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How Do We 'Get At It' For Luton?

Mendonca In Asdas
Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,675
in General Charlton
Any ideas?
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  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 379
    The crowd will 'get at it' when they see the players 'getting at it.' Simples.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,838
    We always bounce back after a dire performance in the next game. We'll beat Luton.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,675
    addick19 said:
    The crowd will 'get at it' when they see the players 'getting at it.' Simples.
    I didn't mean us, i meant the players!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,796
    You get the team right in terms of creativity - if we have the players available. Then you don't try to chase the game but win the battles and take it from there. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,751
    Luton are bottom three for a reason. 
    Pick an attacking midfield and go for it.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,816
    edited February 2020
    I would like to see us start without two defensive minded midfielders, or if we have Davis/Pratley and Cullen on, give Cullen license to get forwards more like he did in that game against Reading. 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,686
    FishCostaFortune said:
    I would like to see us start without two defensive minded midfielders, or if we have Davis/Pratley and Cullen on, give Cullen license to get forwards more like he did in that game against Reading. 
    Cullen got forward properly once yesterday that I recall and his shot was well saved by Walton.

    My impression in the immediate aftermath yesterday was that we were well beaten but on reflection Walton did keep them in it with some decent saves.

    Overall though I have to say through gritted teeth that Blackburn deserved to win.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,783
    The way to beat Luton is not to disrespect them due to their league position. They've just won their last two matches. When we did that back in August, everyone's confidence was flying.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,135
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    We always bounce back after a dire performance in the next game. We'll beat Luton.
    3 wins in 21 suggests we don't bounce back very well.

    For me we need to start with Williams or if he's not fit then Oztumer. We badly missed an attacking midfielder to link play between midfield and the front 2. I'd also start Bonne instead of Hemed.

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,796
    edited February 2020
    We did. I think Davies is ok, but you put a bit of flair and creativity in and around him if you can. Smith may improve, but at the moment he gives us nothing. I'd rather have Morgan playing.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Bows can start by not putting such a defensive team out.
  • E_cafc
    E_cafc Posts: 2,617
    If the players can't raise themselves for a crucial relegation battle then we have a bigger problem than we thought. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Play your best 11 players in their positions every week, stop all this fucking about with the team, the players need to put their bodies on the line for the next 13 games without being wrapped in cotton wool.

      
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,895
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Callumcafc said:
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
    Well he should have played him yesterday then, Bower, Southall and everyone else at the club have all been urging us to snap up the tickets for the Blackburn game, get The Valley rocking and make some noise.

    What's the point if you stick out a team you know is weak from the off.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,098
    eaststandmike said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
    Well he should have played him yesterday then, Bower, Southall and everyone else at the club have all been urging us to snap up the tickets for the Blackburn game, get The Valley rocking and make some noise.

    What's the point if you stick out a team you know is weak from the off.
    Beating Luton is more important than beating Blackburn.
    So I think Bowyer has not taken any chances with injuries to ensure we have the best possible 11 for next week.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,796
    edited February 2020
    Whilst I want us to play on the front foot, we will have to be patient against Luton. Let's just have some creativity in the side. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Covered End said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
    Well he should have played him yesterday then, Bower, Southall and everyone else at the club have all been urging us to snap up the tickets for the Blackburn game, get The Valley rocking and make some noise.

    What's the point if you stick out a team you know is weak from the off.
    Beating Luton is more important than beating Blackburn.
    So I think Bowyer has not taken any chances with injuries to ensure we have the best possible 11 for next week.
    Maybe they should have made the game v Luton a fiver a pop then, they cannot have it both ways.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,098
    eaststandmike said:
    Covered End said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
    Well he should have played him yesterday then, Bower, Southall and everyone else at the club have all been urging us to snap up the tickets for the Blackburn game, get The Valley rocking and make some noise.

    What's the point if you stick out a team you know is weak from the off.
    Beating Luton is more important than beating Blackburn.
    So I think Bowyer has not taken any chances with injuries to ensure we have the best possible 11 for next week.
    Maybe they should have made the game v Luton a fiver a pop then, they cannot have it both ways.
    Sorry Mike but Lee Bowyer doesn't select his team based on the ticket price of the game and nor should he. 

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Covered End said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Covered End said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
    Well he should have played him yesterday then, Bower, Southall and everyone else at the club have all been urging us to snap up the tickets for the Blackburn game, get The Valley rocking and make some noise.

    What's the point if you stick out a team you know is weak from the off.
    Beating Luton is more important than beating Blackburn.
    So I think Bowyer has not taken any chances with injuries to ensure we have the best possible 11 for next week.
    Maybe they should have made the game v Luton a fiver a pop then, they cannot have it both ways.
    Sorry Mike but Lee Bowyer doesn't select his team based on the ticket price of the game and nor should he. 
    I was not suggesting that CE, however I still think he makes too many changes, that game yesterday was winnable, it will all be for nothing if we lose against Luton. 
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,484
    Learn how to past a ball to a red shirt would be a good start.
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Any ideas?

    Yeah, they'll be drinking in the Angerstein Arms from around 12, so we head down on the train to Westcombe Park around 11:45.  Once there we'll surround the boozer, put the windows in then steam in there and get at them!  
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    That is what you meant, right??
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,466

    Go back to the back 4, and play full backs, not wing backs. Pack out the midfield and press from the get-go. Cullen, Pratley and Williams/Oz will need to work their socks off. 

    Would go with Williams but not sure on fitness, so Oz may need to fill in which I wouldn't mind too much, thought he was decent enough against Forest and surprised he didn't get minutes on Saturday.

    Doughty needs to be further up the pitch, he has too many defensive frailties to be playing LWB in my opinion.  

    Start like this:

                    Phillips

    Matthews Lockyer Sarr Purrington

              Pratley       Cullen

    Green    Williams/Oztumer    Doughty.

                       Taylor  


    Have the options of Bonne/Hemed/Chuks/McGeady on the bench.


  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,288
    Think we desperately missed Pratley on Saturday, but we need to make sure we are attacking and go to win the game from the first whistle. We can’t go with a back 3/5 in this one, Luton play the diamond so we either match them up, which I think we will, or we go with 5 in midfield but with players capable of getting forward and easily adjusted into a diamond.

    We need a bench that includes Aneke, and overall attacking options throughout the squad of Taylor, Green, Bonne, Williams, Oztumer, McGeady, Aneke. Might seem too attacking for some but we are too vulnerable in defence too often. We are capable of putting in a great defensive display, see Fulham for a recent example, but in a game like this where Luton have conceded 66 goals, an attacking impetus will allow the crowd to get behind the them from the off and aim to kill the game by half time.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,298
    eaststandmike said:
    Covered End said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Covered End said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bowyer will go back to the starting XI that beat Barnsley (Oztumer in for Williams if he isn't fit) and we will win comfortably.
    Well he should have played him yesterday then, Bower, Southall and everyone else at the club have all been urging us to snap up the tickets for the Blackburn game, get The Valley rocking and make some noise.

    What's the point if you stick out a team you know is weak from the off.
    Beating Luton is more important than beating Blackburn.
    So I think Bowyer has not taken any chances with injuries to ensure we have the best possible 11 for next week.
    Maybe they should have made the game v Luton a fiver a pop then, they cannot have it both ways.
    Sorry Mike but Lee Bowyer doesn't select his team based on the ticket price of the game and nor should he. 
    I was not suggesting that CE, however I still think he makes too many changes, that game yesterday was winnable, it will all be for nothing if we lose against Luton. 
    just remind me how many changes we made from the win at Notts Forest? 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,406
    we are so inconsistent .. constant team changes don't help, the result of too many injuries and perhaps too much tinkering ..
     Luton had a good win on Saturday. Like us they are inconsistent, thankfully, even more so than we are  ..  they have won 3 out of the last 5 .. they have a speedy attack, a decent midfield but a defence that seems to switch off at the worst possible moments.
    To beat them we need to attack them from the off and to stop making terrible fuck ups in defence .. a similar performance as v Forest should do it .. pretty straightforward really ((:>)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,796
    We are not good enough to be consistent, but that applies to a few clubs in this league.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,816
    I would like to see the diamond, as I want to see us push Cullen further forwards when we have the ball. However with Gallagher out I struggle to see who plays the left side of that diamond. I thought Davies was meant to be a bit more dynamic then Pratley, but I've not really seen that yet. Think Smith could potentially play there, and would love to see Williams but not sure he is robust enough.


    If Williams was I would like to see:
                     
                      Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Sarr Purrington
                      Pratley
                Cullen   Williams
                      Oztumer
                   Green Taylor

    Amos, Deji, Doughty, McGeady, Aneke, Hemed, Bonne 

    That pivot of Cullen, Williams and Oztumer would play some nice ball foot I reckon.

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