I think he is a 'Charlton' type of player and would love to keep him; even if it is as an impact 'super-sub' as we saw on Sunday. Unfortunately, it sounds like he has greater aspirations that being a bit-part player would not support so I think he is highly likely to be at somewhere like Swansea next year. As others have said, the biggest weakness in signing up the players we want is the ridiculous situation in which one of our most successful managers in history is out of contract and, therefore, is unable to influence who stays and who drifts away.
I think he is a 'Charlton' type of player and would love to keep him; even if it is as an impact 'super-sub' as we saw on Sunday. Unfortunately, it sounds like he has greater aspirations that being a bit-part player would not support so I think he is highly likely to be at somewhere like Swansea next year. As others have said, the biggest weakness in signing up the players we want is the ridiculous situation in which one of our most successful managers in history is out of contract and, therefore, is unable to influence who stays and who drifts away.
If Williams can only get on the bench @ Charlton though surely he's going to struggle all the more at a higher Championship side
No brainer. Turned the game on its head on Sunday. No way all of the Sunderland back 4 would have stayed on the pitch if the game had gone into extra time. He'd got most of them yellow carded in the time he'd been on already!
If you watch the Sky highlights package, when interviewed at the end, he is clearly very emotional. It obviously meant a lot to him. Which, to me, shows he's happy here.
Yes, there are injury concerns, and he will have to be nurtured. But, when he came to us he hadn't been playing, and an unfit player tends to get niggles. Give him a bit of a gentle pre-season, make sure he's 100% by the time the season starts, wind him up, and let him go!
Oh, and if this season teaches us ANYTHING it's the squad that gets you through the season, not the first 11. Having Jonny even on the bench, to throw him on with 20 minutes to go, against tiring defenders, is something to look forward to!
I think he is a 'Charlton' type of player and would love to keep him; even if it is as an impact 'super-sub' as we saw on Sunday. Unfortunately, it sounds like he has greater aspirations that being a bit-part player would not support so I think he is highly likely to be at somewhere like Swansea next year. As others have said, the biggest weakness in signing up the players we want is the ridiculous situation in which one of our most successful managers in history is out of contract and, therefore, is unable to influence who stays and who drifts away.
If Williams can only get on the bench @ Charlton though surely he's going to struggle all the more at a higher Championship side
I agree but I think he hopes (expects?) to play a bigger part in a team than we think he will if he stays at Charlton. I think he's wrong and that he would be better placed staying with us albeit (potentially) sacrificing any hopes of playing for Wales again unless he can hold down a regular place in our starting line-up. Ambition and desire are hard things to let go.
Think he’s an absolutely fantastic player. Premier league level imo, a full pre season behind him, stays fit and hits some form he could be more than a game changer next season.
like a lot of players and our management team we desperately need to sign up.
Bowyer has been quoted as saying that Williams is almost the complete player. Now to me that sounds like Bowyer would sign him. Of course it will depend on finances but I think there’s a good chance of this one.
Keeper for me (if poss). I also don't think he will get chopped as much in the Championship than L1, where it's deemed slightly more acceptable to keep hacking the same player.
i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on
How strange... I’m 100% sure he isn't staying, I know that for a fact. We can’t afford to give him the wages he wants. Unless we get new owners soon he won’t be signing. That’s coming from one of Jonny’s best mates
told you guys, Jonny wasn’t prepared to lower his wage demands. Staggering to think anyone out there is willing to offer him 10k a week
i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on
How strange... I’m 100% sure he isn't staying, I know that for a fact. We can’t afford to give him the wages he wants. Unless we get new owners soon he won’t be signing. That’s coming from one of Jonny’s best mates
told you guys, Jonny wasn’t prepared to lower his wage demands. Staggering to think anyone out there is willing to offer him 10k a week
I don’t think you’re right. He wants to stay but is waiting to see what’s happens in the next couple of weeks, just like Bowyer and everyone else
Been let go but bowyer said half open. Looks like a case is we won’t pay what he is on now so he will go away consider his options and we will stay in touch
i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on
Yup, he’s keen to stay.
Lol listen I'm as gutted as you. I cant upload the screenshot but my pal who told me works for the agency Jonny is signed with, his a PLA and was in the directors box at Wembley. This was his exact reply to me asking if he was off;
"Was with his agent today at Wembley and it’s very likely he signs for charlton"
Been let go but bowyer said half open. Looks like a case is we won’t pay what he is on now so he will go away consider his options and we will stay in touch
i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on
How strange... I’m 100% sure he isn't staying, I know that for a fact. We can’t afford to give him the wages he wants. Unless we get new owners soon he won’t be signing. That’s coming from one of Jonny’s best mates
told you guys, Jonny wasn’t prepared to lower his wage demands. Staggering to think anyone out there is willing to offer him 10k a week
His last contract extension was signed in June 2017 as a 23yr old Premier League player and full international Though he hasn’t pulled up trees in his career so far, I’m fairly sure that contract would have been for much more than 10k a week. The average Palace lsalary in 17/18 was £56k a week, with an annual wage bill of £117m
Been let go but bowyer said half open. Looks like a case is we won’t pay what he is on now so he will go away consider his options and we will stay in touch
Bowyer has been quoted as saying that Williams is almost the complete player. Now to me that sounds like Bowyer would sign him. Of course it will depend on finances but I think there’s a good chance of this one.
Bowyer selected Pratley and Parker ahead of Williams, hardly a ringing endorsement. Sunderland was probably his best game for us; against Donny nothing came off for him, and his stats for scoring and assists are practically non-existent, so we won't be pushing the boat out for him.
Bowyer has been quoted as saying that Williams is almost the complete player. Now to me that sounds like Bowyer would sign him. Of course it will depend on finances but I think there’s a good chance of this one.
Bowyer selected Pratley and Parker ahead of Williams, hardly a ringing endorsement. Sunderland was probably his best game for us; against Donny nothing came off for him, and his stats for scoring and assists are practically non-existent, so we won't be pushing the boat out for him.
IMO that doesn't mean that Bowyer rates Pratley and Parker above Williams.
Bowyer wanted only one thing: to win the game at Wembley.
He needed to match up the physicality of the Sunderland midfield with Pratley, a tough experienced old head, warrior and leader on the pitch.
Parker was picked because his positioning, movement and graft was the best we had as foil to bring the best out of Lyle Taylor.
Williams was held back to provide what he does best when it was going to be most needed - unpicking tight defences, carrying the ball at pace towards tiring defenders and winning corners and free kicks in attacking positions.
Bowyer has been quoted as saying that Williams is almost the complete player. Now to me that sounds like Bowyer would sign him. Of course it will depend on finances but I think there’s a good chance of this one.
Bowyer selected Pratley and Parker ahead of Williams, hardly a ringing endorsement. Sunderland was probably his best game for us; against Donny nothing came off for him, and his stats for scoring and assists are practically non-existent, so we won't be pushing the boat out for him.
IMO that doesn't mean that Bowyer rates Pratley and Parker above Williams.
Bowyer wanted only one thing: to win the game at Wembley.
He needed to match up the physicality of the Sunderland midfield with Pratley, a tough experienced old head, warrior and leader on the pitch.
Parker was picked because his positioning, movement and graft was the best we had as foil to bring the best out of Lyle Taylor.
Williams was held back to provide what he does best when it was going to be most needed - unpicking tight defences, carrying the ball at pace towards tiring defenders and winning corners and free kicks in attacking positions.
And so it proved.
Agreed. Pratley was hugely instrumental in us winning that game. For a period he was the only one who seemed to not be shaken by the calamitous own goal. He got right on the front foot andled by example by putting himself about to help us get a foothold in the game. His experience was absolutely game changing for us.
He doesn't catch the eye in the way someone like Williams can, but his contribution to the playoff semi second leg and the final were absolutely invaluable in steadying the ship when we were in losing positions and seeing us over the line.
He deserves a lot more credit for his contribution than he's been getting.
Been let go but bowyer said half open. Looks like a case is we won’t pay what he is on now so he will go away consider his options and we will stay in touch
We are letting a lot of people go,that saves plenty of money.Surely we can offer Williams a decent contract,I think he could team up with Jfc in the Championship and be a vital part of next season.
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If you watch the Sky highlights package, when interviewed at the end, he is clearly very emotional. It obviously meant a lot to him. Which, to me, shows he's happy here.
Yes, there are injury concerns, and he will have to be nurtured. But, when he came to us he hadn't been playing, and an unfit player tends to get niggles. Give him a bit of a gentle pre-season, make sure he's 100% by the time the season starts, wind him up, and let him go!
Oh, and if this season teaches us ANYTHING it's the squad that gets you through the season, not the first 11. Having Jonny even on the bench, to throw him on with 20 minutes to go, against tiring defenders, is something to look forward to!
I agree but I think he hopes (expects?) to play a bigger part in a team than we think he will if he stays at Charlton. I think he's wrong and that he would be better placed staying with us albeit (potentially) sacrificing any hopes of playing for Wales again unless he can hold down a regular place in our starting line-up. Ambition and desire are hard things to let go.
like a lot of players and our management team we desperately need to sign up.
That proves to him that should he re-sign for Charlton, it won't hinder his international career.
"Was with his agent today at Wembley and it’s very likely he signs for charlton"
Bowyer selected Pratley and Parker ahead of Williams, hardly a ringing endorsement. Sunderland was probably his best game for us; against Donny nothing came off for him, and his stats for scoring and assists are practically non-existent, so we won't be pushing the boat out for him.
Bowyer wanted only one thing: to win the game at Wembley.
He needed to match up the physicality of the Sunderland midfield with Pratley, a tough experienced old head, warrior and leader on the pitch.
Parker was picked because his positioning, movement and graft was the best we had as foil to bring the best out of Lyle Taylor.
Williams was held back to provide what he does best when it was going to be most needed - unpicking tight defences, carrying the ball at pace towards tiring defenders and winning corners and free kicks in attacking positions.
And so it proved.
It's a shame that he can almost without doubt earn elsewhere double what he can at Charlton.
It's a short career. You can't blame him.
But I reckon he'd sign here like a shot, if it weren't four our tiny budget.
He felt wanted here.
There's a now a part of his heart that is forever Charlton. But don't tell the Nigels.