So, how are you managing which games to purchase and watch?
It could be an expensive season. Alternatively, it provides something to follow in the content Lockdown for the price of 3 coffees.
Or 2 beers and a packet of nuts...
Personally I have paid for (including the next 8 games) 12 games this season. I have also watched streams showing the other games. I don't think I can afford that for the rest of the season and will likely flip flop between the two.
I did really enjoy having our commentary team back on Saturday, for some reason streams always have the opposition commentary? Maybe because our commentary is provided by VP and others provide their commentary to iFollow?
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do this season, to watch all the games.
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do this season, to watch all the games.
In League 1 it's the same price for UK based or Intl. Or do you mean the overseas season ticket?
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do this season, to watch all the games.
In League 1 it's the same price for UK based or Intl. Or do you mean the overseas season ticket?
Yes, they pay 195 for all league games, we pay over £400. There was a massive shit storm when Premier league teams charged £15 compared to a £60 physical ticket, so why is it fine for us to pay 50% of a physical ticket to sit and watch it at home ?
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do, to watch all the games.
People seem to be forgetting that the Ifollow/Valley pass service is meant to be a service for overseas viewers, it is only being offered to all fans because of the present restrictions, the ten pound fee is one of the only sources of income for some clubs at the moment. I'm not sure what some people are moaning about, is it the quality of the production[dodgy pictures, adverts, action replays, etc] or ten pounds for 1st division football. Ten pounds a match is £460.00 for a league season, a hell a lot cheaper for me & others who would attend all or most of these games.
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do, to watch all the games.
People seem to be forgetting that the Ifollow/Valley pass service is meant to be a service for overseas viewers, it is only being offered to all fans because of the present restrictions, the ten pound fee is one of the only sources of income for some clubs at the moment. I'm not sure what some people are moaning about, is it the quality of the production[dodgy pictures, adverts, action replays, etc] or ten pounds for 1st division football. Ten pounds a match is £460.00 for a league season, a hell a lot cheaper for me & others who would attend all or most of these games.
Cheaper but not a comparable experience at all I am sure you'd agree?
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do, to watch all the games.
People seem to be forgetting that the Ifollow/Valley pass service is meant to be a service for overseas viewers, it is only being offered to all fans because of the present restrictions, the ten pound fee is one of the only sources of income for some clubs at the moment. I'm not sure what some people are moaning about, is it the quality of the production[dodgy pictures, adverts, action replays, etc] or ten pounds for 1st division football. Ten pounds a match is £460.00 for a league season, a hell a lot cheaper for me & others who would attend all or most of these games.
So ? It really does not matter what a match day experience costs, some fans are paying £195, others are paying £460.. thats all that matters.
You've mentions the costs, well the costs are in place to provide for overseas fans, it costs nothing extra to supply it to us... so why are we paying double ?
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Maybe the likes of Rick Parry could be doing more to ensure a package gets created that helps Football League clubs rather than pandering to two clubs that happen to have historical success
Like Ian Holloway said the other day, a bit of success shouldnt give one club more say than another
In that sense, get a decent package for Football League teams and offer games for free perhaps - I've got no problem paying something for these games but I'm sure there'll be plenty who will be wondering again why Premier League fans get their games for free and we dont?
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do, to watch all the games.
People seem to be forgetting that the Ifollow/Valley pass service is meant to be a service for overseas viewers, it is only being offered to all fans because of the present restrictions, the ten pound fee is one of the only sources of income for some clubs at the moment. I'm not sure what some people are moaning about, is it the quality of the production[dodgy pictures, adverts, action replays, etc] or ten pounds for 1st division football. Ten pounds a match is £460.00 for a league season, a hell a lot cheaper for me & others who would attend all or most of these games.
So ? It really does not matter what a match day experience costs, some fans are paying £195, others are paying £460.. thats all that matters.
You've mentions the costs, well the costs are in place to provide for overseas fans, it costs nothing extra to supply it to us... so why are we paying double ?
I don't why it so cheap for overseas viewers, but £10.00 a game is not unreasonable for supporters in the UK. Also clubs are probably conscious that if they charge a lower fee people would start to object to matchday admission charges when they get the opportunity to pay them.
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Make it cheaper then, absolutely zero excuse for home based fans to be paying more than double of what overseas fans do, to watch all the games.
People seem to be forgetting that the Ifollow/Valley pass service is meant to be a service for overseas viewers, it is only being offered to all fans because of the present restrictions, the ten pound fee is one of the only sources of income for some clubs at the moment. I'm not sure what some people are moaning about, is it the quality of the production[dodgy pictures, adverts, action replays, etc] or ten pounds for 1st division football. Ten pounds a match is £460.00 for a league season, a hell a lot cheaper for me & others who would attend all or most of these games.
So ? It really does not matter what a match day experience costs, some fans are paying £195, others are paying £460.. thats all that matters.
You've mentions the costs, well the costs are in place to provide for overseas fans, it costs nothing extra to supply it to us... so why are we paying double ?
I don't why it so cheap for overseas viewers, but £10.00 a game is not unreasonable for supporters in the UK. Also clubs are probably conscious that if they charge a lower fee people would start to object to matchday admission charges when they get the opportunity to pay them.
£25 on the door is fine, £200 a season on TV is fine, they are moaning about losing money, but they wpuld lose even more by making it overseas fans only.
EFL claim they have lost almost £500,000 due to illegal streaming of matches in the Championship and below as they appeal to fans to help them eliminate threat of piracy
EFL clubs met to discuss the matter this week and launched a campaign, appealing to the better nature of their supporters, urging them to avoid and report illegal streams so they can close them down.
Also with warnings that action can be taken by clubs against fans who abuse the iFollow agreement.
'This is a real problem,' said the EFL's chief commercial officer Ben Wright. 'It's costing our clubs money at a time when they don't need to be losing revenue. Put simply it's stealing.'
Maybe the likes of Rick Parry could be doing more to ensure a package gets created that helps Football League clubs rather than pandering to two clubs that happen to have historical success
Like Ian Holloway said the other day, a bit of success shouldnt give one club more say than another
In that sense, get a decent package for Football League teams and offer games for free perhaps - I've got no problem paying something for these games but I'm sure there'll be plenty who will be wondering again why Premier League fans get their games for free and we dont?
Premier League fans aren't getting it for free though, as you still have to subscribe to Sky, BT and Amazon to have all the games
Obviously it is not the same but it is a cheaper season if you used to go to the Valley. 1 home game and 1 away game is cheaper than a ticket to watch a game live. I know it isn't better, but it is what it is. I'm glad I can watch us.
It is easy enough for me to say because I am able to afford it, but I have paid for and watched every single game so far, and don't regret it at all, I would even pay for U23 games. However I am longing to return to the Valley, didn't get a season ticket and it was too late to do so when Thomas finally took over. Desperate to find a way to go live asap, but getting television coverage is the next best thing.
I still get the feeling of matchday anticipation and am looking forward to tonight. I would prefer, seeing as we don't have to travel to games at the moment, if they were 6:15pm kick-offs as I would be able to watch all of an 8pm Champions League game too rather than just one half.
If you had two teams of chimps kicking a ball about I would watch it. I would watch us above any other choice but I'll be watching the Man Utd second half tonight, as long as Charlton don't put me in a foul mood
If you had two teams of chimps kicking a ball about I would watch it. I would watch us above any other choice but I'll be watching the Man Utd second half tonight, as long as Charlton don't put me in a foul mood
If you had two teams of chimps kicking a ball about I would watch it. I would watch us above any other choice but I'll be watching the Man Utd second half tonight, as long as Charlton don't put me in a foul mood
Bake-off it is then 😅
I'll be recording bake-off, so no spoilers on the match thread
Of course it's not the same experience as being there, but £10 is a lot less than my ticket price in the East Stand, where I have a similar view to the camera. Plus if I go by tube/train then the travel cost is nearly £10 anyway
Latest AutoCAD prices are approx £1800 and Microstation £2400.
How can they justify this price for a software package when you can get a browser or spreadsheet for almost nothing? Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
How can they justify £10 to watch Charlton when you can watch Liverpool - Leicester for almost nothing on Sky. Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
Latest AutoCAD prices are approx £1800 and Microstation £2400.
How can they justify this price for a software package when you can get a browser or spreadsheet for almost nothing? Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
How can they justify £10 to watch Charlton when you can watch Liverpool - Leicester for almost nothing on Sky. Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
Monetising a service for profit?
Reckon anyone that followed Charlton and was paying for a season ticket or irregular matches is likely swallowing £10 without too much pain Not sure £5 would bring in many less committed followers but would certainly help the committed fans forking out £10 and struggling financially.
Latest AutoCAD prices are approx £1800 and Microstation £2400.
How can they justify this price for a software package when you can get a browser or spreadsheet for almost nothing? Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
How can they justify £10 to watch Charlton when you can watch Liverpool - Leicester for almost nothing on Sky. Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
£250 a month (ish) for Microstation.
Don't worry as they look to level the playing field with a perpetual license for just £5,964 or a perpetual license with annual select subscription for a paltry £7,093
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but i can't see it.
There was a comment on Twitter yesterday, which TS has retweeted, saying we are the most streamed club in League 1. Does anyone know whether this is true, and what it is based on?
Is it based on total views across all our games, in which case presumably having played Sunderland, Portsmouth and Ipswich helps (albeit we have played one fewer than many), total CAFC (VP) purchases or average per game of one of those two?
I think TS said he was disappointed we were selling only circa 3k VP purchases a game a few weeks ago, so hard to believe even given the Range Rover competition for the last three. I think Ipswich have had a few home games at above 7k and Sunderland v Peterborough in September had 8.6k which was the highest single game virtual attendance at the time.
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I did really enjoy having our commentary team back on Saturday, for some reason streams always have the opposition commentary? Maybe because our commentary is provided by VP and others provide their commentary to iFollow?
I'm not sure what some people are moaning about, is it the quality of the production[dodgy pictures, adverts, action replays, etc] or ten pounds for 1st division football.
Ten pounds a match is £460.00 for a league season, a hell a lot cheaper for me & others who would attend all or most of these games.
You've mentions the costs, well the costs are in place to provide for overseas fans, it costs nothing extra to supply it to us... so why are we paying double ?
Like Ian Holloway said the other day, a bit of success shouldnt give one club more say than another
In that sense, get a decent package for Football League teams and offer games for free perhaps - I've got no problem paying something for these games but I'm sure there'll be plenty who will be wondering again why Premier League fans get their games for free and we dont?
Also clubs are probably conscious that if they charge a lower fee people would start to object to matchday admission charges when they get the opportunity to pay them.
However I am longing to return to the Valley, didn't get a season ticket and it was too late to do so when Thomas finally took over.
Desperate to find a way to go live asap, but getting television coverage is the next best thing.
With away games, the cost of going is even higher
There have been open conversations on here about how to illegally stream Charlton.
Right now we should be supporting our clubs financially.
Latest AutoCAD prices are approx £1800 and Microstation £2400.
How can they justify this price for a software package when you can get a browser or spreadsheet for almost nothing? Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
How can they justify £10 to watch Charlton when you can watch Liverpool - Leicester for almost nothing on Sky. Surely they would do better if they halved the prices. Maybe not.
Reckon anyone that followed Charlton and was paying for a season ticket or irregular matches is likely swallowing £10 without too much pain Not sure £5 would bring in many less committed followers but would certainly help the committed fans forking out £10 and struggling financially.
Be OK when we get back in the Premier League
Don't worry as they look to level the playing field with a perpetual license for just £5,964 or a perpetual license with annual select subscription for a paltry £7,093
There was a comment on Twitter yesterday, which TS has retweeted, saying we are the most streamed club in League 1. Does anyone know whether this is true, and what it is based on?
Is it based on total views across all our games, in which case presumably having played Sunderland, Portsmouth and Ipswich helps (albeit we have played one fewer than many), total CAFC (VP) purchases or average per game of one of those two?
I think TS said he was disappointed we were selling only circa 3k VP purchases a game a few weeks ago, so hard to believe even given the Range Rover competition for the last three. I think Ipswich have had a few home games at above 7k and Sunderland v Peterborough in September had 8.6k which was the highest single game virtual attendance at the time.