Sooo.... we asked who is paying for the new seat configuration...as if we needed to ask :-)
Thank you for your email requesting details of the London Stadium seating contract which has been passed to me for response.
E20 Stadium LLP have appointed Arena to provide a system, and are working with them to complete the design prior to as final decision to go ahead.
The new seating system is for the north and south stands and are expect to cost under £5 million to design and purchase. The purchase costs will be met by E20 Stadium LLP as the owner of London Stadium.
You rightly point out that it is very expensive to move the current seats. The new system is part of several ‘spend to save’ initiatives designed to help drive down stadium operating costs. The costs of the investment should be recouped over a 4-year period as the system will allow us to move seats more quickly between event modes, is easier to store, and is more flexible for a wider range of events.
The new system should also improve the experience for spectators by moving the seats up to 4m closer to the pitch and improve the current segregation line.
Sooo.... we asked who is paying for the new seat configuration...as if we needed to ask :-)
Thank you for your email requesting details of the London Stadium seating contract which has been passed to me for response.
E20 Stadium LLP have appointed Arena to provide a system, and are working with them to complete the design prior to as final decision to go ahead.
The new seating system is for the north and south stands and are expect to cost under £5 million to design and purchase. The purchase costs will be met by E20 Stadium LLP as the owner of London Stadium.
You rightly point out that it is very expensive to move the current seats. The new system is part of several ‘spend to save’ initiatives designed to help drive down stadium operating costs. The costs of the investment should be recouped over a 4-year period as the system will allow us to move seats more quickly between event modes, is easier to store, and is more flexible for a wider range of events.
The new system should also improve the experience for spectators by moving the seats up to 4m closer to the pitch and improve the current segregation line.
Results all went Wet Sham’s way this weekend with Bournemouth, Villa and Watford all losing. Hope they don’t go and get something from Liverpool. It would be just like the smelly sods to do so.
Apologies if it's already been asked but what would be the impact to E20 stadium (the taxpayer) if they did go down? I seem to remember reading something about their rent reducing if they got relegated.
Apologies if it's already been asked but what would be the impact to E20 stadium (the taxpayer) if they did go down? I seem to remember reading something about their rent reducing if they got relegated.
Apologies if it's already been asked but what would be the impact to E20 stadium (the taxpayer) if they did go down? I seem to remember reading something about their rent reducing if they got relegated.
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
That’s exactly how Leeds got themselves into big trouble in the early 2000s.
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
About as stupid as you can get IMO.
Any idea why E20 are not trying to get a higher rent if they make beneficial improvements? Especially as the WH board are under pressure.
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
Amazed that anyone will lend the money considering their league position
One of those transactions that increasingly looks shit for every party to it. Quite incredible really. Would have all been better off tearing it down after the Olympics.
Have hammers mates, who loved the Boleyn, hate the Olympic. I have been to Boleyn many times, proper ground.
Feel sympathy, as not the fans fault - some of my mates only go to away games now - not good ...
Anyways, not that bothered, would love to beat them next season at The Valley 👍 and the Olympic.
Can't say that it's not their fault: no protests before moving and no initiative about doing anything to improve the situation since. They've had it too cosy. Relegation might spring them into action.
I was just looking at some images of the stadium and it really is dreadful, the site lines are just too shallow, you would be utterly away from the action and at completely the wrong angle to watch.
If you compare it to the stadio olympico ion Rome, those seats are far more acute, you are over the action, you are capable of getting a much before view of the game, I think the only option has to be demolition and start again, but you certainly can't do that from the championship, and in truth the financial risk is very real and significant, a club like Spurs can, a club like West Ham, not so much.
A real shame in many ways, as they treated us very well when we ground shared all those years ago, my more spiteful side is enjoying it, sure, but in reality it's a pretty dire state of affairs.
Karen Brady has scrounged much more money from tax payers than the biggest benefits scrounger and she doesn't bat an eyelid. I genuinely find it incredible.
5-0 defeat tonight would be nice so they drop a place on goal difference.
Also bit of a shitter for their fans. A few days after a midweek trip to Manchester, they have to do another night trip up north again. Harsh on the regular travellers.
After this though, their next 5 games are all in London.
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
About as stupid as you can get IMO.
Any idea why E20 are not trying to get a higher rent if they make beneficial improvements? Especially as the WH board are under pressure.
They did squeeze a bit more out of them in an agreement which came into force about a year ago, but nowhere near enough. They missed a chance to say to West Ham, you want the extra seats? OK give up the retractable seats, as they cost the taxpayer a fortune each year. But that would have required a lot of bottle, especially with Boris Johnson in high office. The current E20 CEO, Lyn Garner, is nevertheless far better than any previous incumbents.
We still need to get to the bottom of these U23 matches, though. That's going to be in the return email to Mr Skewis, another new name to me in the E20 setup.
Looking ahead I worry that any Mayor other than Khan will bottle it and sell the thing off to West Ham for a cut price.
Not as if they'll make any money from staging a reserve game in a 60k stadium.
We, the taxpayer will be paying for all of the facilities & services that are used during the match. I do not believe that it was part of the original contract either.
Isnt the issue that the contract was based on the stadium only being used by them for 21 days a year (first team games only) or something, Of course that was bull from the start due to them putting the temporary seats in which cant be moved and prevent other uses of the stadium. they also have their Wet Spam colours/badges and shit all over the stadium permanently and corporate facilities and offices are used by them permanently (i think).
Using the ground for training as they have done and U23 matches would probably force them to admit they use it for more than the 21 days a year so could easily be argued they owe higher rent.
West Ham are 22-1 to win tonight on Betfair. Biggest price I've ever seen for a Prem game.
I saw those odds yesterday and thought the same so had a quick look for longer odds in Premier League games. Cardiff away to Man City last April were 35/1 which is the longest i could see after a quick google.
Sooo.... we asked who is paying for the new seat configuration...as if we needed to ask :-)
Thank you for your email requesting details of the London Stadium seating contract which has been passed to me for response.
E20 Stadium LLP have appointed Arena to provide a system, and are working with them to complete the design prior to as final decision to go ahead.
The new seating system is for the north and south stands and are expect to cost under £5 million to design and purchase. The purchase costs will be met by E20 Stadium LLP as the owner of London Stadium.
You rightly point out that it is very expensive to move the current seats. The new system is part of several ‘spend to save’ initiatives designed to help drive down stadium operating costs. The costs of the investment should be recouped over a 4-year period as the system will allow us to move seats more quickly between event modes, is easier to store, and is more flexible for a wider range of events.
The new system should also improve the experience for spectators by moving the seats up to 4m closer to the pitch and improve the current segregation line.
Regards
Alan Skewis
Director
E20 Stadium LLP
Just caught up with this update at lunchtime. Well done @PragueAddick and all concerned...and I'll include myself in that for spotting the throwaway line in a recent newspaper article saying they were moving the seating ;-)
Any plans to make this info more widely available?
Cheeky sods though - dressing it up as a "Spend to Save" initiative! I've got a better idea, make the anchor tenant pay their whack first...
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
That’s exactly how Leeds got themselves into big trouble in the early 2000s.
Let's hope that West Ham learned a big lesson from the debacle of Leeds United's senior management throughout at that process.
(And if they haven't, I have some lovely tropical fish I would be prepared to rent to them).
Not as if they'll make any money from staging a reserve game in a 60k stadium.
We, the taxpayer will be paying for all of the facilities & services that are used during the match. I do not believe that it was part of the original contract either.
It's that, but more, too.
It was much trumpeted by -who else - Johnson that this "wonderful deal" would be profitable from day one because West Ham would only use it 25 days a year, so E20 would hold lots of other lovely money-spinning events, maybe even have another club there. This was arrant bollocks as he well knew, and as we finally discovered when the contract was finally revealed to we who fund its inherent losses. In the contract, it stipulates that either side of the match day West Ham are allowed 24 hours to set up and take down. So that's 75 days at least. And could be more depending on how many games they play in the Champions League Carabao Cup. But it gets worse because of Sky's habit of playing games on different days at short notice, so the event calendar has to block off lots of other days until Sky have clarified their intentions. This has meant that in the footie season the pitch is virtually unrentable for anything significant with advance planning and sales.
Of course that in turn means that nobody else wants it on any given week, so it would not be unreasonable for the U23s to play there. Sure. If the club pays....
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Thank you for your email requesting details of the London Stadium seating contract which has been passed to me for response.
E20 Stadium LLP have appointed Arena to provide a system, and are working with them to complete the design prior to as final decision to go ahead.
The new seating system is for the north and south stands and are expect to cost under £5 million to design and purchase. The purchase costs will be met by E20 Stadium LLP as the owner of London Stadium.
You rightly point out that it is very expensive to move the current seats. The new system is part of several ‘spend to save’ initiatives designed to help drive down stadium operating costs. The costs of the investment should be recouped over a 4-year period as the system will allow us to move seats more quickly between event modes, is easier to store, and is more flexible for a wider range of events.
The new system should also improve the experience for spectators by moving the seats up to 4m closer to the pitch and improve the current segregation line.
Regards
Alan Skewis
Director
E20 Stadium LLP
I also learnt (from the Price of Football podcast, highly recommended) that West Ham have been funding their recent spending spree by borrowing against future TV revenue...
think about the implications of that for a moment....
Any idea why E20 are not trying to get a higher rent if they make beneficial improvements? Especially as the WH board are under pressure.
Have hammers mates, who loved the Boleyn, hate the Olympic. I have been to Boleyn many times, proper ground.
Feel sympathy, as not the fans fault - some of my mates only go to away games now - not good ...
Anyways, not that bothered, would love to beat them next season at The Valley 👍 and the Olympic.
If you compare it to the stadio olympico ion Rome, those seats are far more acute, you are over the action, you are capable of getting a much before view of the game, I think the only option has to be demolition and start again, but you certainly can't do that from the championship, and in truth the financial risk is very real and significant, a club like Spurs can, a club like West Ham, not so much.
A real shame in many ways, as they treated us very well when we ground shared all those years ago, my more spiteful side is enjoying it, sure, but in reality it's a pretty dire state of affairs.
Also bit of a shitter for their fans. A few days after a midweek trip to Manchester, they have to do another night trip up north again. Harsh on the regular travellers.
After this though, their next 5 games are all in London.
We still need to get to the bottom of these U23 matches, though. That's going to be in the return email to Mr Skewis, another new name to me in the E20 setup.
Looking ahead I worry that any Mayor other than Khan will bottle it and sell the thing off to West Ham for a cut price.
Not as if they'll make any money from staging a reserve game in a 60k stadium.
Using the ground for training as they have done and U23 matches would probably force them to admit they use it for more than the 21 days a year so could easily be argued they owe higher rent.
Cardiff away to Man City last April were 35/1 which is the longest i could see after a quick google.
Battered.
Any plans to make this info more widely available?
Cheeky sods though - dressing it up as a "Spend to Save" initiative! I've got a better idea, make the anchor tenant pay their whack first...
(And if they haven't, I have some lovely tropical fish I would be prepared to rent to them).
It was much trumpeted by -who else - Johnson that this "wonderful deal" would be profitable from day one because West Ham would only use it 25 days a year, so E20 would hold lots of other lovely money-spinning events, maybe even have another club there. This was arrant bollocks as he well knew, and as we finally discovered when the contract was finally revealed to we who fund its inherent losses. In the contract, it stipulates that either side of the match day West Ham are allowed 24 hours to set up and take down. So that's 75 days at least. And could be more depending on how many games they play in the Champions League Carabao Cup. But it gets worse because of Sky's habit of playing games on different days at short notice, so the event calendar has to block off lots of other days until Sky have clarified their intentions. This has meant that in the footie season the pitch is virtually unrentable for anything significant with advance planning and sales.
Of course that in turn means that nobody else wants it on any given week, so it would not be unreasonable for the U23s to play there. Sure. If the club pays....