Bit like labour and their brexit fence! CARD know only direct action at the Valley will make any difference but also know loads of fans now support things as they are, partly because of time and new fans, and partly because of the support the team not the regime oxymoron.
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
because more press coverage, he loses money, EFL take more notice etc.
One question would not Shaun Harvey the ELF chairman dude accused by Douchebag of “manipulation of the voting member” have every right to sue his dumb Belgium arse?
Like being savaged by a dead sheep. EFL - not fit for purpose.
Very good unifying statement from CARD - just what was needed at this point. It seems to me that at the moment, the Team and the Club have become two very different entities. We all support the Team and most on here want to see a change of ownership of the Club.
The Manager did an amazing job last season to bring fans together to give full support to the Team. People are saying that's because we were winning - but of course that was the case. The Manager's one job is to build a winning Team, and as fans we will get behind and support that. Previous Managers were not able to do that and got the support they deserved.
The Club is a different matter, and for some I can understand that they don't care how it is run. Everyone has a different level of interest in what happens beyond the Team but it's probably fair to say that the fans that post on here are more invested than most.
For me, Bowyer's achievements last season, with the help of his staff, was incredible. Yes, we had some well-paid players, but the lack of a working infrastructure around him must have made it seem like he was running a non-League side at times. The fans definitely made a difference - I don't believe the play-off games would have been won without the support the Team were given. It's not often we say that about Charlton fans, but last season we did make a difference.
Bringing that level of support and passion to protests against the current ownership of the Club will also make a difference in my opinion. I don't expect more than a few hundred to travel to Belgium but I have no doubt that will influence the Owner more than anything else. Targeting his lieutenants is also a good strategy.
The Owner got lucky some years ago by inventing a car gizmo that proved popular. Since then he seems to have confused that luck with being some sort of visionary. He's not a visionary, he's clearly proved himself to be out of his depth with anything else he's tried. Facing up to this failure seems to be the hardest thing for him to accept, and in my opinion is the thing he would most hate his Belgian peers to think about him.
CARD, like the Valley Party before them, have shown how to organise effective, humorous protests that capture the imagination of the press and I'd like to think that one last effort will do the job. It may not, but if it doesn't it will at least be a step on the way to the last effort that does.
The Owner's time is up - he knows it, we know it. He just needs nudging over the line to finally sell up.
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
Maybe because it's the nearest we can get to Murray and Turk
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
Maybe because it's the nearest we can get to Murray and Turk
Need to get at the organ grinder, dividing the fan base helps no one.
Depending on what is done, actions at The Valley may well be reported in the Belgian media as well as UK. Indeed, the Pink Pigs event went global, and was reported in newspapers as far away as South America and the Philippines.
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
Maybe because it's the nearest we can get to Murray and Turk
Need to get at the organ grinder, dividing the fan base helps no one.
Agree we need to get at RD. I'm thinking that many people wont be able to get to Belgium so would want to do something here. Are you thinking that protests at the Valley divide the fan base more than just protesting in Belgium?
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
Maybe because it's the nearest we can get to Murray and Turk
Need to get at the organ grinder, dividing the fan base helps no one.
Agree we need to get at RD. I'm thinking that many people wont be able to get to Belgium so would want to do something here. Are you thinking that protests at the Valley divide the fan base more than just protesting in Belgium?
Obviously any match day protests will divide the fan base. I support some action in principle, but wait to see the proposition before saying I'll join in. Mind you, I'm not usually one to complain and then do nothing, so I'll likely join any action.
Well played CARD, I continue to support your efforts and thank you for taking the time to put this together and any subsequent action as a result. I would be interested in a trip to Belgium if one is planned
If it turns to shit I will definitely consider going to Belgium. I'm not doing any protesting at the valley - utterly pointless and I wouldn't disrespect bowyer and Jackson and what they will be trying to achieve. Chances are, another week of incoming loan signings and a few wins and the last thing on my mind will be protesting. All I care about is what happens on the pitch and the enjoyment of the fans attending home and away. The rest is political nonsense.
As always, the devil will be in the detail and as it stands, no one outside of CARD knows what 'lawful direct action over the coming weeks and months' will actually mean or how impacting that will be.
As always, the devil will be in the detail and as it stands, no one outside of CARD knows what 'lawful direct action over the coming weeks and months' will actually mean or how impacting that will be.
I’m sure it will involve meeting him face to face in order to have a conversation about the virtues of selling the club over a glass of beer. That would be nice 🙂
Why would direct action at the valley work, when RD clearly doesn't care what happens at The Valley, now, in his little town where he's king, that's another matter entirely.
Maybe because it's the nearest we can get to Murray and Turk
This is exactly the worry for me. Murray and LDT are comparative small fry. Roland has the power over them not the other way around. Protests at the Valley aimed against those two may make us laugh but I don’t think it is a worthwhile use of resources. Roland is the disease, they are merely the symptoms.
It is pretty clear that the EFL aren’t going to be much help to us. They are fully aware of our problems and have little interest. Similarly the press and media have reported the situation but Roland isn’t hurt much by reportage in our press.
The way forward is to go for Roland and his “interests” in Belgium and especially in St. Truiden. This might be more costly in time, effort and money than keeping the protests here but I really believe it is more effective.
west stand banners especially for games covered live ridiculing and criticising the twunt should keep the campaign in the collective football conscience (sic) - keep the protests on TV and they can't be ignored Anybody got access to when Colin Murray and Quest TV will be calling in to SE7?
Would be proper up for a trip to Belgium. Realistically I'm never going to get to follow Charlton across Europe, so a protest abroad is probably the closest I'll get to itt
I wonder if trying to get comments from Roderick Duchatelet might not be a good idea as he is the favourite to be the next Owner of Cafc.
Ps. Favourite with me, as no one else has mentioned this tragic scenario.
Yes and no.
Yes in the sense maybe a few words from someone close to Roland might help him reduce the price.
No in the sense that Roland will probably live for another 30 years just to spite us so Roderick inheriting the club is probably a seriously long way off.
I wonder if trying to get comments from Roderick Duchatelet might not be a good idea as he is the favourite to be the next Owner of Cafc.
Ps. Favourite with me, as no one else has mentioned this tragic scenario.
Yes and no.
Yes in the sense maybe a few words from someone close to Roland might help him reduce the price.
No in the sense that Roland will probably live for another 30 years just to spite us so Roderick inheriting the club is probably a seriously long way off.
I know Duchatelet lies when his lips move but I wonder if retiring from all his businesses at 75 was one truth in a myriad of lies ?
Worse case scenario maybe but Couldn't Roderick be owner in 3 years if the price isn't right !
I have no idea of the son's personality but I would be amazed if he would want the harassment of Cafc.
I wonder if trying to get comments from Roderick Duchatelet might not be a good idea as he is the favourite to be the next Owner of Cafc.
Ps. Favourite with me, as no one else has mentioned this tragic scenario.
Yes and no.
Yes in the sense maybe a few words from someone close to Roland might help him reduce the price.
No in the sense that Roland will probably live for another 30 years just to spite us so Roderick inheriting the club is probably a seriously long way off.
I know Duchatelet lies when his lips move but I wonder if retiring from all his businesses at 75 was one truth in a myriad of lies ?
Worse case scenario maybe but Couldn't Roderick be owner in 3 years if the price isn't right !
I have no idea of the son's personality but I would be amazed if he would want the harassment of Cafc.
He might be normal and keen to spend his inheritance on getting us to the Prem.
Very good unifying statement from CARD - just what was needed at this point. It seems to me that at the moment, the Team and the Club have become two very different entities. We all support the Team and most on here want to see a change of ownership of the Club.
The Manager did an amazing job last season to bring fans together to give full support to the Team. People are saying that's because we were winning - but of course that was the case. The Manager's one job is to build a winning Team, and as fans we will get behind and support that. Previous Managers were not able to do that and got the support they deserved.
The Club is a different matter, and for some I can understand that they don't care how it is run. Everyone has a different level of interest in what happens beyond the Team but it's probably fair to say that the fans that post on here are more invested than most.
For me, Bowyer's achievements last season, with the help of his staff, was incredible. Yes, we had some well-paid players, but the lack of a working infrastructure around him must have made it seem like he was running a non-League side at times. The fans definitely made a difference - I don't believe the play-off games would have been won without the support the Team were given. It's not often we say that about Charlton fans, but last season we did make a difference.
Bringing that level of support and passion to protests against the current ownership of the Club will also make a difference in my opinion. I don't expect more than a few hundred to travel to Belgium but I have no doubt that will influence the Owner more than anything else. Targeting his lieutenants is also a good strategy.
The Owner got lucky some years ago by inventing a car gizmo that proved popular. Since then he seems to have confused that luck with being some sort of visionary. He's not a visionary, he's clearly proved himself to be out of his depth with anything else he's tried. Facing up to this failure seems to be the hardest thing for him to accept, and in my opinion is the thing he would most hate his Belgian peers to think about him.
CARD, like the Valley Party before them, have shown how to organise effective, humorous protests that capture the imagination of the press and I'd like to think that one last effort will do the job. It may not, but if it doesn't it will at least be a step on the way to the last effort that does.
The Owner's time is up - he knows it, we know it. He just needs nudging over the line to finally sell up.
Agree with all that except the last bit; he doesn’t know that and he won’t be leaving until he gets the money he wants.
Now in view of today's news, how are we going to walk the walk?
It’s not news though, at the moment it’s a rumour, and if it’s true then this has been happening since Roland walked through the doors. Not disagreeing that a trip to Belgium shouldn’t happen mind you.
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Like being savaged by a dead sheep. EFL - not fit for purpose.
The Manager did an amazing job last season to bring fans together to give full support to the Team. People are saying that's because we were winning - but of course that was the case. The Manager's one job is to build a winning Team, and as fans we will get behind and support that. Previous Managers were not able to do that and got the support they deserved.
The Club is a different matter, and for some I can understand that they don't care how it is run. Everyone has a different level of interest in what happens beyond the Team but it's probably fair to say that the fans that post on here are more invested than most.
For me, Bowyer's achievements last season, with the help of his staff, was incredible. Yes, we had some well-paid players, but the lack of a working infrastructure around him must have made it seem like he was running a non-League side at times. The fans definitely made a difference - I don't believe the play-off games would have been won without the support the Team were given. It's not often we say that about Charlton fans, but last season we did make a difference.
Bringing that level of support and passion to protests against the current ownership of the Club will also make a difference in my opinion. I don't expect more than a few hundred to travel to Belgium but I have no doubt that will influence the Owner more than anything else. Targeting his lieutenants is also a good strategy.
The Owner got lucky some years ago by inventing a car gizmo that proved popular. Since then he seems to have confused that luck with being some sort of visionary. He's not a visionary, he's clearly proved himself to be out of his depth with anything else he's tried. Facing up to this failure seems to be the hardest thing for him to accept, and in my opinion is the thing he would most hate his Belgian peers to think about him.
CARD, like the Valley Party before them, have shown how to organise effective, humorous protests that capture the imagination of the press and I'd like to think that one last effort will do the job. It may not, but if it doesn't it will at least be a step on the way to the last effort that does.
The Owner's time is up - he knows it, we know it. He just needs nudging over the line to finally sell up.
Maybe because it's the nearest we can get to Murray and Turk
Indeed, the Pink Pigs event went global, and was reported in newspapers as far away as South America and the Philippines.
Agree we need to get at RD. I'm thinking that many people wont be able to get to Belgium so would want to do something here. Are you thinking that protests at the Valley divide the fan base more than just protesting in Belgium?
I support some action in principle, but wait to see the proposition before saying I'll join in.
Mind you, I'm not usually one to complain and then do nothing, so I'll likely join any action.
We can help take away both of those precious things....until he f*cks off!
I want my club back.
I'm not even looking forward to the new season anymore.
Might as well still be in league f*cking one
It is pretty clear that the EFL aren’t going to be much help to us. They are fully aware of our problems and have little interest. Similarly the press and media have reported the situation but Roland isn’t hurt much by reportage in our press.
The way forward is to go for Roland and his “interests” in Belgium and especially in St. Truiden. This might be more costly in time, effort and money than keeping the protests here but I really believe it is more effective.
Anybody got access to when Colin Murray and Quest TV will be calling in to SE7?
I eagerly anticipate the direct action promised.
WAR is on standby with loins duly girded & extra strong tin drawers ordered today c/o Amazon .
Just say the word.....
Ps. Favourite with me, as no one else has mentioned this tragic scenario.
Yes in the sense maybe a few words from someone close to Roland might help him reduce the price.
No in the sense that Roland will probably live for another 30 years just to spite us so Roderick inheriting the club is probably a seriously long way off.
Worse case scenario maybe but Couldn't Roderick be owner in 3 years if the price isn't right !
I have no idea of the son's personality but I would be amazed if he would want the harassment of Cafc.
Now in view of today's news, how are we going to walk the walk?