New kit and sponsor (P108, 2021 new 3rd kit)

ross1 · July 2019

Tried to put this on yesterday but their system was down, I have not seen it anywhere else

https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5d387ed69fd9a/pacific-support-services-named-as-new-dugout-sponsor-for-the-201920-season

cafcwill · July 2019

That red kit looks gorgeous on the telly.

Because the Hummel logo and sponsor is black, it can hardly be seen on the screen

Looks like we're playing in a retro kit and is magnificent

If they did a long sleeved version I'd get one today

Ross · July 2019

Not only would the white sponsor look better, you’d think Children With Cancer would want their name in white. You can barely see it here, so will it get the exposure on TV?

Sage · July 2019

Guessing there is no way of changing the home kit for the sponsor and the Hummel part itself to be in white? Far too much cost and hassle. But it’s a shame cause it definitely would’ve been better.

Valley11 · July 2019

I wonder if the decision to make the logo black was so the kit looked like the one it’s copying, with no sponsor?
You can’t see it at all on these pics
Looks like we’re sponsorless

Chris_from_Sidcup · July 2019

Sage said:

Guessing there is no way of changing the home kit for the sponsor and the Hummel part itself to be in white? Far too much cost and hassle. But it’s a shame cause it definitely would’ve been better.

Would love to know the thought process behind having a black Hummel logo and sponsor instead of a white one.

Sage · July 2019

Not kit related exactly but I have a big problem with the picture above of Aneke.

Firstly, his shin pads are tiny. I know they're all getting like it and for some reason they seem to be getting smaller each year, but they're too small.

Secondly, they're closer to his knee than his ankle. If he was to get slide challenged and caught just above the ankle, he is far more likely to end up with a serious injury such as a leg break than if he was to get caught nearer his knee.

Compare his shin pads to John McGinn's.

It might be silly to some, but with my background it winds me up seeing this. It's small details like this that could cost us and our players massively. As I said, it might be petty to some, but I am actually rather disappointed.

sam3110 · July 2019

Yeah, then look where Grealish's are, can barely see them. Also, the size of Aneke's thigh muscles in that picture, they're insane!

Sage · July 2019

sam3110 said:

Yeah, then look where Grealish's are, can barely see them. Also, the size of Aneke's thigh muscles in that picture, they're insane!

Exactly, they're protecting his ankle/lower tib-fib than closer to his knee, the weakest part of the leg.

Your point about Aneke's quadriceps is exactly what I said in the thread about Lewis Page's recent injury... "Hamstrings are a real pain and even with constant research and studies, they keep coming up in football. The only thing I can genuinely think is that players don’t have the correct ratio of strength between their hamstrings and their quadriceps. Hamstrings need to be stronger, but because they run so much, the game has got quicker, and we generate power on the ball through the quadriceps, it wouldn’t surprise me hugely if the average footballer doesn’t have the ratio between the two muscle groups that they need. Consequently, hamstrings are injured more often."

Aneke came off yesterday after going down as if he had been shot. He felt his hamstrings again. Now are you going to tell me that Aneke's hamstrings are stronger than his quadriceps? No chance.

Off_it · July 2019

I watched the second half on a stream yesterday and was convinced that we didnt have a sponsor on the shirt. Couldnt see one.

Off_it · July 2019

Stu_of_Kunming said:

StigThundercock said:

really like the look of that
£45 is daylight effing robbery for a polyester t-shirt/advertising hoarding
streets better than the ham-fisted collage 1st kit
will look smart on the dummies in the shop window
the less said about the ambulant dummies purchasing before the twunt is gone, the better
not a penny more, no concessions, no excuses
I'll give the protest shirt a rest for Solly's testimonial and dig out a pre-twunt red one

The shop is outsourced, the twunt doesnt get the money.

You seriously believe the club doesnt get any money linked to the sale of replica shirts? So what, you think they just give away the rights to sell the shirts for free?

cafc999 · July 2019

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Sage said:

Guessing there is no way of changing the home kit for the sponsor and the Hummel part itself to be in white? Far too much cost and hassle. But it’s a shame cause it definitely would’ve been better.

Would love to know the thought process behind having a black Hummel logo and sponsor instead of a white one.

Agreed. They have to be the same colour so IMHO white would have been the natural choice. Black makes both the hummel logo and shirt sponsor invisible.

LargeAddick · July 2019

Off_it said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

StigThundercock said:

really like the look of that
£45 is daylight effing robbery for a polyester t-shirt/advertising hoarding
streets better than the ham-fisted collage 1st kit
will look smart on the dummies in the shop window
the less said about the ambulant dummies purchasing before the twunt is gone, the better
not a penny more, no concessions, no excuses
I'll give the protest shirt a rest for Solly's testimonial and dig out a pre-twunt red one

The shop is outsourced, the twunt doesnt get the money.

You seriously believe the club doesnt get any money linked to the sale of replica shirts? So what, you think they just give away the rights to sell the shirts for free?

Do they not get an upfront fee so its te same if the shop sell one shirt or 10,000 shirts?

Valley27000 · July 2019

Bad the away shirt and 3rd shirt not in the club shop yet.Millwall got the away shirt out already.

Chris_from_Sidcup · July 2019

Valley27000 said:

Bad the away shirt and 3rd shirt not in the club shop yet.Millwall got the away shirt out already.

Have you seen it though? They can't have shifted too many.

Off_it · July 2019

LargeAddick said:

Off_it said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

StigThundercock said:

really like the look of that
£45 is daylight effing robbery for a polyester t-shirt/advertising hoarding
streets better than the ham-fisted collage 1st kit
will look smart on the dummies in the shop window
the less said about the ambulant dummies purchasing before the twunt is gone, the better
not a penny more, no concessions, no excuses
I'll give the protest shirt a rest for Solly's testimonial and dig out a pre-twunt red one

The shop is outsourced, the twunt doesnt get the money.

You seriously believe the club doesnt get any money linked to the sale of replica shirts? So what, you think they just give away the rights to sell the shirts for free?

Do they not get an upfront fee so its te same if the shop sell one shirt or 10,000 shirts?

I wouldn't know for sure as I obviously havent seen the deal and these can be commercially structured in a number of ways.

But I wouldve thought it would be reasonable to assume there was an upfront fee plus a sliding scale of additional payments due based on certain parameters being met. One of those could be the number of shirts sold, or another could be the turnover and/or profit of sales in general.

But either way the number of shirts sold will almkst certainly have a direct bearing on the amount of income the club (and therefore RD) generates. Even if no additional cash is paid this all adds to the "value" of the club.

Therefore shirt sales = money to RD (or reduced losses for RD). To suggest there is no link is fanciful.

Chris_from_Sidcup · August 2019

I know it's been said plenty of times but watching the game, it really does look like we don't have a sponsor.

NapaAddick · August 2019

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

I know it's been said plenty of times but watching the game, it really does look like we don't have a sponsor.

That sounds like a good thing.

MrOneLung · August 2019

Couldn’t see sponsor on tv footage

jac52 · August 2019

Are there separate women's kits? Just has adult and junior on the website.

Charltonparklane · August 2019

Coventry win kit of the season for me, looks an absolute quality piece of work seeing it on the TV.

Hummel as well.

ForeverAddickted · August 2019

Dunno... Cambridge away kit (also by Hummel) surely challenges?

Image: https://i2-prod.cambridge-news.co.uk/sport/article16695725.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/48446368347_e785ac9ab1_o.jpg

Charltonparklane · August 2019

ForeverAddickted said:

Dunno... Cambridge away kit (also by Hummel) surely challenges?

It's nice but honestly a no for me, the cov kit is a rehash of possibly the greatest kit ever.
Denmark 86 (also covs kit in 87 FA Cup)

I know we are generally bold red but you don't know how much as a kid I wanted the Charlton badge on that Denmark kit.

I'd have loved to have had the red version of the cov kit as a one off this season and genuinely thought it a possibility when I see the cov kit come out before ours.

ForeverAddickted · August 2019

Charltonparklane said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Dunno... Cambridge away kit (also by Hummel) surely challenges?

It's nice but honestly a no for me, the cov kit is a rehash of possibly the greatest kit ever.
Denmark 86 (also covs kit in 87 FA Cup)

I know we are generally bold red but you don't know how much as a kid I wanted the Charlton badge on that Denmark kit.

I'd have loved to have had the red version of the cov kit as a one off this season and genuinely thought it a possibility when I see the cov kit come out before ours.

Yeah thats true... Didnt ever think of the Coventry kit as that historic Denmark one - Just love that Cambridge design, completely unique whilst referencing a historic kit of theirs