Just like to say thanks to all those people who asked about my son after the firecrackers incident , he is fine shaken at the time but ok now , also hope the rest of the people who where in the vicinity are all ok , apart from the incident our fans where different class again , we sat downstairs after half time and looking up it looked very impressive , the team superb they obviously love playing for Bows , looking at the commitment they are giving 120% let’s hope it continues throughout the season , long way to go but staying is this league isn’t beyond us .
thanks to Blackburn staff and medical team for looking after my boy, top drawer .
Glad to hear he is ok - it was pretty close to where we were and it was very loud. Throwing that into our own fans is absolutely cowardly, hope the person responsible feels mortified that it affected your son.
Question for everyone calling Sarr a liability: how many times did his errors lead directly to goalscoring chances? Conceding a corner doesn't count obviously. And then how many times did his errors lead to goalscoring chances last season? I can't remember many. As someone who's played in a back 4 all his life, playing on the side of a back 3 isn't a change he can make overnight. I'm sure he'll grow into the role. It's sad to see him getting written off by so many after the season he had last time. In home games especially it would be useful to have players who can link defence with attack and we don't have better than him at that
I know that you will ignore any failings in Sarr’s game but Bowyer had to remove Sarr from the game yesterday, as he did at Wembley, before he made a mistake that led to a goal and/or got himself sent off.
I think in the main Sarr had a really good season in League One last year, it’s probably about his level.
Oshilaja looked pretty decent in his short cameo, I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves ahead of Sarr in the pecking order eventually.
Removing someone on a yellow card makes sense, but removing them because they might make a mistake that leads to a goal, even though they haven't done that already, is a really weird and unfair interpretation. Probably he wanted to go to a back 4 and Sarr was the natural choice to come off as he'd been booked. If you think League One is his level you've been attending games blindfold
Question for everyone calling Sarr a liability: how many times did his errors lead directly to goalscoring chances? Conceding a corner doesn't count obviously. And then how many times did his errors lead to goalscoring chances last season? I can't remember many. As someone who's played in a back 4 all his life, playing on the side of a back 3 isn't a change he can make overnight. I'm sure he'll grow into the role. It's sad to see him getting written off by so many after the season he had last time. In home games especially it would be useful to have players who can link defence with attack and we don't have better than him at that
I know that you will ignore any failings in Sarr’s game but Bowyer had to remove Sarr from the game yesterday, as he did at Wembley, before he made a mistake that led to a goal and/or got himself sent off.
I think in the main Sarr had a really good season in League One last year, it’s probably about his level.
Oshilaja looked pretty decent in his short cameo, I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves ahead of Sarr in the pecking order eventually.
Removing someone on a yellow card makes sense, but removing them because they might make a mistake that leads to a goal, even though they haven't done that already, is a really weird and unfair interpretation. Probably he wanted to go to a back 4 and Sarr was the natural choice to come off as he'd been booked. If you think League One is his level you've been attending games blindfold
Just like to say thanks to all those people who asked about my son after the firecrackers incident , he is fine shaken at the time but ok now , also hope the rest of the people who where in the vicinity are all ok , apart from the incident our fans where different class again , we sat downstairs after half time and looking up it looked very impressive , the team superb they obviously love playing for Bows , looking at the commitment they are giving 120% let’s hope it continues throughout the season , long way to go but staying is this league isn’t beyond us .
thanks to Blackburn staff and medical team for looking after my boy, top drawer .
Glad to hear he is ok - it was pretty close to where we were and it was very loud. Throwing that into our own fans is absolutely cowardly, hope the person responsible feels mortified that it affected your son.
Yep likewise,good that your little fella is ok...but throwing anything into any crowd spesh crackers/fireworks is completely insane & hopefully the knobhead who threw it,gets his comeuppance from the authorities...
On the football...more of the same you beautiful Addicks & we will be fine...
Question for everyone calling Sarr a liability: how many times did his errors lead directly to goalscoring chances? Conceding a corner doesn't count obviously. And then how many times did his errors lead to goalscoring chances last season? I can't remember many. As someone who's played in a back 4 all his life, playing on the side of a back 3 isn't a change he can make overnight. I'm sure he'll grow into the role. It's sad to see him getting written off by so many after the season he had last time. In home games especially it would be useful to have players who can link defence with attack and we don't have better than him at that
I know that you will ignore any failings in Sarr’s game but Bowyer had to remove Sarr from the game yesterday, as he did at Wembley, before he made a mistake that led to a goal and/or got himself sent off.
I think in the main Sarr had a really good season in League One last year, it’s probably about his level.
Oshilaja looked pretty decent in his short cameo, I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves ahead of Sarr in the pecking order eventually.
Too early to write Sarr off. He’s just had his first good season with us, given time he can adapt to Championship football and three at the back. Especially with Bowyer as manager who’s shown how good he is at improving players.
Looking at that Taylor goal i wonder if he actually made contact with it. That reverse shot of the goal doesn't show any deviation from the initial header. I reckon it was going in whether he touched it or not.
Looking at that Taylor goal i wonder if he actually made contact with it. That reverse shot of the goal doesn't show any deviation from the initial header. I reckon it was going in whether he touched it or not.
Looking at that Taylor goal i wonder if he actually made contact with it. That reverse shot of the goal doesn't show any deviation from the initial header. I reckon it was going in whether he touched it or not.
At best it was hitting the outside of the post. I had a pretty good view of it being that side of the goal and only 5 rows from the front - Lyle definitely touched it.
With us having the smallest player budget in the league it really is a case of team togetherness and all that versus pure individual ability that will get us through the season and fan togetherness too and dare I say it in a kind of millwall-esque kind of way which is why Millwall away is a must go to game. Yesterday’s result is a real confidence boost for everyone and really looking forward to Saturday
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
He’s a good player and I think he will learn that we’ve stepped up a level and he’s not got the luxury of as much time on the ball as he had last season. I expect him to go on and prove he’ll be an asset to the team. Does just need to be a tad more aware of what’s going on around him and his role in a defensive back line, collectively.
Question for everyone calling Sarr a liability: how many times did his errors lead directly to goalscoring chances? Conceding a corner doesn't count obviously. And then how many times did his errors lead to goalscoring chances last season? I can't remember many. As someone who's played in a back 4 all his life, playing on the side of a back 3 isn't a change he can make overnight. I'm sure he'll grow into the role. It's sad to see him getting written off by so many after the season he had last time. In home games especially it would be useful to have players who can link defence with attack and we don't have better than him at that
I know that you will ignore any failings in Sarr’s game but Bowyer had to remove Sarr from the game yesterday, as he did at Wembley, before he made a mistake that led to a goal and/or got himself sent off.
I think in the main Sarr had a really good season in League One last year, it’s probably about his level.
Oshilaja looked pretty decent in his short cameo, I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves ahead of Sarr in the pecking order eventually.
Removing someone on a yellow card makes sense, but removing them because they might make a mistake that leads to a goal, even though they haven't done that already, is a really weird and unfair interpretation. Probably he wanted to go to a back 4 and Sarr was the natural choice to come off as he'd been booked. If you think League One is his level you've been attending games blindfold
He decided to match up with Blackburn. They changed their system soon after. It is what happens during games and a great thing about the way Bowyer sets up is that he can change things easily.
Naby is clearly a confidence player and to me it seems like the play off error may still be playing on him, and getting on his back on social media definitely won’t help. He’s not great in a back 3 but he’ll grow into the role, dropping him from the starting eleven isn’t the answer because we need his height and physical presence (especially with the loss of Bauer).
Naby looks like an accident waiting to happen, but when you analyse the accidents, there are no more than other players. Like any player, he will have times when he is at the top of his game and times where he isn't. His passing from the back was very effective for us last season and can be this. It is harder to pass when there is less space. I suspect it was a game that didn't really play to his strengths.
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
He’s a good player and I think he will learn that we’ve stepped up a level and he’s not got the luxury of as much time on the ball as he had last season. I expect him to go on and prove he’ll be an asset to the team. Does just need to be a tad more aware of what’s going on around him and his role in a defensive back line, collectively.
I mentioned it on player marks but last year Naby had so many out-balls available to him, either short to Cullen, Bielik or Purrington, or longer to Aribo/Taylor/Parker.
Yesterday, through a combination of Blackburn’s Championship quality press and the fact that Pratley and Lapslie aren’t as able to find that space as Cullen and Bielik are he was hurried in a way he wasn’t used to. We will improve our midfield and Sarr will adapt. He had a bad game but he improved so much over last year I am sure he can do it again. He just needs a bit of time, coaching and confidence.
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
He’s a good player and I think he will learn that we’ve stepped up a level and he’s not got the luxury of as much time on the ball as he had last season. I expect him to go on and prove he’ll be an asset to the team. Does just need to be a tad more aware of what’s going on around him and his role in a defensive back line, collectively.
I mentioned it on player marks but last year Naby had so many out-balls available to him, either short to Cullen, Bielik or Purrington, or longer to Aribo/Taylor/Parker.
Yesterday, through a combination of Blackburn’s Championship quality press and the fact that Pratley and Lapslie aren’t as able to find that space as Cullen and Bielik are he was hurried in a way he wasn’t used to. We will improve our midfield and Sarr will adapt. He had a bad game but he improved so much over last year I am sure he can do it again. He just needs a bit of time, coaching and confidence.
With Naby I think, given time on the ball he can be real quality and look top drawer. Under pressure or having to make quick decisions he fails. With a bit of luck on the ball he can look quality as well, thing is as the standard increases you don't get that time on the ball and also your luck runs out.
He's a good CH but shouldn't be receiving the ball under pressure on the flanks at any given time.
Not quite sure how Bowyer and Jacko can improve on improving a player to make quicker decisions.
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
He’s a good player and I think he will learn that we’ve stepped up a level and he’s not got the luxury of as much time on the ball as he had last season. I expect him to go on and prove he’ll be an asset to the team. Does just need to be a tad more aware of what’s going on around him and his role in a defensive back line, collectively.
I mentioned it on player marks but last year Naby had so many out-balls available to him, either short to Cullen, Bielik or Purrington, or longer to Aribo/Taylor/Parker.
Yesterday, through a combination of Blackburn’s Championship quality press and the fact that Pratley and Lapslie aren’t as able to find that space as Cullen and Bielik are he was hurried in a way he wasn’t used to. We will improve our midfield and Sarr will adapt. He had a bad game but he improved so much over last year I am sure he can do it again. He just needs a bit of time, coaching and confidence.
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Agree. Arguably the midfield in front of him at the end of last season is better than the one that has started this season. That coupled with the step up means it’s another learning curve
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
He’s a good player and I think he will learn that we’ve stepped up a level and he’s not got the luxury of as much time on the ball as he had last season. I expect him to go on and prove he’ll be an asset to the team. Does just need to be a tad more aware of what’s going on around him and his role in a defensive back line, collectively.
I mentioned it on player marks but last year Naby had so many out-balls available to him, either short to Cullen, Bielik or Purrington, or longer to Aribo/Taylor/Parker.
Yesterday, through a combination of Blackburn’s Championship quality press and the fact that Pratley and Lapslie aren’t as able to find that space as Cullen and Bielik are he was hurried in a way he wasn’t used to. We will improve our midfield and Sarr will adapt. He had a bad game but he improved so much over last year I am sure he can do it again. He just needs a bit of time, coaching and confidence.
This
Agree. Arguably the midfield in front of him at the end of last season is better than the one that has started this season. That coupled with the step up means it’s another learning curve
Question for everyone calling Sarr a liability: how many times did his errors lead directly to goalscoring chances? Conceding a corner doesn't count obviously. And then how many times did his errors lead to goalscoring chances last season? I can't remember many. As someone who's played in a back 4 all his life, playing on the side of a back 3 isn't a change he can make overnight. I'm sure he'll grow into the role. It's sad to see him getting written off by so many after the season he had last time. In home games especially it would be useful to have players who can link defence with attack and we don't have better than him at that
I don't get why it needs to lead to a goalscoring chance to be a problem, that just highlights Blackburn's inability to create one on the back of a mistake. Obviously way too soon to be writing him off at this level though, no doubt yesterday will give him a good idea of the time he'll get on the ball. He'll improve I'm sure.
There's also the fact Naby just looks naturally a bit gangly and awkward which probably adds to the impression of danger. He looks like a standard issue "big lump" defender when in reality he's potentially got much more in his locker.
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce. When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
He’s a good player and I think he will learn that we’ve stepped up a level and he’s not got the luxury of as much time on the ball as he had last season. I expect him to go on and prove he’ll be an asset to the team. Does just need to be a tad more aware of what’s going on around him and his role in a defensive back line, collectively.
It's a long season and we have a small squad so both Naby and Jason Pearce will play a full part with their contrasting strengths and weaknesses.
Our excellent manager will shuffle his pack to optimise their strengths just as he did yesterday.
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On the football...more of the same you beautiful Addicks & we will be fine...
Until the semi final 2nd leg Naby was excellent when taking over from Pearce.
When Lee decided we needed the flexibility of five with Dijksteel and Purrington as wing backs( crazy some said as they can't attack, pre Wembley obviously) Naby's position became Corbenesque: far left !
Wembley highlighted the weakness of a giant being exposed outside his comfort Zone. The Comedy own goal which was tragic at the time, affected his, more than Dillion's confidence. Before being hooked by his Fisherman friend manager his game was imploding with the booking and he was dithering. Then Captain Old fashion CB Pearce came on for 2nd half and calmness ensued.
The narrative changed for many on CL and I understand Twitter yesterday, with talk of a horrendous pass for a corner and Sarr's poor header on the goal line leading to the goal ! When social media hiccups, bile pours out. Mistaken identify for the header and hyperbole for the pass But the damage had been done and like at Wembley the Correct decision was made even if it occured in the second half.
Disappointed that I only realised WIOTOS that the Nabster made the sweeping pass for Taylor's effort but the prerequisite of a defender is to defend 1st and there will be much work on the training ground but the extra skill of Championship Forwards and quicker brains may not make the Cruyff turn when last man possible for Naby now.
I understand that there is no room for sentiment in the brutas Championship but I have come here to praise Naby for his efforts not to bury him.
Et tu Charlton Life.
Yesterday, through a combination of Blackburn’s Championship quality press and the fact that Pratley and Lapslie aren’t as able to find that space as Cullen and Bielik are he was hurried in a way he wasn’t used to. We will improve our midfield and Sarr will adapt. He had a bad game but he improved so much over last year I am sure he can do it again. He just needs a bit of time, coaching and confidence.
Thanks to @cabbles, @MuttleyCAFC, @RC_CAFC, @JoshAddick for your imput.
I enjoy a debate when folk are drinking coffee and not just on the piss.
Smell the coffee.
Under pressure or having to make quick decisions he fails.
With a bit of luck on the ball he can look quality as well, thing is as the standard increases you don't get that time on the ball and also your luck runs out.
He's a good CH but shouldn't be receiving the ball under pressure on the flanks at any given time.
Not quite sure how Bowyer and Jacko can improve on improving a player to make quicker decisions.
Obviously way too soon to be writing him off at this level though, no doubt yesterday will give him a good idea of the time he'll get on the ball. He'll improve I'm sure.
Our excellent manager will shuffle his pack to optimise their strengths just as he did yesterday.