Most of our team are journeymen and we're set up negatively. We're reliant on scraping wins.
Journeyman ??? Wow.....what is your definition of a journeyman and of the players that we had in the team last night which of those fall under that category. In fact I will give you a chance and offer you the ful squad
Of those who played last night I'd say everyone bar Phillips and Taylor could be classified as journeymen.
It just makes me laugh that people jump to the extremes.
Last night we had People calling for Bowyer to be sacked at the end of the season and for Davis to never play again. It is draining to read such negativity.
I must state that I am not permanently in rose tinted glasses. I do think we have a lot of overreactions to both wins and losses. Funny thing is, it's often the same people...
The following things are what I'm not happy with this season. - The ongoing injury crisis. I use ongoing because we've still got - The transfer window was piss poor. We all expected more than what we got. ESI clearly miscalculated the extent of our needs. - Frustratingly we have set up to draw a number of games from the start this season, which only started happening during the injury crisis and it has cost us a few times since, last night being a prime example. - Bowyer is making naive decisions fairly regularly now and very quickly needs to figure out his back up plans in games.
I will await @Brown59 to come in and create a proper negative thread, calling for ESI & Charlton Athletic to be disbanded and liquidised and basically piss all over my 14 chips.
Some of the abuse Bowyer getting last night and the new board who've been here 5 minutes...just imagine where we'd be now if Bowyer had walked and ESI never arrived.
ESI have done zero to warrant anyone's praise at this point.
it's always a bit like that on here after a kick in the teeth type defeat, but there are some people of whom I'd expect better, who seem to have completely lost it.
It wasn't a good performance. No doubt about that. But:
1. "We set up too defensive/ for a point". Well 4-4-2 away today isn't considered "defensive" normally. A problem was that Bonne started for the first time in ages, and he and Taylor need to strike up a partnership. Who among the critics was calling for Hemed? Who thought starting Green was obviously better than starting Bonne?
2. What about the midfield that would create all those openings? The available player in that role was Oztumer, basically. That's it. The other option was to try and get Doughty forward down the flank, but as the Valley Pass lads spotted early, Wednesday set up very well to cut off that route, and as a kid, Doughty didn't have the nous to out-think them. (and his control let him down sometimes)
3. Was that midfield selection Bowyer's "fault"? Williams got a freak injury, but the much bigger problem was the disgraceful removal of Gallagher due to the activities of his agent (and Swansea are really challenging at the top, aren't they?. FFS).
4. And now to this shit about ESI "not spending". Do none of you look at what happens beyond your own noses? The biggest transfer fee splashed by a Champ club this window was £1m. That was Bristol City, with cash in the bank and the transfer was widely expected. Even in the FAPL the window was very quiet. You cannot be successful in a market if there isn't sufficient supply in the market, do you not understand that?
That's not to say I am convinced ESI have the money. But I am convinced they did the best they could in that dead window. "The best they could" means somehow, half way through, dealing with having Chelsea (or elements within Chelsea) doing the dirty on them. If there was another Conor Gallagher available, he would have been snapped up way before mid January, by someone else.
5. Bowyer started with the lowest salary budget in the league. I doubt it has much changed as a result of the window. All studies by people with brains and a bit more than a video game at their disposal, show that there is a close correlation between playing budget and final league position. So far Bowyer therefore has been massively over-performing.
6. Of course it wasn't just the playing budget. Whatever the revisionism now about our autumn performances ( @oohaahmortimer, I'm calling you out mate), many dispassionate commentators described our injury list as "biblical", and since Bow has had something like a squad again (but still a great big hole in midfield) we've started winning some games again. The whole medical/training set up is on a 3rd division budget like everything else. You think Bowyer's happy with that? You blame ESI for that?
So get a grip. Get an effing grip. Anyone who wants to be negative, be negative with me, but make sure you've got your arguments together, and don't give me any "happy clappy" nonsense. But FFS give Bowyer a break. You want someone to scapegoat, go for Gallagher's agent. We'd have attacked, and won that game, with Conor in midfield last night, of course we would.
Rant over. Available for arguments at various times during the day :-)
We don't have a particularly strong squad and on top of that have had a bad time with injuries. We will do well to stay up and that would certainly be a good achievement for LB.
My god, I get that people are rightly sick after another disappointing performance and result, but the speed and depth of spite some people turn against is truly awful to witness.
Can understand why the paid people in this game show so little loyalty when fans can turn against so easily.
Like spoilt entitled children on here past few months.
Want Roland gone but ESI have failed already
Want cheap tickets but want us to spend millions on players
Want us to spend millions on players and crowds at the valley that allow us to do so but then moanfest over football for a fiver crowds
No engagement from Duchatelet, Southall tweets too much
Dunno what everyone expects...load of strangers to come in to our catastrophe of a club and in a couple of months gamble all their millions in a notoriously bad window.
Honestly some comments come across as so brattish and entitled
Some of the abuse Bowyer getting last night and the new board who've been here 5 minutes...just imagine where we'd be now if Bowyer had walked and ESI never arrived.
Win everything is rosy, lose and everyone and everything is a cunt. Like petulant children some of you.
Grab hold of your bollocks if you can find them and stop the spleen shitting and poor us entitled mentality and get some perspective of the situation and why we are where we are today beyond the short termism 90 minutes/ 2months view.
One thing that I think does rightly need to come under questioning is these increasing ‘shithouse’ tactics in the 2nd half to wind the clock down.
Its increasingly seeming that if we are winning, or even drawing away, we adopt a mentality from midpoint in the 2nd half to stop chasing the game and make everything about containment, frustration and time wasting.
Where is this coming from? Is it being installed as a directive tactic from management, or is it a collective approach the players have taken on themselves in their on field game management?
what surprises me is I went to a Q&A with Gobbo and he was proudly exclaiming his pride at being a master in the time wasting dark arts, and that he had Bowyer next to him constantly wanting to be more offensively positive, wanting to turn a draw into a victory etc.
So what has changed and brought in this mentality? Is it borne from a gut feeling that defensively we are just too weak, cannot avoid conceding goals (which would explain the desire to plug in front with supporting blockers like Davis and Oshilaja) and the game needs to be slowed and frustrated? And that it works sometimes (Notts Forest) but kicks you at others (last night).
Most of our team are journeymen and we're set up negatively. We're reliant on scraping wins.
Journeyman ??? Wow.....what is your definition of a journeyman and of the players that we had in the team last night which of those fall under that category. In fact I will give you a chance and offer you the ful squad
Of those who played last night I'd say everyone bar Phillips and Taylor could be classified as journeymen.
Not the young players, they've hardly started on the journey! And not Cullen, surely? On the other hand when Taylor came to us, he was the very epitome of a journeyman. I don't recall a single Lifer predicting him becoming a talisman who would still be our best player, a division higher.
Got no time for people that want Bowyer gone or players to never wear the shirt again, but football is an emotive sport and we put our hopes in 1 man and his squad of players. If they keep making the same mistakes then they are not above criticism, which for the most part, has been completely justified.
Also this thread was posted at about 5am after 2 hours sleep with a few issues swirling round in my head... So I fully acknowledge my own original post was made in a weird delirious state and I don't recommend anyone coming on CL in the sleep deprived state I was in, especially after a defeat, that somehow still flattered us.
4. And now to this shit about ESI "not spending". Do none of you look at what happens beyond your own noses? The biggest transfer fee splashed by a Champ club this window was £1m. That was Bristol City, with cash in the bank and the transfer was widely expected. Even in the FAPL the window was very quiet. You cannot be successful in a market if there isn't sufficient supply in the market, do you not understand that?
But then no other club had been taken over between the August and January windows. Under Roland we had the lowest budget in the division, so there was an expectation of some activity just to bring us up to the level of other "struggling" clubs, as generally the clubs with the lowest budget in the Championship get relegated.
Indeed while Green is probably costing us more than Leko in terms of wages, as we've lost Ledley, our wage bill after January is still basically the Roland wage bill from August.
I was at the game, yes it was disappointing of course.....although Wednesday deserved to win there was also a feeling that in the end we deserved something from the game and to lose in such a fashion, having got to the final few seconds seemed truly unjust. Two key players in Williams and now Sarr out is still having a huge impact on team selection....dare I say it but I think with those two in the side last night we’d have come away with at least a point. No hiding it though, it was a pretty poor display.
Also this thread was posted at about 5am after 2 hours sleep with a few issues swirling round in my head... So I fully acknowledge my own original post was made in a weird delirious state and I don't recommend anyone coming on CL in the sleep deprived state I was in, especially after a defeat, that somehow still flattered us.
That is the point. if we have a bit of a go and lost,
nobody will be angry but to go out there against a team that clearly were not confident and play in such a way that you give them coinfidence, well it is criminally poor judgement and management. To actually think a point is a good result given the circumstances and the form of the opposition is simply pathetic. The other teams at the bottom are picking up because they are having a go.
It was pretty clear to me that Bowyer had something and there are enough historical posts to back up what I say. But he has turned into a back foot clueless manager like Slade. Not a problem with playing that way when half your team is out, but we should not be playing that way now. It doesn't suit us. After Stoke I said I would give him another chance,sorry Lee but last night was the final chance. Absolutely nothing to do with results, if we lose and are positive I will forgive, but if I see one more display like that I will be at the front of the Bowyer out queue.
I get you are angry but bowyer out is ridiculous.
If he keeps making the same basic mistake it isn't ridiculous. I am not in that camp but one more performance and set up like last night (except against Leeds or Brentford) and I will be firmly in it. Another manager and I would already be firmly in it. His away tactics are relegation tactics with the squad we have.
Against Leeds?
If we're safe by then, we need to go for it in that fixture...
If we're not safe by then, we need to go for it in that fixture...
If we're already relegated by then, we may as well go for it in that fixture...
Literally of all the fixtures, why would you want us to set up as we did last night in our last game of the season?
Had we given it a serious go last night then Wednesday could well have opened us up even more than they did and could have scored more than the one
The reason its technically three points rather than two is because of our Goal Difference compared with everyone else, if we start attacking more away from home then I fully expect the GD to get worse which could be vital come the end of the season, especially with so few points between six / seven teams
But however good your goal difference, it is never worth more than half a point at the end of the season. Win one, lose one instead of two draws and you'll finish higher even if GD is worse.
This means we keep our WLWLWL form of the last 6 games.
W vs Huddersfield L vs Boro W vs Hull L vs QPR W vs Cardiff L vs Millwall W vs Brentford L vs Reading W vs Birmingham L vs Wigan W vs Leeds
4. And now to this shit about ESI "not spending". Do none of you look at what happens beyond your own noses? The biggest transfer fee splashed by a Champ club this window was £1m. That was Bristol City, with cash in the bank and the transfer was widely expected. Even in the FAPL the window was very quiet. You cannot be successful in a market if there isn't sufficient supply in the market, do you not understand that?
But then no other club had been taken over between the August and January windows. Under Roland we had the lowest budget in the division, so there was an expectation of some activity just to bring us up to the level of other "struggling" clubs, as generally the clubs with the lowest budget in the Championship get relegated.
Indeed while Green is probably costing us more than Leko in terms of wages, as we've lost Ledley, our wage bill after January is still basically the Roland wage bill from August.
I don't see how that negates my main point. For virtually every club, the conclusion was that the right players at a sensible price were just not available. Not for us, not for Leeds, not for West Brom, etc. The market was dead.
To the wage bill we have also added Davis, McGeady (not cheap by all accounts) and Smith. We also offered a new deal to Taylor, which he declined to sign, and we offered to match what Swansea are paying for Gallagher.
6. Of course it wasn't just the playing budget. Whatever the revisionism now about our autumn performances ( @oohaahmortimer, I'm calling you out mate), many dispassionate commentators described our injury list as "biblical", and since Bow has had something like a squad again (but still a great big hole in midfield) we've started winning some games again. The whole medical/training set up is on a 3rd division budget like everything else. You think Bowyer's happy with that? You blame ESI for that?
I don’t know what you’re calling me out for , I’ve not been convinced about us all season , the results were beyond all dreams at the beginning but the stats (as a numbers man) made me feel we weren’t as good as results suggest . injuries added to our downfall and our best Loaned player going elsewhere but even with the returning players I’m not convinced about us right here right now , Barnsley we werent that great , Luton could have turned on a lino call and forest making 6 changes helped us big time . i always lean towards the negative side but I say as I see , I called us getting to the play off final most of the last third of the season (admittedly I expected defeat ) we have a cheap Roland infested squad and it didn’t improve in January and why buy a football club if you wanna run a sensible non loss making business , this isn’t the place to be . Roland is partially gone , let’s get him fully gone and safe or down that’s a reason to celebrate .
One thing that I think does rightly need to come under questioning is these increasing ‘shithouse’ tactics in the 2nd half to wind the clock down.
Its increasingly seeming that if we are winning, or even drawing away, we adopt a mentality from midpoint in the 2nd half to stop chasing the game and make everything about containment, frustration and time wasting.
Where is this coming from? Is it being installed as a directive tactic from management, or is it a collective approach the players have taken on themselves in their on field game management?
what surprises me is I went to a Q&A with Gobbo and he was proudly exclaiming his pride at being a master in the time wasting dark arts, and that he had Bowyer next to him constantly wanting to be more offensively positive, wanting to turn a draw into a victory etc.
So what has changed and brought in this mentality? Is it borne from a gut feeling that defensively we are just too weak, cannot avoid conceding goals (which would explain the desire to plug in front with supporting blockers like Davis and Oshilaja) and the game needs to be slowed and frustrated? And that it works sometimes (Notts Forest) but kicks you at others (last night).
Or is the mindset just plain wrong?
If Bowyer was telling them not to do it then they wouldn't be doing it to my mind.
Bowyer's recent tactics and team performances should be up
for criticism, no question. But reckon that conflating this with an alleged bad
transfer window, a bad CEO and / or an owner with no money, is bonkers and
being negative for the sake of it.
Also think that some are determined, possibly subconsciously,
for the new regime to come up short just because they’ve predicted it from the
start. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just can’t fathom
how anyone can be of the opinion that Bowyer, MS or ESI still ain’t worth the benefit
of doubt till at least the Summer is over, if not next season (Assuming they
haven’t lied about the 6 month period re’ ownership of The Valley and SL)
As we came to the end of 94 minutes I donned my reading glasses to catch up on the CL comments.
Thirty seconds later SW scored and a nano second after that my glasses hit the wall above the fire place at approximately mach 2. This will remain my only comment on the match.
PS. The glasses are intact, which is pretty good, as they only cost me four quid.
Some of the abuse Bowyer getting last night and the new board who've been here 5 minutes...just imagine where we'd be now if Bowyer had walked and ESI never arrived.
ESI have done zero to warrant anyone's praise at this point.
Yeah, screw the fact that they've signed Bowyer on a long term deal, got Jacko on a new deal, seemingly brought in a more pro-active medical team, engaged where we have been left wanting in the past.
Do share what they have done to deserve any vitriol? Other than not wasting money when we may not have seen any difference in results... Oh and Matt Southall saying he had a 'Super Duper Deals' phone.
Whilst they're not our saviours yet, some people are in my opinion unfairly attacking them.
Talk about an over-reaction! I get worried when normally sensible talk such rubbish, it can become an epidemic. 9 points from 6 games is better than ok. The whole club (including fans) getting behind Bowyer has undoubtably helped the team in the last year. Let's keep positive (and by the way you can defend positively, being positive doesn't mean attacking) COYR
6. Of course it wasn't just the playing budget. Whatever the revisionism now about our autumn performances ( @oohaahmortimer, I'm calling you out mate), many dispassionate commentators described our injury list as "biblical", and since Bow has had something like a squad again (but still a great big hole in midfield) we've started winning some games again. The whole medical/training set up is on a 3rd division budget like everything else. You think Bowyer's happy with that? You blame ESI for that?
I don’t know what you’re calling me out for , I’ve not been convinced about us all season , the results were beyond all dreams at the beginning but the stats (as a numbers man) made me feel we weren’t as good as results suggest . injuries added to our downfall and our best Loaned player going elsewhere but even with the returning players I’m not convinced about us right here right now , Barnsley we werent that great , Luton could have turned on a lino call and forest making 6 changes helped us big time . i always lean towards the negative side but I say as I see , I called us getting to the play off final most of the last third of the season (admittedly I expected defeat ) we have a cheap Roland infested squad and it didn’t improve in January and why buy a football club if you wanna run a sensible non loss making business , this isn’t the place to be . Roland is partially gone , let’s get him fully gone and safe or down that’s a reason to celebrate .
Why should you have been "convinced" in the autumn? We had the lowest budget in the division, and we had Duchatelet. It was an effing miracle that until injuries hit, we were top half. (according to the stats). What about West Brom and Fulham away, and Leeds, to name two that i watched the full 90 of?
Most of our team are journeymen and we're set up negatively. We're reliant on scraping wins.
Journeyman ??? Wow.....what is your definition of a journeyman and of the players that we had in the team last night which of those fall under that category. In fact I will give you a chance and offer you the ful squad
Of those who played last night I'd say everyone bar Phillips and Taylor could be classified as journeymen.
Not the young players, they've hardly started on the journey! And not Cullen, surely? On the other hand when Taylor came to us, he was the very epitome of a journeyman. I don't recall a single Lifer predicting him becoming a talisman who would still be our best player, a division higher.
I'm just talking about the current level not what players may or may not achieve in the future. Taylor and Phillips were the only two players who played last night who I'd say weren't journeymen. I'm still not convinced by Cullen but obviously others are.
By journeyman I mean a player who is solid but doesn't excel.
If Barnsley didn't have a go at Fulham they would be dead and buried.
If Luton played for a 0-0 with Brentford they are out of the running.
If Wigan doesn't get at Reading early and win the game they are in big trouble.
If we did not have a go at Sheff Wednesday away (2-3) back in 2015 we would have gone down.
So what do we do? 5 at the back against a shit side who have not scored in 2020 at home. I'm sorry but if we are going to operate like that in this league, then what is the point in being in it?!
I as well as most, cheer the boys on as much as we can, but we have every right to be negative. If it was not LB in charge and say, for example, Karl Robinson there would be much more hate for performances like that.
I know we have had it tough with injuries what is the excuse for shit like that last night as well as Stoke away and Bristol City away another example. 0-1 up against 10 men and we go way too defensive and loose 2-1
While results like Forrest away etc are all well and good, some of our away performances this season have been terrible. Winning the ball back and having 2 players in the attacking half is not championship football, it's shit. I feel sorry for those that went up there last night, deserved so much more. 2 away wins since August? how can we see that is clearly something to do with 5 at the back.
Talk about an over-reaction! I get worried when normally sensible talk such rubbish, it can become an epidemic. 6 points from 6 games is better than ok. The whole club (including fans) getting behind Bowyer has undoubtably helped the team in the last year. Let's keep positive (and by the way you can defend positively, being positive doesn't mean attacking) COYR
6 points from 6 games would extrapolate to 46 points over this season , it won’t be enough to keep you up
Some of the abuse Bowyer getting last night and the new board who've been here 5 minutes...just imagine where we'd be now if Bowyer had walked and ESI never arrived.
ESI have done zero to warrant anyone's praise at this point.
Just out of interest, what could any new owner have done to warrant praise (Not that I think they're getting overly praised anyway) at this point in their ownership and this point of the season?
As we came to the end of 94 minutes I donned my reading glasses to catch up on the CL comments.
Thirty seconds later SW scored and a nano second after that my glasses hit the wall above the fire place at approximately mach 2. This will remain my only comment on the match.
PS. The glasses are intact, which is pretty good, as they only cost me four quid.
I shared your pain, hope the wall is not damaged 😉.
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Of those who played last night I'd say everyone bar Phillips and Taylor could be classified as journeymen.
It just makes me laugh that people jump to the extremes.
Last night we had People calling for Bowyer to be sacked at the end of the season and for Davis to never play again. It is draining to read such negativity.
I must state that I am not permanently in rose tinted glasses. I do think we have a lot of overreactions to both wins and losses. Funny thing is, it's often the same people...
The following things are what I'm not happy with this season.
- The ongoing injury crisis. I use ongoing because we've still got
- The transfer window was piss poor. We all expected more than what we got. ESI clearly miscalculated the extent of our needs.
- Frustratingly we have set up to draw a number of games from the start this season, which only started happening during the injury crisis and it has cost us a few times since, last night being a prime example.
- Bowyer is making naive decisions fairly regularly now and very quickly needs to figure out his back up plans in games.
I will await @Brown59 to come in and create a proper negative thread, calling for ESI & Charlton Athletic to be disbanded and liquidised and basically piss all over my 14 chips.
It wasn't a good performance. No doubt about that. But:
1. "We set up too defensive/ for a point". Well 4-4-2 away today isn't considered "defensive" normally. A problem was that Bonne started for the first time in ages, and he and Taylor need to strike up a partnership. Who among the critics was calling for Hemed? Who thought starting Green was obviously better than starting Bonne?
2. What about the midfield that would create all those openings? The available player in that role was Oztumer, basically. That's it. The other option was to try and get Doughty forward down the flank, but as the Valley Pass lads spotted early, Wednesday set up very well to cut off that route, and as a kid, Doughty didn't have the nous to out-think them. (and his control let him down sometimes)
3. Was that midfield selection Bowyer's "fault"? Williams got a freak injury, but the much bigger problem was the disgraceful removal of Gallagher due to the activities of his agent (and Swansea are really challenging at the top, aren't they?. FFS).
4. And now to this shit about ESI "not spending". Do none of you look at what happens beyond your own noses? The biggest transfer fee splashed by a Champ club this window was £1m. That was Bristol City, with cash in the bank and the transfer was widely expected. Even in the FAPL the window was very quiet. You cannot be successful in a market if there isn't sufficient supply in the market, do you not understand that?
That's not to say I am convinced ESI have the money. But I am convinced they did the best they could in that dead window. "The best they could" means somehow, half way through, dealing with having Chelsea (or elements within Chelsea) doing the dirty on them. If there was another Conor Gallagher available, he would have been snapped up way before mid January, by someone else.
5. Bowyer started with the lowest salary budget in the league. I doubt it has much changed as a result of the window. All studies by people with brains and a bit more than a video game at their disposal, show that there is a close correlation between playing budget and final league position. So far Bowyer therefore has been massively over-performing.
6. Of course it wasn't just the playing budget. Whatever the revisionism now about our autumn performances ( @oohaahmortimer, I'm calling you out mate), many dispassionate commentators described our injury list as "biblical", and since Bow has had something like a squad again (but still a great big hole in midfield) we've started winning some games again. The whole medical/training set up is on a 3rd division budget like everything else. You think Bowyer's happy with that? You blame ESI for that?
So get a grip. Get an effing grip. Anyone who wants to be negative, be negative with me, but make sure you've got your arguments together, and don't give me any "happy clappy" nonsense. But FFS give Bowyer a break. You want someone to scapegoat, go for Gallagher's agent. We'd have attacked, and won that game, with Conor in midfield last night, of course we would.
Rant over. Available for arguments at various times during the day :-)
Definitely want LB to be in charge.
Its increasingly seeming that if we are winning, or even drawing away, we adopt a mentality from midpoint in the 2nd half to stop chasing the game and make everything about containment, frustration and time wasting.
Where is this coming from? Is it being installed as a directive tactic from management, or is it a collective approach the players have taken on themselves in their on field game management?
what surprises me is I went to a Q&A with Gobbo and he was proudly exclaiming his pride at being a master in the time wasting dark arts, and that he had Bowyer next to him constantly wanting to be more offensively positive, wanting to turn a draw into a victory etc.
So what has changed and brought in this mentality? Is it borne from a gut feeling that defensively we are just too weak, cannot avoid conceding goals (which would explain the desire to plug in front with supporting blockers like Davis and Oshilaja) and the game needs to be slowed and frustrated? And that it works sometimes (Notts Forest) but kicks you at others (last night).
Or is the mindset just plain wrong?
So I fully acknowledge my own original post was made in a weird delirious state and I don't recommend anyone coming on CL in the sleep deprived state I was in, especially after a defeat, that somehow still flattered us.
Indeed while Green is probably costing us more than Leko in terms of wages, as we've lost Ledley, our wage bill after January is still basically the Roland wage bill from August.
Two key players in Williams and now Sarr out is still having a huge impact on team selection....dare I say it but I think with those two in the side last night we’d have come away with at least a point.
No hiding it though, it was a pretty poor display.
If we're safe by then, we need to go for it in that fixture...
If we're not safe by then, we need to go for it in that fixture...
If we're already relegated by then, we may as well go for it in that fixture...
Literally of all the fixtures, why would you want us to set up as we did last night in our last game of the season?
We'll be fine!
W vs Huddersfield
L vs Boro
W vs Hull
L vs QPR
W vs Cardiff
L vs Millwall
W vs Brentford
L vs Reading
W vs Birmingham
L vs Wigan
W vs Leeds
To the wage bill we have also added Davis, McGeady (not cheap by all accounts) and Smith. We also offered a new deal to Taylor, which he declined to sign, and we offered to match what Swansea are paying for Gallagher.
injuries added to our downfall and our best Loaned player going elsewhere but even with the returning players I’m not convinced about us right here right now , Barnsley we werent that great , Luton could have turned on a lino call and forest making 6 changes helped us big time .
i always lean towards the negative side but I say as I see , I called us getting to the play off final most of the last third of the season (admittedly I expected defeat )
we have a cheap Roland infested squad and it didn’t improve in January and why buy a football club if you wanna run a sensible non loss making business , this isn’t the place to be .
Roland is partially gone , let’s get him fully gone and safe or down that’s a reason to celebrate .
Bowyer's recent tactics and team performances should be up for criticism, no question. But reckon that conflating this with an alleged bad transfer window, a bad CEO and / or an owner with no money, is bonkers and being negative for the sake of it.
Also think that some are determined, possibly subconsciously, for the new regime to come up short just because they’ve predicted it from the start. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just can’t fathom how anyone can be of the opinion that Bowyer, MS or ESI still ain’t worth the benefit of doubt till at least the Summer is over, if not next season (Assuming they haven’t lied about the 6 month period re’ ownership of The Valley and SL)
Thirty seconds later SW scored and a nano second after that my glasses hit the wall above the fire place at approximately mach 2. This will remain my only comment on the match.
PS. The glasses are intact, which is pretty good, as they only cost me four quid.
Do share what they have done to deserve any vitriol? Other than not wasting money when we may not have seen any difference in results... Oh and Matt Southall saying he had a 'Super Duper Deals' phone.
Whilst they're not our saviours yet, some people are in my opinion unfairly attacking them.
COYR
By journeyman I mean a player who is solid but doesn't excel.