"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
Do you have any evidence to back this up? why is his nationality Syrian? also, have you found any evidence of his time in the US? It would be very helpful.
His profile on ADBD says a lot of this. Could be lies but i don't see why he would lie.
if you look at Zulfiqar Ghadiyali, he is proud of his Uni in the US on linked in - I would have thought Nimer would have similar. it is a strange thing IMO - you can create a website and write whatever you want about yourself - hardly fact-checked.
True he could write whatever he wanted, but i think it's highly unlikely a guy over here in a senior role at a private office for a Sheikh isn't well educated.
It's been discussed on this site before that many of the guys involved, Nimer, Hirst, Heller, van Seventer have all done a fair degree of cleaning up their internet presence. There isn't much to be found about many of them really, just bits and pieces.
That's all fine, look I'm not trying to discredit the man here, i just want to try and put together Facts that we can see. You have to speculate and dig to get that sometimes.
Appy Addicks post last night was pretty convincing.
The UAE has only really existed since 1971, and that borders in the middle east, are porous, so being born in Syria, but then having all your life in the Emirates, is completely possible.
Ghadiyali website and the ADBD site shows there is a serious lack of web design talent in the UAE
I have seen this multiple times - I don't believe he is talking about himself I think he is talking about Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan company/companies.
If he was CEO of over 60 companies the internet would be awash with his name. it isn't. However we find the sheikh's name associated to the industrys Nimer is talking about.
I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
That may be the case, but surely as a Charlton fan you would want to see paperwork of that commitment?
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
That's my current understanding as well and may explain why he can't prove the source of funds.
I think we're used to an environment were Companies House tells you loads of things, but there is still huge gaps in that data, for example there are two banks in the UK with 5m customers, but you'll be stumped to find who the VC firms are who are invested in them via CH.
Not all the answers, especially in what is essentially a feudal system where protecting the dealings of the royal family trumps everything
Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
That may be the case, but surely as a Charlton fan you would want to see paperwork of that commitment?
Maybe these days in the Western World, but that was never the case in the past was it? I thought it was just, "He's worth a few bob" and that was it. These days it's all about knowing the ins and outs of a cats arse and that's what I think breeds uncertainty and anxiety.
Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.
I'll also add, that business/government culture in the middle east is massively different then in the UK, shitballing your juniors is probably absolutely fine
Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.
Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.
I agree it's unprofessional and I was shocked. He has been calmer since and has a legal team in place it seems.
He isn't the first and won't be the last successful businessman to act like that. Doesn't make him any less successful nor capable of investing money wisely.
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.
Yep, definitely less professional than expected but he went Bat S Crazy... As time went on he got his legal team involved and has been better since. I think we saw him snap as it happened.
Press the right buttons and even the Pope will bitch slap you.
I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?
Doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.
Neither have any mention of managing family funds.
The description "Private Office" means it's family funds. Nimer is in the same position as a fund manager investing clients money. Doesn't mean everything TN is involved in is using private office funds.
PANORAMA MAGIC GENERALCONTRACTING L.L.C. is funding the venture in Charlton and no reason to think they have access to assets which form part of the Sheikh's private wealth which is separately managed.
It looks like a private investment by TN who is relying on raising funds from third parties. MS may have given TN the impression that he could find UK investors and it's all gone pear shaped.
The man had a big shock in finding out that someone who he had trusted had shafted him.
I don't blame the man for reacting just as any of us would, i.e going batshit crazy. He is only human, after all. I mean....just thinking about that twat Matt Southall is getting me into a bit of a psychotic rage - and it isn't my cash that he's been pissing up the wall to fund his 'look at me' lifestyle project.
Fortunately, he has deleted the posts etc. and taken legal advice, hence the change in tone.
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
Agreed. Most people lose money investing in football clubs, but not everyone. Getting to the Prem and staying there for a couple of seasons would make a nice return (unless it’s cost 150mil+ to get there).
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment' i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment' i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
I disagree. It's difficult but can be done.
It's not unrealistic to think our best XI this season could have been - Phillips, Matthews, Lockyer, Bauer, Purrington, Pratley, Cullen, Gallagher, Aribo, Taylor, Bonne
Ok two of those players wouldn't have been ours, but another 2/3 decent freebies, couple of loans and then say 5mil invested and we could easily have finished top 6/8.
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
Agreed. Most people lose money investing in football clubs, but not everyone. Getting to the Prem and staying there for a couple of seasons would make a nice return (unless it’s cost 150mil+ to get there).
Bottom line is, if there's no money to be made in football for investors, we might aswell pack up once this generation have moved on and, if that is the case, why are we bothered anyway?
.....going by the start of this season, I'd say £50m for Charlton, isn't a bad investment if you put in another couple of £m over the summer. Could well be up there contending next term
Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment' i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
I disagree. It's difficult but can be done.
It's not unrealistic to think our best XI this season could have been - Phillips, Matthews, Lockyer, Bauer, Purrington, Pratley, Cullen, Gallagher, Aribo, Taylor, Bonne
Ok two of those players wouldn't have been ours, but another 2/3 decent freebies, couple of loans and then say 5mil invested and we could easily have finished top 6/8.
I agree with a following wind and a lot of luck it can be achieved cheaper than your Wolves but more often than not it isn't , Sheffield Utd must have done it reasonably but they're the exception
Then what you do when you get there is anyones guess , I know the americans who bought in to palace were looking to sell due to the extortionate wages, transfer fees that take place once in the prem Best bet is to try and get up cheap pocket the money oyston style and run , to get a decent profit .... which is beyond horrendous
.....going by the start of this season, I'd say £50m for Charlton, isn't a bad investment if you put in another couple of £m over the summer. Could well be up there contending next term
lets hope our knight in shining armour comes along and takes us away from this nightmare , with a bit of luck Nimer could be genuine and have (access to ) some real money that wants to be spent to help us
.....going by the start of this season, I'd say £50m for Charlton, isn't a bad investment if you put in another couple of £m over the summer. Could well be up there contending next term
lets hope our knight in shining armour comes along and takes us away from this nightmare , with a bit of luck Nimer could be genuine and have (access to ) some real money that wants to be spent to help us
In order for us to be able to trust an owner again we really need that to be what happens.
I really, really want Nimer to be legit, legal and as a result the right man to take us forward for our collective sanity.
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That's all fine, look I'm not trying to discredit the man here, i just want to try and put together Facts that we can see. You have to speculate and dig to get that sometimes.
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
Nimer has stated he has provided it again I believe.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
That may be the case, but surely as a Charlton fan you would want to see paperwork of that commitment?
Not all the answers, especially in what is essentially a feudal system where protecting the dealings of the royal family trumps everything
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.
He isn't the first and won't be the last successful businessman to act like that. Doesn't make him any less successful nor capable of investing money wisely.
Press the right buttons and even the Pope will bitch slap you.
PANORAMA MAGIC GENERALCONTRACTING L.L.C. is funding the venture in Charlton and no reason to think they have access to assets which form part of the Sheikh's private wealth which is separately managed.
It looks like a private investment by TN who is relying on raising funds from third parties. MS may have given TN the impression that he could find UK investors and it's all gone pear shaped.
I don't blame the man for reacting just as any of us would, i.e going batshit crazy. He is only human, after all. I mean....just thinking about that twat Matt Southall is getting me into a bit of a psychotic rage - and it isn't my cash that he's been pissing up the wall to fund his 'look at me' lifestyle project.
Fortunately, he has deleted the posts etc. and taken legal advice, hence the change in tone.
Revenge is a dish best served cold etc.
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it
I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
It's not unrealistic to think our best XI this season could have been - Phillips, Matthews, Lockyer, Bauer, Purrington, Pratley, Cullen, Gallagher, Aribo, Taylor, Bonne
Ok two of those players wouldn't have been ours, but another 2/3 decent freebies, couple of loans and then say 5mil invested and we could easily have finished top 6/8.
Then what you do when you get there is anyones guess , I know the americans who bought in to palace were looking to sell due to the extortionate wages, transfer fees that take place once in the prem
Best bet is to try and get up cheap pocket the money oyston style and run , to get a decent profit .... which is beyond horrendous
I really, really want Nimer to be legit, legal and as a result the right man to take us forward for our collective sanity.