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Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan
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Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
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It's a difficult one.
Nimer is on the payroll of the sheikh. If the money he receives from that payroll is in any way used to finance the club are we then in conflict of interest territory?
I would hope not.
If Warren Glazer bought a slazenger sweatshirt from Sports direct could Man utd be accussed of being in cahoots with Newcastle united?0 -
cafcfan1990 said:
Best not let Sarr play
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!8 -
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!0 -
Surely these successful people have got as far as they have in life by knowing what is needed to get a contract over the line.
All just noise I think.3 -
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
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How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.1 -
Not convinced about relationships being the issue - it would be funds from the same source that would concern them.cafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
If my eldest bought Charlton and my youngest bought Palace (to liquidate them) then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem as long as they could prove they were not both using my money.3 -
Doris, I need to send out a letter, pronto. Can you take take this down please?
Dear football supporters
We have decided that the sale of Charlton Athletic can't go through. It's because there could be a conflict of interest resulting from the fact that the owner of Manchester City is related to the potential owner of Charlton Athletic.
It would not be in football's best interests to have one club owned by one member of a family and another football club owned by another member of the same family. So, it is with regret that we have dismissed the takeover of Charlton Athletic.
Although Charlton fans will feel disappointed in this decision, we must all understand that the integrity of football across this country and in the rest of the world is of the utmost importance. And it is for that reason that we have to ensure that no two clubs are owned by members of the same family.
We would like to wish the potential Charlton Athletic owners the very best with their future plans and would like to make it clear that we are not casting their motives or actions in any negative light.
And we would like to wish Roland Duchatelet success as he continues ownership of Charlton Athletic and offer best wishes to his family, including son Roderick, the owner of...
Wait. Doris, scrap that. I have another letter. Can you take this down instead?
Dear Charlton supporters
I have some great news for you...10 -
UEFA did an investigation and somehow ruled that Red Bull Leipzig and Red Bull Salzburg appearing in the same competition wasn't a conflict of interest.
So surely we'll be fine...........6 -
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Do you reckon? Maybe you're right but personally I would be shocked if it wasn't an issue. Mainly because of other teams in the League and their complaints. Sheffield United would definitely be up for going to court again!bobmunro said:
Not convinced about relationships being the issue - it would be funds from the same source that would concern them.cafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
If my eldest bought Charlton and my youngest bought Palace (to liquidate them) then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem as long as they could prove they were not both using my money.
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Bit like Roland owning Charlton while his wife owned St Truiden and his son Ujpest and players moved between them. EFL response? Zero.carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
Up to Man City who they loan players to.
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Not sure if that's deliberate but shouldn't that be "Sheikhy" ground?carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.10 -
May not be pertinent now, but when we are 22 points clear of Chelsea at the top of the PL and have just knocked Liverpool out of the CL their Lawyers will be heavily scrutinising the day his excellency took over little old CAFC!Henry Irving said:
Bit like Roland owning Charlton while his wife owned St Truiden and his son Ujpest and players moved between them. EFL response? Zero.carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
Up to Man City who they loan players to.1 -
Don’t you just love Charlton Life. Only a few weeks ago we were getting dicked by Millwall (again) and have hardly picked up a point since but that doesn’t stop us speculating that Man City will be giving us first refusal on their players and doing us a favour if we need a point or two to get that Champions league spot. Don’t get me wrong I’m as nuts as the rest of you. Love it.12
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The two things can coexist though. I mean, we can all see in the future that Lee Bowyer will have his pick from a squad, awash with the greatest talent that Middle Eastern money can buy as well as a plethora of Manchester City's galacticos from whom to choose. And still get dicked by Millwall.ShootersHillGuru said:Don’t you just love Charlton Life. Only a few weeks ago we were getting dicked by Millwall (again) and have hardly picked up a point since but that doesn’t stop us speculating that Man City will be giving us first refusal on their players and doing us a favour if we need a point or two to get that Champions league spot. Don’t get me wrong I’m as nuts as the rest of you. Love it.7 -
They might be Liam & Noel type brothers. All they have to do now is have a fight and put it on YouTubeShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.0 -
Or Sheikhy ground.carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.0 -
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/04ABUDHABI4586_a.html
Quite a bit of info here on how things run in AD.
I've only scoured through but I think our man ( or not really our man if you're reading EFL!)
Has been bumped out of the top table for being less educated and a bit of a dinosaur.0 -
He should fit in well.carly burn said:https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/04ABUDHABI4586_a.html
Quite a bit of info here on how things run in AD.
I've only scoured through but I think our man ( or not really our man if you're reading EFL!)
Has been bumped out of the top table for being less educated and a bit of a dinosaur.0 -
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If I have read this properly, it seems his father has been ousted for being less formally educated and he's been removed too. (Rather than our man being ousted for that reason).carly burn said:https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/04ABUDHABI4586_a.html
Quite a bit of info here on how things run in AD.
I've only scoured through but I think our man ( or not really our man if you're reading EFL!)
Has been bumped out of the top table for being less educated and a bit of a dinosaur.0 -
I think that's our man. Says he's in his sixties which judging by the pictures is about right.Chizz said:
If I have read this properly, it seems his father has been ousted for being less formally educated and he's been removed too. (Rather than our man being ousted for that reason).carly burn said:https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/04ABUDHABI4586_a.html
Quite a bit of info here on how things run in AD.
I've only scoured through but I think our man ( or not really our man if you're reading EFL!)
Has been bumped out of the top table for being less educated and a bit of a dinosaur.
His old man would be in his 80's wouldn't he?0 -
You do realise that this document dates back to 2004?carly burn said:https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/04ABUDHABI4586_a.html
Quite a bit of info here on how things run in AD.
I've only scoured through but I think our man ( or not really our man if you're reading EFL!)
Has been bumped out of the top table for being less educated and a bit of a dinosaur.That was a lifetime ago so far as Abu Dhabi is concerned.4 -
So we’ve got the ostracised skint ones skinter son , shock horror3
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I think our man is the younger onecarly burn said:
I think that's our man. Says he's in his sixties which judging by the pictures is about right.Chizz said:
If I have read this properly, it seems his father has been ousted for being less formally educated and he's been removed too. (Rather than our man being ousted for that reason).carly burn said:https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/04ABUDHABI4586_a.html
Quite a bit of info here on how things run in AD.
I've only scoured through but I think our man ( or not really our man if you're reading EFL!)
Has been bumped out of the top table for being less educated and a bit of a dinosaur.
His old man would be in his 80's wouldn't he?0 -
Is he not our man at all?1
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Didn’t matter with Roland and his son in Belgium.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
st trudien was his son’s name and liege Roland.
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Must admit, I’d find it concerning if I was a supporter of another club but, having not read this full thread, can I ask just how closely are they related?carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
if at all?0 -
Addick Addict said:
Not sure if that's deliberate but shouldn't that be "Sheikhy" ground?carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
Our boy Lyle can’t spell shake either 😂. Instagram/ TwitterAddick Addict said:
Not sure if that's deliberate but shouldn't that be "Sheikhy" ground?carly burn said:
How I see it. If there is any sort of a family tie then we could be on shaky groundcafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.0 -
Not correct, his son owns Ujpest. It was STVV that he made over to his wife. However, that's an important precedent too. He only made it over to his wife because STVV were getting promoted to the same division as Standard, and he was expecting trouble then from the other top clubs.CafcSCP said:
Didn’t matter with Roland and his son in Belgium.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
st trudien was his son’s name and liege Roland.
It does though then raise the question as to whether the EFL would even have a City link within their remit to consider. The FAPL is outside their jurisdiction. If Charlton were to be promoted, its no longer an EFL issue, but one for the FAPL. That's how ridiculous our system is. If it were the FA, or a regulator looking at such conflicts, it would be a different matter.
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