Woolwich Addicks

CAFCTrev

Bloody hell, what have I started??

DoctorCharlton

Some people take life too serious lol

usetobunkin

RedChaser said:

I was born and went to school in Woolwich if that helps. 😉

Me too!

Covered End

Henry Irving said:

Covered End said:

iainment said:

DoctorCharlton said:

Honestly didn't think there were any Charlton fans left in Woolwich, seems to be a heavy muslim community there now.

Didn't think they had much interest in football. And no, that's not racist.

It is.

Most of my muslim friends are very interested in football.

The point being, how many percentage wise come to The Valley on a very regular basis ?
How many percentage wise are S/T holders ?

That's wasn't the point though, was it.

"They" don't have much interest in football is just a lazy generalisation.  OK "some" or even "many" might not be interested in Charlton or coming to the Valley but that's not the same as not having much interest in football.  And the same applies to the majority of "Christian" people in Woolwich too.

Some Muslims like football, some don't, same for Jews, Christians, Atheists and just about everyone else.  No need to generalise.

Quite. A difference between a lazy generalisation and accusing someone of msking racial comments. 

I wish they weren't any religions & everyone could just go about there business without the unnecessay accusations. 

Covered End

Anyway, anyone else living in Woolwich who supports Charlton, whichever God they also follow? 

fadgadget

Thamesmead.......if thats ok , And i worship the lord Jedi .

Henry Irving

Covered End said:

Henry Irving said:

Covered End said:

iainment said:

DoctorCharlton said:

Honestly didn't think there were any Charlton fans left in Woolwich, seems to be a heavy muslim community there now.

Didn't think they had much interest in football. And no, that's not racist.

It is.

Most of my muslim friends are very interested in football.

The point being, how many percentage wise come to The Valley on a very regular basis ?
How many percentage wise are S/T holders ?

That's wasn't the point though, was it.

"They" don't have much interest in football is just a lazy generalisation.  OK "some" or even "many" might not be interested in Charlton or coming to the Valley but that's not the same as not having much interest in football.  And the same applies to the majority of "Christian" people in Woolwich too.

Some Muslims like football, some don't, same for Jews, Christians, Atheists and just about everyone else.  No need to generalise.

Quite. A difference between a lazy generalisation and accusing someone of msking racial comments. 

I wish they weren't any religions & everyone could just go about there business without the unnecessay accusations. 

I agree but unfortunately the former too often lead into the latter.

As you say the comment was unnecessary.

Covered End

Henry Irving said:

Covered End said:

Henry Irving said:

Covered End said:

iainment said:

DoctorCharlton said:

Honestly didn't think there were any Charlton fans left in Woolwich, seems to be a heavy muslim community there now.

Didn't think they had much interest in football. And no, that's not racist.

It is.

Most of my muslim friends are very interested in football.

The point being, how many percentage wise come to The Valley on a very regular basis ?
How many percentage wise are S/T holders ?

That's wasn't the point though, was it.

"They" don't have much interest in football is just a lazy generalisation.  OK "some" or even "many" might not be interested in Charlton or coming to the Valley but that's not the same as not having much interest in football.  And the same applies to the majority of "Christian" people in Woolwich too.

Some Muslims like football, some don't, same for Jews, Christians, Atheists and just about everyone else.  No need to generalise.

Quite. A difference between a lazy generalisation and accusing someone of msking racial comments. 

I wish they weren't any religions & everyone could just go about there business without the unnecessay accusations. 

I agree but unfortunately the former too often lead into the latter.

As you say the comment was unnecessary.

The wording was not thought through, but the meaning was clear if you don't have an agenda.

It is quite clear that our support is under represented by ethnic minorities for a SE London club. 

What the reasons are for that are not so clear.

What is clear to me is people calling out racism, without good reason, which undermines the cause of preventing actual racism. 

CAFCTrev

Ok moving on, so far its just me and 1 other Charlton fan in Woolwich?

swords_alive

So everytime we get mention of Woolwich it's ok to get remarks about somalis, yemen, bring your passport? And these are repeated remarks sometimes by the same individuals on the same thread. Ok some people are just lazy or stupid or provocative in using these terms in this context but actually that is casual racism and worth calling out even if that is slightly annoying or tiresome for some. It is I think part of the reason why our support is not representative of the area.  'Actual racism' as covered end calls it, is never far behind,  and we do get bad incidents occurring from time to time. So sorry to be a bore, but that is what I think and wanted to clarify.

Baldybonce

CAFCTrev said:

Ok moving on, so far its just me and 1 other Charlton fan in Woolwich?

I think you'll find lots were born there in the 50's at the hospital for mothers and babies (I can't remember the name)

Chizz

CAFCTrev said:

Brendan_O_Connell said:

Johnnysummers5 said:

I live in Charlton, grew up in Woolwich still go there a lot, am sure there are a lot of Charlton supporters living there, I think it's a nice place to live.

It is.   If you're used to living in Yemen. 

Or the Royal Arsenal bubble?

Konstantinos Mavropanos?

eaststandmike

I was born in Woolwich in 1957 and supported Charlton from 1967/68 season. As a few have mentioned having a family of my own and work put me on a path of moving from Woolwich to Welling, then to  Bexleyheath, out to St Mary’s Platt and finally where I am now in Mereworth.

Do I miss Woolwich...no. Would I move back....not a chance.

CAFCTrev

So a ton of boomers born here, but the number still here isnt going up!

Leuth

This thread has begun so badly it's forced me to like an Irving post ffs

Anyway, I live a literal stone's underarm toss from SE18 and regularly haunt the place. Can I be an honorary Woolwichian?

ExiledinManchester

I was born at the British Hospital for Mothers and Babies on Samuel Street in 1948. My parents lived in the Charlton Park area until the mid 50’s when they moved out to Slade Green.

Baldybonce

CAFCTrev said:

So a ton of boomers born here, but the number still here isnt going up!

I think that tells you something..

RedChaser

Baldybonce said:

CAFCTrev said:

Ok moving on, so far its just me and 1 other Charlton fan in Woolwich?

I think you'll find lots were born there in the 50's at the hospital for mothers and babies (I can't remember the name)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Hospital_for_Mothers_and_Babies

Oggy Red

Baldybonce said:

CAFCTrev said:

Ok moving on, so far its just me and 1 other Charlton fan in Woolwich?

I think you'll find lots were born there in the 50's at the hospital for mothers and babies (I can't remember the name)

In 1955 I was born at St Nicholas Hospital, Plumstead ....... is that the hospital you mean?

Baldybonce

Oggy Red said:

Baldybonce said:

CAFCTrev said:

Ok moving on, so far its just me and 1 other Charlton fan in Woolwich?

I think you'll find lots were born there in the 50's at the hospital for mothers and babies (I can't remember the name)

In 1955 I was born at St Nicholas Hospital, Plumstead ....... is that the hospital you mean?

No. As above, the British hospital for mothers and babies.

Oggy Red

Baldybonce said:

Oggy Red said:

Baldybonce said:

CAFCTrev said:

Ok moving on, so far its just me and 1 other Charlton fan in Woolwich?

I think you'll find lots were born there in the 50's at the hospital for mothers and babies (I can't remember the name)

In 1955 I was born at St Nicholas Hospital, Plumstead ....... is that the hospital you mean?

No. As above, the British hospital for mothers and babies.

Yeah, now  just seen that post.

I'd left the thread open while I had my dinner and it doesn't update itself - so I hadn't seen any new posts which had crossed my post. 

soapy_jones

When I moved from the Yemen with my family we gravitated to Woolwich for two good reasons, the Mosques and Charlton Athletic Football Club,,,

Oggy Red

In 1972-74 I used to work for the Woolwich Equitable at Equitable House opposite Woolwich Arsenal station.
Every morning I'd get the 51 bus from Welling.

I'm sure people are desperate to know that.

Leuth

Now a fine pub!

Oggy Red

Leuth said:

Now a fine pub!

Really - a pub?

Remember it being an iconic 1930s Art Deco building, untouched inside and out.
Real modernist period piece (oxymoron?) even back in the early 70s.

Leuth

Yeah they've kept it like that! It's great. Really tastefully done

Henry Irving

Oggy Red said:

Leuth said:

Now a fine pub!

Really - a pub?

Remember it being an iconic 1930s Art Deco building, untouched inside and out.
Real modernist period piece (oxymoron?) even back in the early 70s.

@Oggy Red

Pub and various shops downstairs, offices (I do some work for a charity based there) on the middle floors and flats being finished on top floors.

You might not recognise it.

PS my older brother, Valley Party candidate lives in Woolwich, my son wants to but can't afford to.

i_b_b_o_r_g

Mum's been in The Elephant & Castle this afternoon for a G&T, wonder what they made of each other

Addick in SW16

(No jokes about my username) I’m risking sounding really stupid here. I sort of live in Woolwich. I’m kind of in an area that I don’t think is in Charlton or Woolwich, although my wife says it’s Charlton. No one really seems sure. We’re next to Hornfair Park, which, according to the Greenwich Council website, is in Charlton despite having an SE18 postcode (same with the lido).

So, I’m local. Grew up in SE18 and live there now. Love being able to walk to and from home games.

Starinnaddick

Live in SE18. Plumstead Common. 
Plenty of Addicks round here.