West Ham's choice, not Josh's. Might just be ensuring they get a bigger fee but all depends on how much money HE is prepared to part with to secure Josh on a permanent deal.
Not too alarmed by this. Didn't we activate an extension in Fosu's contract to ensure we got some sort of fee?
No we offered Fosu a contract to ensure we got a fee
He rejected it which enabled him to move to Oxford but they still had to pay us compensation due to his age
Same would have happened with Cullen had he joined us in the summer after refusing to sign this Extension - Although I bet anything that West Ham would have recalled him and left him to rot in the U23s or would have just sold him had he done that
This is purely so we pay a fee for him. Doesn’t mean he’s in their plans, we have to cough up a decent fee now that’s all. Guess this will see what ESI are made of.
It would seem sensible of them to activate the extension of a player who they will certainly be able to command a fee for if they do decide he is surplus to requirements.
I'm sure I've read articles about Moyes rating him. I know he played Cullen during his first stint at West Ham.
If they go down, they've got a Championship midfielder there ready to go, because I'm sure they'll need him with the outgoings they'll have should relegation happen.
On the flip side, if they stay up. Maybe Moyes could see him playing a part there or maybe its just to get some return when they flog him on. Guess it remains to be seen.
Reckon it will come down to whether West Ham stay up or not. If they do then I can't see them wanting him. If they go down at the very least he'd be a good squad player for them.
Bit of a conundrum really. Really want West Ham to go down, but if they do they'll probably keep him!
Not too alarmed by this. Didn't we activate an extension in Fosu's contract to ensure we got some sort of fee?
No we offered Fosu a contract to ensure we got a fee
He rejected it which enabled him to move to Oxford but they still had to pay us compensation due to his age
Same would have happened with Cullen had he joined us in the summer after refusing to sign this Extension - Although I bet anything that West Ham would have recalled him and left him to rot in the U23s or would have just sold him had he done that
It was Harriott we did this with, Reading then bought him the same summer.
I think it all depends on how West Ham finish the season now. As has been said, if they go down there is a stronger chance that he becomes part of their plans.
Worst thing that'll happen is Ireland qualify for the Euros - Have a reasonable tournament with Cullen instrumental
Will be Bielik last summer all over again
Agreed, If WH stay up, someone will buy him in the summer, hopefully us, but he could go for big bucks like Bielik. Cant see him playing regularly in the Prem for them.
He’s gotta be worth £4m minimum if we sign him for that sort of dough whilst at the same time completing the proper purchase of The Valley and Sparrows Lane then miracles do happen
So he'll now be 24 when his contract expires - correct? Does that mean he'd be available for free in summer 2021, rather than for a development fee?
Yep, which is why I think WH will sell him this summer. If we are serious about buying him, we should do so now. Price is going to go up in the summer and we are the only club able to buy him now
Well no way will West Ham loan him to us for a 3rd season, especially with his contract running down in the summer of 21. He'll either be in their squad next season or sold
Well no way will West Ham loan him to us for a 3rd season, especially with his contract running down in the summer of 21. He'll either be in their squad next season or sold
How much would you value Cullen at ?? I am thinking £2 - £3 million. Using Maddison as a guide - think Beliyk was overpriced by Arsenal and Derby were desperate at the time. Hard one to gauge.
How much would you value Cullen at ?? I am thinking £2 - £3 million. Using Maddison as a guide - think Beliyk was overpriced by Arsenal and Derby were desperate at the time. Hard one to gauge.
I wouldn't worry too much about the extension. We spent most of the summer just gone worrying because Josh was integrated into West Ham's preseason and we thought they might give him a chance, and he still ended up back with us where he belongs. This is West Ham, they can afford to spend £45m on a striker and £24m on a midfielder and still have money left over. Ultimately if they need a midfielder in the Premier League they'll likely look beyond him and get in someone for big money. If they go down then things might be different, but that also would be hilarious so I think we have to take the trade-off.
How much would you value Cullen at ?? I am thinking £2 - £3 million. Using Maddison as a guide - think Beliyk was overpriced by Arsenal and Derby were desperate at the time. Hard one to gauge.
I rate him more than Beilik but agree £10m now seems like Derby paid too much. Would say more than 5, less than 10 for Cullen would be a decent price.
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He rejected it which enabled him to move to Oxford but they still had to pay us compensation due to his age
Same would have happened with Cullen had he joined us in the summer after refusing to sign this Extension - Although I bet anything that West Ham would have recalled him and left him to rot in the U23s or would have just sold him had he done that
I'm sure I've read articles about Moyes rating him. I know he played Cullen during his first stint at West Ham.
If they go down, they've got a Championship midfielder there ready to go, because I'm sure they'll need him with the outgoings they'll have should relegation happen.
On the flip side, if they stay up. Maybe Moyes could see him playing a part there or maybe its just to get some return when they flog him on. Guess it remains to be seen.
It's the lesser of two evils IMO and doesn't mean he can't still be made permanent.
I suspect as others have said if they stay up they'll look to cash in and if they go down they'll keep him.
if we sign him for that sort of dough whilst at the same time completing the proper purchase of The Valley and Sparrows Lane then miracles do happen
By the time his West Ham extended contract expires, he'll already be 25.
Tune of Majid Boughera song/what's that running over the hill is it a monster, is it a monster etc.
https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/18182902.josh-cullen-looks-return-peak-form-charltons-run-in/