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Is Thomas Driesen Gone? - he popped in on p16, and back out on p26
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Capitalist Hippie ?!?
Ta ta, son.
Enjoy your Lego.18 -
Pathetic isn’t it ... he hasn’t got a clue.Anna_Kissed said:Capitalist Hippie ?!?
Ta ta, son.
Enjoy your Lego.2 -
Brilliant. But just one minor edit at line 5:Scoham said:
We don't need no Thomas DriesenSE7toSG3 said:I am really enjoying the gradual collapse of all things RD and this is just another prick in the wall.
We don't need no Duchatelet
No Katrien Meire in the boardroom
Roland leave this club alone
Hey, Roland, leave this club alone
All in all it's just another prick in the wall
All in all you're just another prick in the wall
Huh, Roland, leave this club alone.18 -
Thank you for helping us improve our ranking.
In Gallen We Trust
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I can’t find where it says about him knocking scour reports up in his bedroom. I wanted to frame it.1
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Capitalist Hippie? He really is right up his own arsestoneroses19 said:
It’s definitely time for him to change his bio on Twitter!5 -
Oh I am not worrying but surely I am allowed 24 hours celebrating before I worry we havent signed anyoneclb74 said:
Why we still worrying about all things Roland.SE7toSG3 said:I am really enjoying the gradual collapse of all things RD and this is just another prick in the wall.
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He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.23
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Is that for real?kentaddick said:He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.
I would pay good money to hear the last installment of GTKTN if they are going to get some meat on the bones from both sides.9 -
I had a look, yeah it is.carly burn said:
Is that for real?kentaddick said:He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.
I would pay good money to hear the last installment of GTKTN if they are going to get some meat on the bones from both sides.
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Its true. He does have documented evidence, some of it photographic.kentaddick said:He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.
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He knew what was coming so jumped before he was pushed:
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Probably means he lives in Shoreditch.stonemuse said:
Pathetic isn’t it ... he hasn’t got a clue.Anna_Kissed said:Capitalist Hippie ?!?
Ta ta, son.
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He's officially GOOONNNE
That jumped up little twat who wrecked Powell's squad and poisoned our recruitment process
Who gave us a revolving door of utter rubbish most of whom should never have had the privelige of wearing the shirt
Whose big signings now play for massive teams like CFR Cluj and Altinordu and glittering leagues like Romanian Div 1.
Who had the gall to post a picture of himself with the play-off trophy like he played any part in it (other than the initial relegation that got us there)
He's GONE. BYE THOMAS. You'll never work in football again. You won't be missed. Thanks for absolutely f--- all.
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If he's genuinely going to appear on GTKTN then respect on that front, sort of.kentaddick said:He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.0 -
Given the quality of many of their signings / clients, he and MDH could form a perfect partnership.0
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So young Tommy's version of events V Chris Powell/Alex Dyers version of events = Comfortable away win7
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T D , was the type kid that got a battering at school and even the teachers ignored it.1
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He's going to reveal that he selected playing targets by tossing cards with players names on down his stairs and selecting those that landed on the special step marked with the Charlton crest. He told Roland that he had complex algorithms based on player stats etc but his real method saved much more time, gave him a sense of superiority over those at the club who had half-a-clue and allowed himself a chuckle at the Presidents expense.kentaddick said:He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.0 -
PaddyP17 said:
If he's genuinely going to appear on GTKTN then respect on that front, sort of.kentaddick said:He’s said to jimmy stone that he’ll appear on the final episode of “getting to know the network”. Claims he has “evidence of all the things people have lied about”.Don't forget the 'where are they now?' episode in a few years.
Roland working in his disused Motel with his mum upstairs.!!!
Katriene a few years into a 5 year stretch at Royal HollowayDreisen making big moves in the music industry (guitar hero on PlayStation) when he's not out in his skateboard with his friend.
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Bye bye you fuck arse weasel,make sure your bedroom door doesnt hit you on the backside on your way out7
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I'm definitely interested in hearing what he has to say. Theres a tendency to blame him for all bad signings and give credit for any good signings to anyone else involved at the time. His connection to RD, as well as a general opposition by many to any statistic based analysis means he is on a hiding to nothing.Theres no doubt many of the players brought in during the early Roland years were poor, but how much of that is strictly because he chose bad players, how much of it was due to a lack of understanding of the standard of the Championship, and how much was due to restrictions on funding put in place by RD.There were definitely some decent players in his time, Igor had his difficulties with injuries but he was clearly talented. JBG is playing in the Premier League. Paddy Bauer scored one of the most important goals in recent Charlton history. I have no idea how much involvement he had in these signings or others, but potentially he could do a decent job identifying talent as part of a proper recruitment structure. He definitely shouldn't be given final say on signings, but if he had a role looking for under the radar players and passing on recommendations then that could work.I suspect hes probably due more credit than he has traditionally been given, but I also suspect he won't do himself any favours by speaking publicly cos he comes across as cocky prick who will try to give himself credit for any good signings and pass off any bad signings as someone elses fault.22
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I think your last two lines sum up Driesen perfectly, el-pietro.3
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But isn't that just why you don't let a know nothing decide rather than the former England player you employ as manager.el-pietro said:I'm definitely interested in hearing what he has to say. Theres a tendency to blame him for all bad signings and give credit for any good signings to anyone else involved at the time. His connection to RD, as well as a general opposition by many to any statistic based analysis means he is on a hiding to nothing.Theres no doubt many of the players brought in during the early Roland years were poor, but how much of that is strictly because he chose bad players, how much of it was due to a lack of understanding of the standard of the Championship, and how much was due to restrictions on funding put in place by RD.There were definitely some decent players in his time, Igor had his difficulties with injuries but he was clearly talented. JBG is playing in the Premier League. Paddy Bauer scored one of the most important goals in recent Charlton history. I have no idea how much involvement he had in these signings or others, but potentially he could do a decent job identifying talent as part of a proper recruitment structure. He definitely shouldn't be given final say on signings, but if he had a role looking for under the radar players and passing on recommendations then that could work.I suspect hes probably due more credit than he has traditionally been given, but I also suspect he won't do himself any favours by speaking publicly cos he comes across as cocky prick who will try to give himself credit for any good signings and pass off any bad signings as someone elses fault.
Getting the right fit is as, if not more, important than getting a good player. Many, many choices just weren't ready or suited but Driesen didn't care.
As it was many of the players had already failed at other network clubs and we're just recycled to Sparrows lane without even telling Powell let alone considering if they'd fit.22 -
Anyone who thinks his photo with the playoff trophy wasn’t made public with the sole purpose of winding up Charlton fans is as deluded as the previous owner when he employed him. For that reason alone he’s unfit for purpose, that’s without all the rest of the stunts.12
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I think you just need to re-read that leaked email that RD sent to Powell where he mentions how his 'scouts' analysed the players and playing system and concluded that our current players were 'below average'.el-pietro said:I'm definitely interested in hearing what he has to say. Theres a tendency to blame him for all bad signings and give credit for any good signings to anyone else involved at the time. His connection to RD, as well as a general opposition by many to any statistic based analysis means he is on a hiding to nothing.Theres no doubt many of the players brought in during the early Roland years were poor, but how much of that is strictly because he chose bad players, how much of it was due to a lack of understanding of the standard of the Championship, and how much was due to restrictions on funding put in place by RD.There were definitely some decent players in his time, Igor had his difficulties with injuries but he was clearly talented. JBG is playing in the Premier League. Paddy Bauer scored one of the most important goals in recent Charlton history. I have no idea how much involvement he had in these signings or others, but potentially he could do a decent job identifying talent as part of a proper recruitment structure. He definitely shouldn't be given final say on signings, but if he had a role looking for under the radar players and passing on recommendations then that could work.I suspect hes probably due more credit than he has traditionally been given, but I also suspect he won't do himself any favours by speaking publicly cos he comes across as cocky prick who will try to give himself credit for any good signings and pass off any bad signings as someone elses fault.
In this email RD specifically refers to the 'scout who was heavily involved in this exercise' who essentially 'knows more than Powell' and made the decisions on which players we should sell (Kermogrant), and which players we should play (Thuram obviously). I am going to assume that Scout was Driesen, and I don't think he deserves any credit for any of that.
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Prefer him not to have anything to do with us ever again. No matter what the role.el-pietro said:I'm definitely interested in hearing what he has to say. Theres a tendency to blame him for all bad signings and give credit for any good signings to anyone else involved at the time. His connection to RD, as well as a general opposition by many to any statistic based analysis means he is on a hiding to nothing.Theres no doubt many of the players brought in during the early Roland years were poor, but how much of that is strictly because he chose bad players, how much of it was due to a lack of understanding of the standard of the Championship, and how much was due to restrictions on funding put in place by RD.There were definitely some decent players in his time, Igor had his difficulties with injuries but he was clearly talented. JBG is playing in the Premier League. Paddy Bauer scored one of the most important goals in recent Charlton history. I have no idea how much involvement he had in these signings or others, but potentially he could do a decent job identifying talent as part of a proper recruitment structure. He definitely shouldn't be given final say on signings, but if he had a role looking for under the radar players and passing on recommendations then that could work.I suspect hes probably due more credit than he has traditionally been given, but I also suspect he won't do himself any favours by speaking publicly cos he comes across as cocky prick who will try to give himself credit for any good signings and pass off any bad signings as someone elses fault.
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I would LOVE to chat to this bloke. There’s so much I’d like to hear his side of, particularly signings he agreed to/forced on us. Bergdich, Nego, etc I’d love to know more about but most importantly....................PETR PARZYCEK!!3
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I definitely thnk thats right. As I said, theres nothing wrong with having him (Or others like him) identify talent. There should be someone experienced making the final call, but at the same time you want them on the same page, looking for similar attributes). Theres no way a kid like Driesen could have known enough about Charlton or the Championship to know if a player had the right attitude etc to fit. As for recycling, that comes down to Duchatelet being a cheap skate surely? Same with his managers. He didn't want to right any "investment" off.Henry Irving said:
But isn't that just why you don't let a know nothing decide rather than the former England player you employ as manager.el-pietro said:I'm definitely interested in hearing what he has to say. Theres a tendency to blame him for all bad signings and give credit for any good signings to anyone else involved at the time. His connection to RD, as well as a general opposition by many to any statistic based analysis means he is on a hiding to nothing.Theres no doubt many of the players brought in during the early Roland years were poor, but how much of that is strictly because he chose bad players, how much of it was due to a lack of understanding of the standard of the Championship, and how much was due to restrictions on funding put in place by RD.There were definitely some decent players in his time, Igor had his difficulties with injuries but he was clearly talented. JBG is playing in the Premier League. Paddy Bauer scored one of the most important goals in recent Charlton history. I have no idea how much involvement he had in these signings or others, but potentially he could do a decent job identifying talent as part of a proper recruitment structure. He definitely shouldn't be given final say on signings, but if he had a role looking for under the radar players and passing on recommendations then that could work.I suspect hes probably due more credit than he has traditionally been given, but I also suspect he won't do himself any favours by speaking publicly cos he comes across as cocky prick who will try to give himself credit for any good signings and pass off any bad signings as someone elses fault.
Getting the right fit is as, if not more, important than getting a good player. Many, many choices just weren't ready or suited but Driesen didn't care.
As it was many of the players had already failed at other network clubs and we're just recycled to Sparrows lane without even telling Powell let alone considering if they'd fit.
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FishCostaFortune said:
I think you just need to re-read that leaked email that RD sent to Powell where he mentions how his 'scouts' analysed the players and playing system and concluded that our current players were 'below average'.el-pietro said:I'm definitely interested in hearing what he has to say. Theres a tendency to blame him for all bad signings and give credit for any good signings to anyone else involved at the time. His connection to RD, as well as a general opposition by many to any statistic based analysis means he is on a hiding to nothing.Theres no doubt many of the players brought in during the early Roland years were poor, but how much of that is strictly because he chose bad players, how much of it was due to a lack of understanding of the standard of the Championship, and how much was due to restrictions on funding put in place by RD.There were definitely some decent players in his time, Igor had his difficulties with injuries but he was clearly talented. JBG is playing in the Premier League. Paddy Bauer scored one of the most important goals in recent Charlton history. I have no idea how much involvement he had in these signings or others, but potentially he could do a decent job identifying talent as part of a proper recruitment structure. He definitely shouldn't be given final say on signings, but if he had a role looking for under the radar players and passing on recommendations then that could work.I suspect hes probably due more credit than he has traditionally been given, but I also suspect he won't do himself any favours by speaking publicly cos he comes across as cocky prick who will try to give himself credit for any good signings and pass off any bad signings as someone elses fault.
In this email RD specifically refers to the 'scout who was heavily involved in this exercise' who essentially 'knows more than Powell' and made the decisions on which players we should sell (Kermogrant), and which players we should play (Thuram obviously). I am going to assume that Scout was Driesen, and I don't think he deserves any credit for any of that.Yeah the entire system was a disaster. From the outside looking in Driesen appears to have been given too much decision making power. Thats not entirely his fault, though it does highlight his overconfidence/cockiness.That doesn't mean there weren't some interesting ideas that if implemented in a better system with more oversight by experienced football people who understand the championship and Charlton in particular couldn't have worked.0
