways step.
My point in regards to his reception, if it’s not as good as Clarke’s was yesterday, then it’s rather embarrassing. Doesn’t have to be a heroes welcome, I’m not suggesting that at all.
However the Clarke comparison is not a fair one as Clarke's departure was down to circumstances arising following a long term injury.
People recognised that and applauded him accordingly as he contributed well during the short period of time he was fit.
In terms of Grant people will have to make their own minds up. I suspect there was pressure from Roland for him to leave irrespective of his (Karlan's) own preferences which distinguishes him from Parker for example.
I will clap Karlan if he returns to The Valley in a FA Cup match in the future. I don't see him returning imminently any other way.
Why only The FA Cup? You do not believe we could go up this season and he could be playing against us in the Championship next season?
And still playing for CAFC
Could quite easily get a few more goals seeing that Huddersfield are relegated and can now play for freedom
Nothing to say that another more secure Premier League team wont make a punt on him (i.e. Bournemouth if they lose Wilson as expected in the summer...)
Norwich, Leeds if promoted, Burnley and Brighton to name just 4 teams that could go for Grant because even though he still has a lot to learn he has pace and can score goals. He's only 21 but has played in all 4 divisions.
Yes he scored a cracking goal a couple of weeks ago, but then Lisbie scored that hattrick against Liverpool and he found his natural level lower down.
Not only do Huddersfield have a pretty good chance of going back up but if he scores a couple more goals by the end of the season then one of the promoted sides might take a punt on him next season.
Goals are the most precious thing in football and people are always looking for goalscorers.
People saying he needs to improve significantly may need to understand he has and always has had that knack of being in the right place at the right time, but he has added finishing to that since January 2018.
He has also been involved in 60% of Huddersfields goals when he's been on the pitch.
He's only played 399 minutes and that works out as a goal every 133 minutes. Not bad really, especially in a struggling side.
Wish him all the best and could see a mid-table side taking a punt on him also.
He'll get a small clap from me if he plays against us, not a Chris Powell reception but I won't be booing him.
Clubs gaining promotion from the Championship might well be looking to strengthen their squads, as might clubs who only just avoided relegation from the Premiership, and he’s just the sort of player with the goalscoring touch they’ll be looking for. I expect they’ll probably pay more than £1.5m.
£20k a week is a reasonable average salary for a footballer across 10 years (quite a short career).
I'd rather have 10 years at 20k a week than 30 at £750 a week.
That's £10.4m vs £1.17m
In 2 weeks I'd have out earned my annual salary. Probably will have bought every gadget I wanted and be planning on buying a plot of land to build a house and a new car and a new motorbike...
Once I've wasted say £5m I think I could live off the remainder for the rest of my days. (It'd still be more than I'd earn doing what I do)
I think he'll do well at Championship level, which is surely what they bought him for.
Scoring rate so far in the Premiership not shabby playing for a shit team.
Happily applaud him him on his return; and when he gets his first full cap for England.
Not particularly anything against his ability but he’d have to do a lot to get anywhere near our current front 5, all of whom are young.
I'd take that still and even If i'm allowed to waste £1m that'll do.
I remember people saying "Once he gets one he'll score more"
Here's how his career has played out so far:
2014/15 Season - P6 G0 A0 (189 Minutes)
Plays in the FA CUP
Plays 5 Championship games
2015/16 Season - P23 G3 A2 (1119 Minutes)
Plays 3 League Cup games - Scores 2 assists 1
Plays 17 Championship games - Scores 1 assists 1
Plays 3 League 2 games for Cambridge
2016/17 Season - P12 G0 A1 (300 Minutes)
Plays 8 League One games - Assists 1
Plays 1 EFL Trophy game
Plays 3 EFL Cup games
2017/18 Season - P46 G13 A2 (2562 Minutes)
Plays 22 League One games - Scores 1 Assists 1
Plays 15 League Two games - Scores 9
Plays 5 EFL Trophy games - Scores 2 Assists 1
Plays 2 EFL Cup games
Plays 2 FA Cup games - Scores 1
2017/18 Season - P36 G17 A5 (2784 Minutes)
Plays 7 Premier League games - Scores 3
Plays 28 League One games - Scores 14 Assists 5
Plays 1 FA Cup games
Once he scored, his goals dried up and he wasn't performing as well in training hence being dropped when we were relegated. It was in that 16/17 Season that he really struggled to get into the side and was clearly not favoured by the management team. It irritated many of us that he wasn't kicking on and that can have only have been down to himself... And possibly KR's management.
It seemed it was only the threat of having to live in League 2 that kicked his rear into gear.
He certainly has proven this season that his time at Crawley last season wasn't a one off and I can only see him continuing to grow and improve as a player.
Karlan's issue is the fact that those stats highlight the minutes but how many games were starts - He struggled to begin with for us because he kept being thrown in with 10-min cameos here and there, it just doesnt work if you constantly keep doing that