I know people dont belive me, but Honestly Micks cousin is called Barrie Taylor who himself is a barnsley lad and teaches at The Priory School in Spalding
Not going to hold something he said at 15 or 16 against him. To be honest i think most people on this forum will have either said or done something that would be blown out of all proportion if they were in the public eye.
I'd really love to believe this was as hard for Declan Rice as he is making out. Indeed if I had been lucky enough, (good enough) to have had to make the same decision it would have only been tough had both countries come calling at the same time. I am as fiercely proud of my birth right, as I am of my family heritage. So for me, I guess it would come down to whoever wanted me first and then that would be it.
As it is, this seems quite straight forward to me. When he wasn't deemed good enough, (either by himself or his peers) for his country of birth, he was quite happy to wear the green shirt of his ancestors on the assumption I presume that this would be the only country option he would get.
But then to his credit, he improved, considerably as it turns out, or at least enough to put himself on the radar of the English FA who recognised that he had only played three friendlies for the Republic and therefore could still qualify for England.
The whole O'Neill / Keane saga on top of the FA's interest may well have tipped Rice over the edge but it has been reported that after McCarthy took over Rice had agreed to commit himself to Ireland as recently as December, only for the then FA Technical Director, Dan Ashworth to make a concerted effort to change his mind, which obviously worked.
I wish the young man the very best, he has clearly realised that the current Eire squad is simply not good enough to qualify for any major tournaments for the next few years and is not prepared to wait, although he could have been part of a generation of very promising young players coming through.
As it is, the absence of Declan Rice in the Ireland team will not be the sole reason that nothing much will happen for the Boys In Green in the next few years and his inclusion would also not have heralded a new dawn just yet.
Equally the addition to the England side of Declan Rice will not transform the Three Lions into the footballing stratosphere. he's a handy player and will benefit any team and I genuinely wish him well because I have the luxury of supporting both countries.
My only gripe is the utter b****cks that needs to come out with the decision to try to make it more palatable.
It's good to hear about people's pride in dual nationality/mixed heritage. Do you contribute to both societies ?
Not going to hold something he said at 15 or 16 against him. To be honest i think most people on this forum will have either said or done something that would be blown out of all proportion if they were in the public eye.
I’ve said this before but I read an interview once with Frank Lampard and when asked what one piece of advice he would give young players in the academy what did he say? Practice hard? Always give 100%? Train properly? Work hard? Etc etc. No, his one piece of advice was ‘do not use social media’. Wise words. One’s players like Rice should listen to.
Not going to hold something he said at 15 or 16 against him. To be honest i think most people on this forum will have either said or done something that would be blown out of all proportion if they were in the public eye.
I’ve said this before but I read an interview once with Frank Lampard and when asked what one piece of advice he would give young players in the academy what did he say? Practice hard? Always give 100%? Train properly? Work hard? Etc etc. No, his one piece of advice was ‘do not use social media’. Wise words. One’s players like Rice should listen to.
The same Lampard who along with some other team mates was once drunkenly mocking American tourists about 9/11. Most people have said or done something they regret.
I’m getting a bit bored of these ‘historic tweets’ cropping up to be honest. Who the hell are the sad bastards willing to trawl through years of a person’s social media history, desperate to find something to assassinate their character with? Get a life.
It’s not a good one clearly but that’s nothing more than a stupid joke that I’ve seen a million and one times across social media.
A stupid joke?
Showing support for a terrorist organisation responsible for the murders of 100’s of innocent men, women, children & British forces, uneducated, crass, and moronic, yes, a joke, no
I’m getting a bit bored of these ‘historic tweets’ cropping up to be honest. Who the hell are the sad bastards willing to trawl through years of a person’s social media history, desperate to find something to assassinate their character with? Get a life.
I think declan rice and shamima begum are as bad as each other - well that's what a lot of these twatter loons come out with.
does not suprise me though that some low life sad journalists have nothing better to do than to go back through someones twitter history and find a flippant comment to then cause a scene out of.
also with reference to the ira a lot of irish will sing ooh ahh up the ra at weddings/football matches etc but i genuinely do not believe that most support the terrorists, i imagine this is the same as declan of course as @DA9 says its crass and no need for it.
if you replaced the ira with isis for example im sure the outrage would be a lot different.
What would the reaction be if it had been an extreme racist tweet? Genuine question here, would the “only 15 years old”, “disgrace people trawling back to find old tweets” etc etc be the reaction? My guess is.....would it f**k.
You don’t post that kind of nonsense unless there is some feeling behind it.
What would the reaction be if it had been an extreme racist tweet? Genuine question here, would the “only 15 years old”, “disgrace people trawling back to find old tweets” etc etc be the reaction? My guess is.....would it f**k.
You don’t post that kind of nonsense unless there is some feeling behind it.
I honestly don't think half these kids understand the full history behind 'Up to RA', especially ones from London trying to be edgy. Massive difference to an extreme racist tweet.
I’m not so sure Gary, he followed the phrase with “wait till we play England”. That suggests to me that he did know the history well enough.
Just grates on me how someone expressing support (even if they don’t genuinely/literally support them) for a terrorist organisation that murdered so many people is excused by most. Yet even a racist joke (let alone a racist insult) would have people calling for his head.
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Oh sorry, thought you were starting the song.
In what way do you do it?
Showing support for a terrorist organisation responsible for the murders of 100’s of innocent men, women, children & British forces, uneducated, crass, and moronic, yes, a joke, no
does not suprise me though that some low life sad journalists have nothing better to do than to go back through someones twitter history and find a flippant comment to then cause a scene out of.
also with reference to the ira a lot of irish will sing ooh ahh up the ra at weddings/football matches etc but i genuinely do not believe that most support the terrorists, i imagine this is the same as declan of course as @DA9 says its crass and no need for it.
if you replaced the ira with isis for example im sure the outrage would be a lot different.
Only difference is instead of saying it he put it on Twitter for some sadstack to go trawling for.
You don’t post that kind of nonsense unless there is some feeling behind it.
Just grates on me how someone expressing support (even if they don’t genuinely/literally support them) for a terrorist organisation that murdered so many people is excused by most. Yet even a racist joke (let alone a racist insult) would have people calling for his head.