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The burnt bomber

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  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,234
    [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]only a very small minority of looneys mate, doesn't take much to make chaos while the overwhelming majority of good citizens suffer.

    So its a good job they appear to be a bunch of amateurs incapable of setting off bombs!

    its grim travelling into London at the moment but the sight of the dogs and police at the stations is a comforting sight. you cant let it bother you tho can you - else you wouldnt go to work.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,122
    [cite]Posted By: T[/cite]
    Besides I think it's nothing more than a ploy by the Brown government conspiricy to cut down on Doctors waiting lists... how many old dears are going to not bother going to see their Doctors of foreign extraction becuase they 'might be bombers'?!

    Not funny.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    I don't find the police presence in anyway reassuring personally.

    :)
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    With 90% burns he's on borrowed time, however keeping him alive means we can potentially extract some useful information out of him - names of other people in his cell etc.

    In any case doctors (and nurses??) sign the hippocratic oath, to treat everyone regardless of who they are. Britain has a problem with Islamic backed terrorists, as much as anything this is a war of values and hearts and minds. We have to demonstrate that we are above petty vindictiveness.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,122
    [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]I don't find the police presence in anyway reassuring personally.

    :)

    Nor do I, if some nutbag wants to fill his car with bombs and drive it into a building a copper and his dog are not going to be much help. Saying that I don't walk around worried about it all.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    me neither.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    its grim travelling into London at the moment but the sight of the dogs and police at the stations is a comforting sight. you cant let it bother you tho can you - else you wouldnt go to work.

    .................

    They are mostly there for show - to give the impression that the government is on the ball and taking things seriously, remember the tanks at Heathrow airport a few years ago? More worringly I see the heavy handed police response as a precursor to a further "necessary" reduction in civil liberties, but perhaps that is a matter for another thread.
  • Ledge
    Ledge Posts: 7,179
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Apart from the humanitarian issue which I agree with, surely we have a better chance of finding out about the plot, the contacts etc if he survives than if he dies?

    Did try to make that point earlier, but the blood lust is in full swing on here


    they have got the other bloke that was with him so why worry - get the info off him.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    I don't tend to get angry about these things. Bizzarrely I save that for Sky customers 'services'..
  • T
    T Posts: 1,349
    "they have got the other bloke that was with him so why worry - get the info off him."

    ... but they might have different knowledge to one another.

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  • Charlton Dan
    Charlton Dan Posts: 4,937
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]I'd hope that our doctors and nurses were more professional than that and treated them like any other patient despite whatever they may think of the individual.

    Agree with Ben and WSS on this.

    Do we expect our Army Medics not to treat enemy casualties with due care and attention.......

    Lets get him better and then bang him up for a long time and let "the sisters" give him as much punishment as they see fit...

    Wizard's sleeve springs to mind!!
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,122
    [cite]Posted By: CharltonDan[/cite]

    Agree with Ben and WSS on this.

    Do we expect our Army Medics not to treat enemy casualties with due care and attention.......

    Yes.
    [cite]Posted By: CharltonDan[/cite]
    Lets get him better and then bang him up for a long time and let "the sisters" give him as much punishment as they see fit...

    In his own personal cell, with a nice TV, a few video games and being kept away from anyone who might cause him harm, all at the tax payers expense.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    the opportunity to get any information out of him is a bonus to be hoped for, but I hope he gets his just deserts from the criminal courts not from our doctors and nurses lowering themselves and failing to treat him properly.

    I would hate for them, and by extension us, to be become dehumanized like the terrorists - now that would be a real victory for them.
  • MCS
    MCS Posts: 8,404
    Dan, you been to prison lately?? I have a couple of pals just come out, and i can tell ya there wasnt any 'sisters' there, and they both had a stevie in the cell, with a friggin freeview box aswell. Macdonalds cheseburgers on order, and spliffs every night without getting caught in 2 years! I say throw them in the sewer!
  • pete_tong1
    pete_tong1 Posts: 2,653
    Its good to see that our own (UK) Doctors who are white, black, brown etc.. subjects are finding it hard to get jobs when these Iraqi gets medical jobs straight away our politions really look after their own, white black, brown etc.. dont they.

    From the 'ilk' and the melt.
  • T
    T Posts: 1,349
    I didn't realise there were any Doctors out of work? Or finding it hard to get jobs?

    I thought we were horribly understaffed in that area thus they were all overworked, which is why we were encoraging Doctors to come to the country.
  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,184
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Apart from the humanitarian issue which I agree with, surely we have a better chance of finding out about the plot, the contacts etc if he survives than if he dies?

    Do you really think someone who is willing to blow himself up for his cause is suddenly going to change his mind and blab all the secrets he knows?

    No chance though if he's dead. At least some chance if he stays alive.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,175
    T's comment about old ladies might be in bad taste, but there is a ring of truth about it, I can quite imagine my Mum and her cronies being exactly like that!
  • pete_tong1
    pete_tong1 Posts: 2,653
    Wrong T the government ballsed up big time on this doctors are leaving their studies to no jobs and we all know why. Thats why about a month ago people were demanding the then minister of health patrica hewitt (New Labour) to resign.

    Lucky for those MP's that us Brits dont cause a fuss about things.
  • T
    T Posts: 1,349
    Pete_tong1 - Christ didn't know that. just Googled it... the whole problem being the online recruitment thing, the fact there are jobs there and people who want to fill them but because the IT system being set up by monkeys they are unable to do so... what a joke!

    I thought even with the system, i thought we still weren't training/have medical staff which is why i have an Iranian doctor, Egyptian Dentist and the nurses that help them both are Nigerian.


    Algarve - I guess the only bad taste was the Brown conspiracy part, and appologies to anyone offended. My point is we will have this mass hysteria and to a biggoted minority and this will have an effect on the way they go about their day.

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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,175
    I wan't offended personally T, and I agree totally about the bigots, sadly I think they are a very significant minority, whose numbers increase every time an incident like this happens. I have all sorts of people from all over the country in my pub, and the number of conversations which quickly turn to "Don't blame you for leaving the country, all these bloody foreigners..." blah blah blah.

    I have perfected the art of the fixed smile and ability to resist the temptation to say "No, the reason I left the country was because of people like you...".
  • T
    T Posts: 1,349
    Hahaha... thats quality. I'd love to say that at least once!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,276
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]

    I have perfected the art of the fixed smile and ability to resist the temptation to say "No, the reason I left the country was because of people like you...".

    Spot on P, spot on.
  • Charlton Dan
    Charlton Dan Posts: 4,937
    Admin - Why does anything slightly controversial like this or the Glasgow bombings get sunk?

    Why is this site turning into the online MB equivalent of Ken Livingston?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,276
    Freedom of speech blah. blah, blah, PC gone mad, blah, blah, blah,
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,876
    edited July 2007
    [cite]Posted By: CharltonDan[/cite]Admin - Why does anything slightly controversial like this or the Glasgow bombings get sunk?

    Because mate this is primarily a football site. We're not here to offer what's right and wrong in the world, because people have very different views on what those should be, and it generally sets a bad vibe, gets dominated by those with strong opinions, extreme views, or prone to exaggeration.

    Sadly when emotive issues like this get discussed, thee is always a negative or aggressive angle that materialises with it. If people really want to discuss issues such as this, there are thousands of places on the web that are much more dedicated and appropriate to it then a site dedicated to Charlton, and hoping to pull a community together that will be positive for the club and us.

    Of course it goes off topic here all the time, that's natural, and we've no desire to change that or say that's wrong. Just don't want this place to turn into a contraversial sounding off board about 'all that's wrong in the world'. That's all.

    [/quote][cite] Why is this site turning into the online MB equivalent of Ken Livingston?[/quote]

    Please let me know what exactly is a message board equivalent to Ken Livingstone is, because its not something i would want to be associated with. If what i said above and the reasons for it make it that in your eyes, then i don't understand.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,907
    Neeeee Naaawwwww, Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Naaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,876
    3 minutes Offy, you're getting quicker picking up on these !

    mind you, its still pre-pub....
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,907
    [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]3 minutes Offy, you're getting quicker picking up on these !

    mind you, its still pre-pub....

    Thank you. I must say, now that I've found it, I am VERY impressed with the faciltity on this website that sends you an email whenever a particular person has posted or whenever there is a post on a subject you have flagged up.

    I've currently got my settings on "AFKA" and the word "Sink"
    ;o)
  • Charlton Dan
    Charlton Dan Posts: 4,937
    "online MB equivalent of Ken Livingston" is meant to express that if anything slightly risque is being discussed, such as Islamic Fundamentalists, then everything is quietened up in fear of offence.........Its bollox Smudge! These idiots are attempting to bully us into their way of thinking and just sticking ones head in the sand is not the way to face it.

    I thought this site was set up for a sense of community?

    Communities have the right to discuss issues that effect them, whether they're the pros and cons of signing Freddie Eastwood or some nutter trying to blow himself and 100 innocent people up. If these issues are emotive and people disagree then that's fine (as long as its done in an adult fashion). One doesn't learn to accept another persons point of view without that differing point of view being expressed.

    The world, and this MB, would be a boring place if we all agreed on everything and didn't get the chance to talk about anything more emotive than the cost of Palace away........

    PS Please don't ban me for disagreeing with you ;-)

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