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Karlan Grant moves to Huddersfield

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    I suppose he can now say that he's got a relegation on his CV......plus 2 goals at the Olympic stadium. Goes a long way does that... 
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Of course he’ll get stick, but he doesn’t deserve it. We just have some stupid fans 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Yes, a very good reception. He worked his nuts off when he was here, scored some vital goals to allow us to be in this position now.

    People forget that players are human and it’s a short career. People forget that it was the club and Roland that accepted the offer. People forget that he was in his last 6 months of a contract, who was at fault for that, Karlan? I don’t think so. People forget that he guaranteed himself to play at least one level higher than he was here. People forget that he is still very young, spent a lot of his learning here and when an offer came in for him, he didn’t push for a move or force his way out, the club accepted that offer and Grant went. If the club did not accept the offer, he would still be here now.

    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    I suppose he can now say that he's got a relegation on his CV......plus 2 goals at the Olympic stadium. Goes a long way does that... 
    Yes, it means he has scored in the Premier League, more than the vast majority of footballers. It also means he joins a very small list of scoring in the Premier League, Championship, League One, and League Two. I am sure he will get more relegations on his CV as well, considering he also has one at Charlton.

    Why the sarcasm and negativity the whole time? Grant done well for us this season, was thrown in well too young and it hurt his development, but I am certain he will go on and have a decent career.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Sage said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Yes, a very good reception. He worked his nuts off when he was here, scored some vital goals to allow us to be in this position now.

    People forget that players are human and it’s a short career. People forget that it was the club and Roland that accepted the offer. People forget that he was in his last 6 months of a contract, who was at fault for that, Karlan? I don’t think so. People forget that he guaranteed himself to play at least one level higher than he was here. People forget that he is still very young, spent a lot of his learning here and when an offer came in for him, he didn’t push for a move or force his way out, the club accepted that offer and Grant went. If the club did not accept the offer, he would still be here now.

    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.
    You seem to forget he fucked off mid season, when we're in a promotion push.

    I don't care if the move was right for him. It was wrong for Charlton and I'm a Charlton fan, not a Karlan fan.

    I don't hate him for it but I won't be sad if he doesn't get a good reception, it's part and parcel of the game.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Croydon said:
    Sage said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Yes, a very good reception. He worked his nuts off when he was here, scored some vital goals to allow us to be in this position now.

    People forget that players are human and it’s a short career. People forget that it was the club and Roland that accepted the offer. People forget that he was in his last 6 months of a contract, who was at fault for that, Karlan? I don’t think so. People forget that he guaranteed himself to play at least one level higher than he was here. People forget that he is still very young, spent a lot of his learning here and when an offer came in for him, he didn’t push for a move or force his way out, the club accepted that offer and Grant went. If the club did not accept the offer, he would still be here now.

    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.
    You seem to forget he fucked off mid season, when we're in a promotion push.

    I don't care if the move was right for him. It was wrong for Charlton and I'm a Charlton fan, not a Karlan fan.

    I don't hate him for it but I won't be sad if he doesn't get a good reception, it's part and parcel of the game.
    You say it was wrong for Charlton and yes it was, but I think you seem to forget that it was the club that accepted the offer. He didn’t force a move and would have stayed. So he didn’t exactly ’fuck off’ mid season, he was essentially told that he was being sold, and as soon as a player knows the club they’re currently at accepts an offer, especially of a club who are in the highest league in the country, he is going to go. No matter how you dress it up however you want it to be. If the club were not willing to sell him, they wouldn’t have done.

    I am a Charlton fan, not a Karlan Grant fan, but it is about understanding what actually happens and it is about keeping tabs on a player who was here, came through the academy, and done well for us this season. If people aren’t allowed to recognise former players, the game becomes all so boring and narrowed.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Croydon said:
    Sage said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Yes, a very good reception. He worked his nuts off when he was here, scored some vital goals to allow us to be in this position now.

    People forget that players are human and it’s a short career. People forget that it was the club and Roland that accepted the offer. People forget that he was in his last 6 months of a contract, who was at fault for that, Karlan? I don’t think so. People forget that he guaranteed himself to play at least one level higher than he was here. People forget that he is still very young, spent a lot of his learning here and when an offer came in for him, he didn’t push for a move or force his way out, the club accepted that offer and Grant went. If the club did not accept the offer, he would still be here now.

    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.
    You seem to forget he fucked off mid season, when we're in a promotion push.

    I don't care if the move was right for him. It was wrong for Charlton and I'm a Charlton fan, not a Karlan fan.

    I don't hate him for it but I won't be sad if he doesn't get a good reception, it's part and parcel of the game.
    I doubt that he will be bothered what reception he gets.

    As a Club, we deemed him surplus to requirements last season and also failed to have him locked into a longer term contract.

    It's also rather ironic that, had he come back from Crawley, failed to score for us this season and been released for nothing in the January window to a fellow League 1 team like Wimbledon, he probably would have been given a far more sympathetic reception upon his return to the Valley. 

    For the most part loyalty has gone out of the game - from player to Club and vice versa. How else would one explain that Grant was one of the last three players left from the 41 that played for us three seasons ago - one of the others (Solly) would have left too had he been able to pass a medical and the other (Bauer) will be gone at the end of the season too.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    Sage said:
    Croydon said:
    Sage said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Yes, a very good reception. He worked his nuts off when he was here, scored some vital goals to allow us to be in this position now.

    People forget that players are human and it’s a short career. People forget that it was the club and Roland that accepted the offer. People forget that he was in his last 6 months of a contract, who was at fault for that, Karlan? I don’t think so. People forget that he guaranteed himself to play at least one level higher than he was here. People forget that he is still very young, spent a lot of his learning here and when an offer came in for him, he didn’t push for a move or force his way out, the club accepted that offer and Grant went. If the club did not accept the offer, he would still be here now.

    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.
    You seem to forget he fucked off mid season, when we're in a promotion push.

    I don't care if the move was right for him. It was wrong for Charlton and I'm a Charlton fan, not a Karlan fan.

    I don't hate him for it but I won't be sad if he doesn't get a good reception, it's part and parcel of the game.
    You say it was wrong for Charlton and yes it was, but I think you seem to forget that it was the club that accepted the offer. He didn’t force a move and would have stayed. So he didn’t exactly ’fuck off’ mid season, he was essentially told that he was being sold, and as soon as a player knows the club they’re currently at accepts an offer, especially of a club who are in the highest league in the country, he is going to go. No matter how you dress it up however you want it to be. If the club were not willing to sell him, they wouldn’t have done.

    I am a Charlton fan, not a Karlan Grant fan, but it is about understanding what actually happens and it is about keeping tabs on a player who was here, came through the academy, and done well for us this season. If people aren’t allowed to recognise former players, the game becomes all so boring and narrowed.
    He could have said no & left in the summer. Playing Championship football next season anyway. Excuse me if I don't fawn all over him when he makes a return to the Valley one day. 

    And do you really think that Huddersfield just picked up the phone one day & called RD to see if he would take £1.5m  ??  I bet before January the Huddersfield manager had never even hear of Grant (had only just started playing him the other week). You don't think that maybe his agent was on the phone to all & sundry once Jan 1st came around & that maybe Grant himself had a hand in it  ??
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,142
    I don't get these short career comments. I would rather have 15 years at 50k a week that 40 at 1k a week any day.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Let's face it, if Grant had been banged up after the Ibiza incident,  would any of us really have been heartbroken at the time? Obviously we'd miss the extra player,  but it literally has only been the last 6 months in a Charlton shirt where he's looked decent.

    I've no problem with him wanting to better himself, and I certainly won't be booing him, but I can't see myself wanting to applaud him if we are in the Championship next season any more than I'd want to applaud most of the other former players who've played for us recently. 
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  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Sage said:
    I suppose he can now say that he's got a relegation on his CV......plus 2 goals at the Olympic stadium. Goes a long way does that... 
    Yes, it means he has scored in the Premier League, more than the vast majority of footballers. It also means he joins a very small list of scoring in the Premier League, Championship, League One, and League Two. I am sure he will get more relegations on his CV as well, considering he also has one at Charlton.

    Why the sarcasm and negativity the whole time? Grant done well for us this season, was thrown in well too young and it hurt his development, but I am certain he will go on and have a decent career.
    He must be one of the youngest people to have scored in all 4 divisions, surely?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Hardly a Charlton legend was he.
    Half a decent season after all that went on before. 
    It's Charlton I love not kag.
    Genuinely could not care less how he does now he has left us.
    I will not boo him if and when he plays against us as I'm not that sad .but equally I shall not be standing up and clapping him either.
    He's gone and that's it.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    edited March 2019
    Sage said:
    Croydon said:
    Sage said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Sage said:
    Just like to say, haven’t read a single comment on this thread since page 4, but since Grant went out on loan to Crawley last season, he has scored 26 in 50.

    Shame he couldn’t scored again Palace today to keep that relegation away from Huddersfield for another week but let’s hope he will be back at The Valley next season playing against us in the Championship, so long as he doesn’t score, he ought to get a very good reception the next time he is here.
    Very good reception? Guy left us after half a good season.

    Whilst I don’t particularly blame him, I can see him getting a bit of stick when he comes back.
    Yes, a very good reception. He worked his nuts off when he was here, scored some vital goals to allow us to be in this position now.

    People forget that players are human and it’s a short career. People forget that it was the club and Roland that accepted the offer. People forget that he was in his last 6 months of a contract, who was at fault for that, Karlan? I don’t think so. People forget that he guaranteed himself to play at least one level higher than he was here. People forget that he is still very young, spent a lot of his learning here and when an offer came in for him, he didn’t push for a move or force his way out, the club accepted that offer and Grant went. If the club did not accept the offer, he would still be here now.

    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.
    You seem to forget he fucked off mid season, when we're in a promotion push.

    I don't care if the move was right for him. It was wrong for Charlton and I'm a Charlton fan, not a Karlan fan.

    I don't hate him for it but I won't be sad if he doesn't get a good reception, it's part and parcel of the game.
    You say it was wrong for Charlton and yes it was, but I think you seem to forget that it was the club that accepted the offer. He didn’t force a move and would have stayed. So he didn’t exactly ’fuck off’ mid season, he was essentially told that he was being sold, and as soon as a player knows the club they’re currently at accepts an offer, especially of a club who are in the highest league in the country, he is going to go. No matter how you dress it up however you want it to be. If the club were not willing to sell him, they wouldn’t have done.

    I am a Charlton fan, not a Karlan Grant fan, but it is about understanding what actually happens and it is about keeping tabs on a player who was here, came through the academy, and done well for us this season. If people aren’t allowed to recognise former players, the game becomes all so boring and narrowed.
    He could have said no & left in the summer. Playing Championship football next season anyway. Excuse me if I don't fawn all over him when he makes a return to the Valley one day. 

    And do you really think that Huddersfield just picked up the phone one day & called RD to see if he would take £1.5m  ??  I bet before January the Huddersfield manager had never even hear of Grant (had only just started playing him the other week). You don't think that maybe his agent was on the phone to all & sundry once Jan 1st came around & that maybe Grant himself had a hand in it  ??
    We could have said "you can't go 'til the summer" but didn't. Why were we stupid enough to leave him with just 6 months left on his contract anyway? 

    We didn't think he was worth more than that. And Huddersfield did. Is that his fault or ours?

    And an agent's job, in any walk of life, is to get the best deal for his client. If he didn't look for his client's next job with less than 6 months left on a contract he wouldn't be doing his job would he?

    I won't be clapping Grant. But I won't be blaming him either.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Of course he should have stayed in our dream Charlton world
    but the dream Charlton world doesn’t exist
    and we are in the wankiest footballing times in our history since we arrived in league football and got our first promotion out of the third tier .

    so no one in their sane mind if in the same position as Karlan would have stayed at the rudderless freak show that is Charlton Athletic 
  • Don't blame any player for leaving our club given the mess its in - its a job.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I don't get these short career comments. I would rather have 15 years at 50k a week that 40 at 1k a week any day.
    Short career meaning players have to take chances when they come. He stops scoring or gets a bad injury and the chance to play in the Prem might not be there in the summer.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Scoham said:w
    I don't get these short career comments. I would rather have 15 years at 50k a week that 40 at 1k a week any day.
    Short career meaning players have to take chances when they come. He stops scoring or gets a bad injury and the chance to play in the Prem might not be there in the summer.
    His chance to play in the prem definitely will not be there come the summer. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Scoham said:
    Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
    On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.

    Source: Steve Gallen
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    It's all about the money. Just ask Matt Kuchar.
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  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Scoham said:
    Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
    On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.

    Source: Steve Gallen
    This
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    It's all about the money. Just ask Matt Kuchar.
    Luckily for you or you’d be employed elsewhere  ! 
  • It's all about the money. Just ask Matt Kuchar.
    I suppose you don’t need to work or need the money? You constantly write like players owe you personally and that how dare they look after their own interests. You are very naive to think a player should hang around Charlton in the hope he gets a deal that gives stability and career protection.  Footballers are living on a constant presssure of the next deal. Mortgage- Familly -living. I suggest maybe have a think about that before you keep shooting off this loyalty nonsense. You might want to focus more on the owner, when if the club get promoted,go straight back down because he has not provided any of that loyalty or stability you seem to hold great stall on. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    It's all about the money. Just ask Matt Kuchar.
    I suppose you don’t need to work or need the money? You constantly write like players owe you personally and that how dare they look after their own interests. You are very naive to think a player should hang around Charlton in the hope he gets a deal that gives stability and career protection.  Footballers are living on a constant presssure of the next deal. Mortgage- Familly -living. I suggest maybe have a think about that before you keep shooting off this loyalty nonsense. You might want to focus more on the owner, when if the club get promoted,go straight back down because he has not provided any of that loyalty or stability you seem to hold great stall on. 
    Well said

    Talk about loyalty to all the U23s and U18s who've just been released or all the first teamers without a contract for next season.

    Lots of the same people slagging off Grant now for being a greedy snake were saying last season he was shit and would be playing non-league soon.

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    It’s not like he quit or refused to play. 

    Charlton sold him - end of. 


    If they they didn’t want him to go they wouldn’t have sold him. 

    If he had had a bang average season no one would be crying as the club tossed him on the scrap heap at end of contract in summer. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229


    It would be rather embarrassing if he was to come back in future and get a poor reception.

    Remember Oxford and Ricky Holmes when some Ram started the booing and the sheep joined in.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Scoham said:
    Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
    On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.

    Source: Steve Gallen
    As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.

    Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.

    He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Scoham said:w
    I don't get these short career comments. I would rather have 15 years at 50k a week that 40 at 1k a week any day.
    Short career meaning players have to take chances when they come. He stops scoring or gets a bad injury and the chance to play in the Prem might not be there in the summer.
    His chance to play in the prem definitely will not be there come the summer. 
    Wouldn't be surprised to see a West Ham/Everton type come in for him if he tucks a few more goals away between now and end of the season.

    Young, English goalscorers are always in demand.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,014
    Thanks to Roland, we can now say we have seen a Championship star of the future. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Sage said:
    Scoham said:
    Exactly and even if we go up he’ll be earning more and at a more ambitious club. Yet apparently he’s greedy and selfish for making a move the majority of League 1 players would have also made.
    On six times what he was at Charlton and in tears over leaving.

    Source: Steve Gallen
    As both Henry's have said, Irving and RedHenry, this.

    Would be an idea for people not to go spouting nonsense about something they clearly have no knowledge of.

    He left us because we accepted an offer and he went to better his life, his career, and fulfil his dreams at a more stable club, even if they have just been relegated from the Premier League. Like I have said before, it is not like he forced a move out and didn't care, because he did care and I would bet he would be at Wembley supporting the boys in May if we get there.
    I agree with everything you're saying, and I completely understand why he went. I'm just saying I won't be giving him a heroes welcome on his return.