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  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,414
    What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,021
    Rothko said:
    The new Skoda Elroq we're getting in October is a sub 6 second 0-60 machine
    What one have you gone for @Rothko?

    I've been looking at the Elroq and Enyaq's.  They look fabulous cars.
    A lot of the reviews have said the 85 is the one to go for.

    I've been toying with MG 4, Cupra Born, Megane and EV3 as our second local run around car but think I may be best to go for a bigger SUV sized car, thus looking at the Skodas.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,610
    What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?
    Makes no odds to us. We keep our cars for over 10-15yrs.
    In fact the only car I’ve ever made a profit on was my Citroen 2CV. I had it 10yrs, bought it for 1k, sold it for 3.5k. I should have kept it, worth in excess of 11k now in good nick 😩
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    JohnBoyUK said:
    Rothko said:
    The new Skoda Elroq we're getting in October is a sub 6 second 0-60 machine
    What one have you gone for @Rothko?

    I've been looking at the Elroq and Enyaq's.  They look fabulous cars.
    A lot of the reviews have said the 85 is the one to go for.

    I've been toying with MG 4, Cupra Born, Megane and EV3 as our second local run around car but think I may be best to go for a bigger SUV sized car, thus looking at the Skodas.
    We've gone for an Elroq 85 Edition, didn't add to much to the spec as it bumped it into Luxury car tax space with the leasing firm, but loved it from the moment we took it out on the test drive. 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,154
    Has anyone got a Peugeot E-2008, or know much about them? My wife is considering a second-hand one. Many of the downsides in the reviews don't bother us, such as lack of rear seat space, range should be fine for her trips, and we are used to the French annoyances in the touchscreen contols, as I have a DS. But the reliability rating on Which mag is not great, on further reading most of the issues are software related.

    So any personal experiences to add to the reviews would be helpful. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 4
    Bought a Hyundai Inster. 
    Absolutely love it. 
    £3 to charge from 20% to 100%. Get about 200 miles for that. 
    A dream to drive. 

  • JamesSeed said:
    Bought a Hyundai Inster. 
    Absolutely love it. 
    £3 to charge from 20% to 100%. Get about 200 miles for that. 
    A dream to drive. 

    Shouldn’t this be on the you know you’re getting old thread ?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    JamesSeed said:
    Bought a Hyundai Inster. 
    Absolutely love it. 
    £3 to charge from 20% to 100%. Get about 200 miles for that. 
    A dream to drive. 

    Shouldn’t this be on the you know you’re getting old thread ?
    Probably. 😂
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    It looks like it is made from LEGO 
  • Phantom_User
    Phantom_User Posts: 655
    Has anyone got a Peugeot E-2008, or know much about them? My wife is considering a second-hand one. Many of the downsides in the reviews don't bother us, such as lack of rear seat space, range should be fine for her trips, and we are used to the French annoyances in the touchscreen contols, as I have a DS. But the reliability rating on Which mag is not great, on further reading most of the issues are software related.

    So any personal experiences to add to the reviews would be helpful. 
    I had one as a company car on a 71 plate.
    it worked perfectly fine.
    boot space not great but manageable for weekly shops etc.
    just had to drop a back seat for suitcases.

    it was in a 3 year lease and by the end of the lease the range on a full charge stated 198 miles. It started life as 210ish.

    Range was not accurate, as you’d expect but I did a lot of motorway miles
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  • JamesSeed said:
    Bought a Hyundai Inster. 
    Absolutely love it. 
    £3 to charge from 20% to 100%. Get about 200 miles for that. 
    A dream to drive. 

    Love the look of it.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    edited August 4
    One of these two likely to be my next motor.



    Really like the look of the saloon in the background 
    SUV is due out early 2026 and saloon later in the year. Both EV.


  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,850
    edited August 4
    One of these two likely to be my next motor.



    Really like the look of the saloon in the background 
    SUV is due out early 2026 and saloon later in the year. Both EV.



    The saloon won't be cheap - upwards of £70k I would guess and that would be the base model.

    Looks very Lambo!

    I'll stick to my ICE - probably the last car I will own because I've no intention of selling it unless/until I can no longer drive confidently. Two sleeps until collection!

    My wife is due a change in the next year or so and will definitely get her an EV - quite like the look of the KIA EV5.
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 587
    Decided to get a self-charge hybrid, averaging 70mpg, no range anxiety and silent electric motoring through town- its a compromise that works for me.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    bobmunro said:
    One of these two likely to be my next motor.



    Really like the look of the saloon in the background 
    SUV is due out early 2026 and saloon later in the year. Both EV.



    The saloon won't be cheap - upwards of £70k I would guess and that would be the base model.

    Looks very Lambo!

    I'll stick to my ICE - probably the last car I will own because I've no intention of selling it unless/until I can no longer drive confidently. Two sleeps until collection!

    My wife is due a change in the next year or so and will definitely get her an EV - quite like the look of the KIA EV5.
    Good news is nearly new it will be worth half that and still with warranty etc.😀

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    MrOneLung said:
    It looks like it is made from LEGO 
    One of the many reasons I like it. 🙂
    It’s also bigger on the inside than the outside. Don’t need anything bigger. It was also cheap for an EV. 


  • SE10Addick
    SE10Addick Posts: 2,964
    this is so very good. Rory Sutherland is a very smart man.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OTOKws45kCo
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 587
    JamesSeed said:
    MrOneLung said:
    It looks like it is made from LEGO 
    One of the many reasons I like it. 🙂
    It’s also bigger on the inside than the outside. Don’t need anything bigger. It was also cheap for an EV. 


    shit parking!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,850
    gringo said:
    JamesSeed said:
    MrOneLung said:
    It looks like it is made from LEGO 
    One of the many reasons I like it. 🙂
    It’s also bigger on the inside than the outside. Don’t need anything bigger. It was also cheap for an EV. 


    shit parking!
    It would appear the parking to the left is even worse!

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    bobmunro said:
    gringo said:
    JamesSeed said:
    MrOneLung said:
    It looks like it is made from LEGO 
    One of the many reasons I like it. 🙂
    It’s also bigger on the inside than the outside. Don’t need anything bigger. It was also cheap for an EV. 


    shit parking!
    It would appear the parking to the left is even worse!

    They painted the lines after we parked. Cough.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    @cafcnick1992 'What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?'
    You had me worried there for a minute, so I checked online.
    You can get a used Inster (Long Range version) for around £21,400, which is only £600 less than I paid for a new one.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,596
    edited August 6
    JamesSeed said:

    @cafcnick1992 'What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?'
    You had me worried there for a minute, so I checked online.
    You can get a used Inster (Long Range version) for around £21,400, which is only £600 less than I paid for a new one.
    You can buy pre registered one's (long range) for about £18.5k (sub 100 miles) the last two 25 plates that went through auction (granted one wasn't the long range) went for under £13k. webuyanycar will effectively give you the trade CAP value, yours with 1000 miles books at about £14.2k. So It's almost done 35% in about 2 months if you paid £22k. And I suspect the £22k was heavily discounted (Hyundai are giving about 20% off straight away, some dealers will go further).

    In 12 months the trade value will be sub £10k I'm afraid. It will slow but by three years I'd be amazed if it didn't book at sub £6k.

    The auctions are literally full of secondhand electric cars that are simply not shifting even when heavily discounted. My advice to anyone would be to effectively lease one on a good deal if you want to go electric, do not buy a new electric car outright. There's basically very little market currently for electric cars once they are 2-3 years old.

    Even worse are Hydrogen cars, fast way to lose 90% in a year!

    PS, picked up the Mrs new car last Friday, a dirty petrol mild hybrid :-) BMW 1M Sport, at the weekend on a run did 59.4 to the gallon, I've never had a car do that!
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Rob7Lee said:
    JamesSeed said:

    @cafcnick1992 'What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?'
    You had me worried there for a minute, so I checked online.
    You can get a used Inster (Long Range version) for around £21,400, which is only £600 less than I paid for a new one.
    You can buy pre registered one's (long range) for about £18.5k (sub 100 miles) the last two 25 plates that went through auction (granted one wasn't the long range) went for under £13k. webuyanycar will effectively give you the trade CAP value, yours with 1000 miles books at about £14.2k. So It's almost done 35% in about 2 months if you paid £22k. And I suspect the £22k was heavily discounted (Hyundai are giving about 20% off straight away, some dealers will go further).

    In 12 months the trade value will be sub £10k I'm afraid. It will slow but by three years I'd be amazed if it didn't book at sub £6k.

    The auctions are literally full of secondhand electric cars that are simply not shifting even when heavily discounted. My advice to anyone would be to effectively lease one on a good deal if you want to go electric, do not buy a new electric car outright. There's basically very little market currently for electric cars once they are 2-3 years old.

    Even worse are Hydrogen cars, fast way to lose 90% in a year!

    PS, picked up the Mrs new car last Friday, a dirty petrol mild hybrid :-) BMW 1M Sport, at the weekend on a run did 59.4 to the gallon, I've never had a car do that!
    Good advice
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,354
    Really don't know if it's the future or not,  but we've had our Ioniq 5 for six months now and we like it still,  doesn't have premium build quality but it's irritations are minor,  the thing I really love about it is never visiting petrol stations,  we charge it at home or occasionally when shopping or eating out,  I'll definitely have another EV as the range is fine for me. 
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    I recently took out a 2 year lease on an electric ford capri (was harking back to my early 20's when I had a 3 litre one). I really like it, it has just about every toy you can have for £270 a month (plus initial fee). 

    Charging at home is cheap as chips (9p per watt hour overnight). The range is 370 miles but hoping to get around 300 miles. Not yet had the need to charge away from the house.

    I would definetly look to be getting another electric car when this lease expires. Not so sure about buying one though.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,414
    Rob7Lee said:
    JamesSeed said:

    @cafcnick1992 'What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?'
    You had me worried there for a minute, so I checked online.
    You can get a used Inster (Long Range version) for around £21,400, which is only £600 less than I paid for a new one.
    You can buy pre registered one's (long range) for about £18.5k (sub 100 miles) the last two 25 plates that went through auction (granted one wasn't the long range) went for under £13k. webuyanycar will effectively give you the trade CAP value, yours with 1000 miles books at about £14.2k. So It's almost done 35% in about 2 months if you paid £22k. And I suspect the £22k was heavily discounted (Hyundai are giving about 20% off straight away, some dealers will go further).

    In 12 months the trade value will be sub £10k I'm afraid. It will slow but by three years I'd be amazed if it didn't book at sub £6k.

    The auctions are literally full of secondhand electric cars that are simply not shifting even when heavily discounted. My advice to anyone would be to effectively lease one on a good deal if you want to go electric, do not buy a new electric car outright. There's basically very little market currently for electric cars once they are 2-3 years old.

    Even worse are Hydrogen cars, fast way to lose 90% in a year!

    PS, picked up the Mrs new car last Friday, a dirty petrol mild hybrid :-) BMW 1M Sport, at the weekend on a run did 59.4 to the gallon, I've never had a car do that!
    I have a 2004 Fiat Panda 1.1 which I use to commute to and from work. Paid £500 for it, uses £50 of fuel a month and i literally don't care if someone drives into it. Car ownership at its best!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,850
    Rob7Lee said:
    JamesSeed said:

    @cafcnick1992 'What's faster? The 0-60 time or the depreciation in value?'
    You had me worried there for a minute, so I checked online.
    You can get a used Inster (Long Range version) for around £21,400, which is only £600 less than I paid for a new one.
    You can buy pre registered one's (long range) for about £18.5k (sub 100 miles) the last two 25 plates that went through auction (granted one wasn't the long range) went for under £13k. webuyanycar will effectively give you the trade CAP value, yours with 1000 miles books at about £14.2k. So It's almost done 35% in about 2 months if you paid £22k. And I suspect the £22k was heavily discounted (Hyundai are giving about 20% off straight away, some dealers will go further).

    In 12 months the trade value will be sub £10k I'm afraid. It will slow but by three years I'd be amazed if it didn't book at sub £6k.

    The auctions are literally full of secondhand electric cars that are simply not shifting even when heavily discounted. My advice to anyone would be to effectively lease one on a good deal if you want to go electric, do not buy a new electric car outright. There's basically very little market currently for electric cars once they are 2-3 years old.

    Even worse are Hydrogen cars, fast way to lose 90% in a year!

    PS, picked up the Mrs new car last Friday, a dirty petrol mild hybrid :-) BMW 1M Sport, at the weekend on a run did 59.4 to the gallon, I've never had a car do that!
    I have a 2004 Fiat Panda 1.1 which I use to commute to and from work. Paid £500 for it, uses £50 of fuel a month and i literally don't care if someone drives into it. Car ownership at its best!

    I'm sure my wife wishes I could be as frugal as that!
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753

    JamesSeed said:
    MrOneLung said:
    It looks like it is made from LEGO 
    One of the many reasons I like it. 🙂
    It’s also bigger on the inside than the outside. Don’t need anything bigger. It was also cheap for an EV. 



    TARDIS science fiction is now science fact. Wow!
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    I’m seriously considering one of these:

    all-electric-mini-countryman




    Does anyone have one of these, or a similar alternative?