Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.
I agree, but I think it’s one of those ‘if you haven’t been through it..’ things that people on here love.
When did he realise he was gay? When did he lie to his wife? Can you offer a quote on what his wife said about feeling as though she’s wasted 27 years?
Presumably you and @CharltonByBlood know the answers to those questions?
Listening to him on Radio 5 he discussed it in a very sensitive manner and it seemed their family unit was doing their best to deal with everyone's issues. He certainly wasn't being glib.
Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.
I agree, but I think it’s one of those ‘if you haven’t been through it..’ things that people on here love.
When did he realise he was gay? When did he lie to his wife? Can you offer a quote on what his wife said about feeling as though she’s wasted 27 years?
Presumably you and @CharltonByBlood know the answers to those questions?
What? How the hell would I know those answers??
You said that you agreed to this statement:
“Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.”
So I’m asking you both how you know he lied for 27 years, how you know his wife feels like her life was wasted, and how much his life was a lie?
Surely you’d know in order to make these judgment calls?
Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.
I agree, but I think it’s one of those ‘if you haven’t been through it..’ things that people on here love.
When did he realise he was gay? When did he lie to his wife? Can you offer a quote on what his wife said about feeling as though she’s wasted 27 years?
Presumably you and @CharltonByBlood know the answers to those questions?
Listening to him on Radio 5 he discussed it in a very sensitive manner and it seemed their family unit was doing their best to deal with everyone's issues. He certainly wasn't being glib.
He’s absolutely not being glib, and everything he’s said today is clearly from the heart - although I’m not particularly into the public airing side of it, but I wouldn’t ordinarily watch daytime tv which is what he does - I’m more interested in the reaction side of this stuff. The cynicism on here and other forms of social media is to be expected, but no less saddening.
Let's not turn this into an attack on people that don't understand it. It's sometimes hard to see things from both sides.
At the moment he's said he had to live with this for 27 years. People will draw conclusions from that.
I don't understand how you could live that lie that he did. I'm very open and honest about my life and the difficulties I had in my early teens and the depression I have suffered on and off since my teens.
Obviously though that wasn't race, sexuality or religion. The three key areas that make people feel unsafe in being open and honest within themselves.
Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.
I agree, but I think it’s one of those ‘if you haven’t been through it..’ things that people on here love.
When did he realise he was gay? When did he lie to his wife? Can you offer a quote on what his wife said about feeling as though she’s wasted 27 years?
Presumably you and @CharltonByBlood know the answers to those questions?
What? How the hell would I know those answers??
You said that you agreed to this statement:
“Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.”
So I’m asking you both how you know he lied for 27 years, how you know his wife feels like her life was wasted, and how much his life was a lie?
Surely you’d know in order to make these judgment calls?
Do you know what a statement is? I agreed with the question. I also don’t think it’s that brave.
Let's not turn this into an attack on people that don't understand it. It's sometimes hard to see things from both sides.
At the moment he's said he had to live with this for 27 years. People will draw conclusions from that.
I don't understand how you could live that lie that he did. I'm very open and honest about my life and the difficulty my and depression I have suffered since my teens.
Obviously though that wasn't race, sexuality or religion. The three key areas that make people feel unsafe in being open and honest within themselves.
Probably because he was a very prominent kids tv presenter that both kids and parents loved and the world was a completely different place then to what it is now. He then, I imagine felt under pressure to conform so got married, had children and using assumption, buried his feelings.
If I'm totally honest I didn't even know he was married until all this came out this morning and assumed he was gay anyway.
I still remember tabloid newspapers having headlines about Michael Barrymore like 'BARRYMORE MY GAY SHAME' so any wavering thoughts a lot of people may have had about coming out, because that's something else the world put upon gay people, they had to announce they were gay whereas nowadays hardly anyone gives a shit anymore than noticing someone has a lot of tattoos or ginger hair.
At that point he's been married, had children and managed to repress himself so much as a national tv treasure it must have become impossible to then announce he had been living a lie rightly or wrongly.
At a guess some shitrag tabloid has probably got something on him so he has had to do what he's done today. Or he has simply not been able to repress his own feelings any longer. Fair play to him, sounds like his wife and children have got his back and have had the understanding and emotional maturity to support him. Must be hard for them if they had only just found out, or they all knew and loved him for who he is.
Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.
I agree, but I think it’s one of those ‘if you haven’t been through it..’ things that people on here love.
When did he realise he was gay? When did he lie to his wife? Can you offer a quote on what his wife said about feeling as though she’s wasted 27 years?
Presumably you and @CharltonByBlood know the answers to those questions?
What? How the hell would I know those answers??
You said that you agreed to this statement:
“Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.”
So I’m asking you both how you know he lied for 27 years, how you know his wife feels like her life was wasted, and how much his life was a lie?
Surely you’d know in order to make these judgment calls?
Do you know what a statement is? I agreed with the question. I also don’t think it’s that brave.
It’s a rhetorical question and you’re using semantics to avoid explaining why you think that rhetorical question is justified.
I have a friend who stumbled across her husband's gay porn sites on their ipad - after nearly 25 years of marriage. Fair to say she is still recovering from the shock (three years later) that her whole adult life was based on someone else's lie. Meanwhile he is off and happily shacked up with his boyfriend while she hesitates at the idea of internet dating in her early 50s. Pretty tragic, actually.
Perhaps it’s Because the country’s most prominent daytime presenter, decided to announce he was gay to the nation on the country’s most prominent daytime show whilst being interviewed by the country’s most loved female tv presenter.
Perhaps it’s Because the country’s most prominent daytime presenter, decided to announce he was gay to the nation on the country’s most prominent daytime show whilst being interviewed by the country’s most wanked over female tv presenter.
It’s his wife who I feel sorry for more than anything. I respect Schofield for coming out as gay but if he was gay why did he marry or have her as a long term girlfriend? I just find that selfish from Schofield’s part.
I feel if you’re gay, transgender or anything else then you should live your life as how you are and not fight it and affect everyone else.
Yesterday was Time to Talk Awareness Day. Mate of mine wrote a very brave blog yesterday on the internal communications forum about how being totally open about his sexuality and having a supportive family, he experienced bullying and how this continued to have an adverse effect on his mental health on an ongoing basis and any setback would spark negative thoughts and self doubt, whilst putting on the obligatory brave face. Eventually it all became too much, and felt he had to reach out to someone that despite everything seeming fine on the surface, he was struggling to the point of the worst degree. Maybe it's pure coincidence but maybe Phillip has used some form of mental health advocacy to be the catalyst for his feeling comfortable to talk openly having had so much pent up for such a long time. Genuinely hope he feels so much more comfortable with not surpressing his feelings any more, can carry on being a good Dad and be a similar example as not just Gareth Thomas (who did his first interview upon going public accompanied by his wife on This Morning coincidentally) but to anyone that has emotions of any kind pent up that it's OK to be human, not feel you have to live up to perceived expectations, that the facade can prove more detrimental on the long run and talking openly within whichever comfort zone you initially have, professionally or personally, can ultimately be the best thing to do, even if it doesn't feel like it at the time. Good luck to him. So coming back full circle, if yesterday's awareness day proved a catalyst for Phillip Schofield to talk, hopefully it will inspire many more to recognise it's not a sign of weakness to want to talk and let someone how you really feel. Different circumstances but personal experience recognised now how powerful talking can be.
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“Why is he being celebrated for lying for 27 years of marriage, wasting a big chunk of his wife's life and living a lie? Nothing brave about that at all.”
So I’m asking you both how you know he lied for 27 years, how you know his wife feels like her life was wasted, and how much his life was a lie?
At the moment he's said he had to live with this for 27 years. People will draw conclusions from that.
I don't understand how you could live that lie that he did. I'm very open and honest about my life and the difficulties I had in my early teens and the depression I have suffered on and off since my teens.
Obviously though that wasn't race, sexuality or religion. The three key areas that make people feel unsafe in being open and honest within themselves.
If I'm totally honest I didn't even know he was married until all this came out this morning and assumed he was gay anyway.
I still remember tabloid newspapers having headlines about Michael Barrymore like 'BARRYMORE MY GAY SHAME' so any wavering thoughts a lot of people may have had about coming out, because that's something else the world put upon gay people, they had to announce they were gay whereas nowadays hardly anyone gives a shit anymore than noticing someone has a lot of tattoos or ginger hair.
At that point he's been married, had children and managed to repress himself so much as a national tv treasure it must have become impossible to then announce he had been living a lie rightly or wrongly.
At a guess some shitrag tabloid has probably got something on him so he has had to do what he's done today. Or he has simply not been able to repress his own feelings any longer. Fair play to him, sounds like his wife and children have got his back and have had the understanding and emotional maturity to support him. Must be hard for them if they had only just found out, or they all knew and loved him for who he is.
It won't stop people trying to understand it all as it's been forced into the public eye.
The reverse snowflakery joke is a winner though and never gets old. Ha ha ha
Fair play to him, must have been very difficult. Feel for his wife.
I feel if you’re gay, transgender or anything else then you should live your life as how you are and not fight it and affect everyone else.
1. I never knew it was Phillip with 2 L’s
2. Ricky Otto has 37k LOLs
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So coming back full circle, if yesterday's awareness day proved a catalyst for Phillip Schofield to talk, hopefully it will inspire many more to recognise it's not a sign of weakness to want to talk and let someone how you really feel. Different circumstances but personal experience recognised now how powerful talking can be.