CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
Of course it was a pivotal moment. Under Powell we were a team who could boss a league if we had the right players in, and had proven we could compete if we didn't. We were 3 points off the play-offs in his first Championship season, and we managed to get the the FA Cup Quarter Final and stay within touching distance despite being 4 games in hand all with no years of no investment. That's incredible. When Riga came in we started to perform when he dumped all the Roland dross and played the Powell players who were still fighting. When Riga came back and inherited a Luzon squad he couldn't do anything and we went down with a whimper. With Powell we had potential to be more. With Roland's rotating array of weirdo managers we were always just hoping to survive.
First a really juvenile and unfunny edit of someone’s quote, and now a thread clearly intended to provoke.
All a bit unecessary and out of character. You ok?
The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others.
I'm not sure provoke is the right word. I doubt any Charlton supporter would question that CP is both a legend and a CAFC hero.
The 'Jill Gascoigne RIP' thread has more views than the 'Jason Euell Interview' one, the 'How Many Holes Does a Straw have' has more than 'The Players Need the Fans' and don't even ask about the 'Our Club, Our Future CAST meets Foundations or Hearts' as 'Which car, from TV or the movies, would you most like to own?', the 'Favourite / Worst Smells?' and 'CL Online Chess Tournament' all have more views.
We have 115 years worth of history and I'd rather have a debate Chris Powells 101 season, than know what shade brown North Stand Steves shit is.
I'm fine though, thanks for the concerns.
Really? Doesn't sound like it.
Is that all you could think of to say? How fitting.
As a striker, if you score 15/20 goals in a season and never replicate the feat, does that make you a good striker?
I can think of loads of players who've had one or two good seasons and then vanished in to obscurity.
Really not sure what your point is in any of this to be honest. You've admitted that your original post was done to get a reaction as much as anything else, so suggest you just leave it there.
First a really juvenile and unfunny edit of someone’s quote, and now a thread clearly intended to provoke.
All a bit unecessary and out of character. You ok?
The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others.
I'm not sure provoke is the right word. I doubt any Charlton supporter would question that CP is both a legend and a CAFC hero.
The 'Jill Gascoigne RIP' thread has more views than the 'Jason Euell Interview' one, the 'How Many Holes Does a Straw have' has more than 'The Players Need the Fans' and don't even ask about the 'Our Club, Our Future CAST meets Foundations or Hearts' as 'Which car, from TV or the movies, would you most like to own?', the 'Favourite / Worst Smells?' and 'CL Online Chess Tournament' all have more views.
We have 115 years worth of history and I'd rather have a debate Chris Powells 101 season, than know what shade brown North Stand Steves shit is.
I'm fine though, thanks for the concerns.
Really? Doesn't sound like it.
Is that all you could think of to say? How fitting.
As a striker, if you score 15/20 goals in a season and never replicate the feat, does that make you a good striker?
I can think of loads of players who've had one or two good seasons and then vanished in to obscurity.
Really not sure what your point is in any of this to be honest. You've admitted that your original post was done to get a reaction as much as anything else, so suggest you just leave it there.
What you on about? If you're not sure, then dont post.
This thread has nothing to do with getting a reaction. You have mixed this up with another post!
First a really juvenile and unfunny edit of someone’s quote, and now a thread clearly intended to provoke.
All a bit unecessary and out of character. You ok?
The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others.
I'm not sure provoke is the right word. I doubt any Charlton supporter would question that CP is both a legend and a CAFC hero.
The 'Jill Gascoigne RIP' thread has more views than the 'Jason Euell Interview' one, the 'How Many Holes Does a Straw have' has more than 'The Players Need the Fans' and don't even ask about the 'Our Club, Our Future CAST meets Foundations or Hearts' as 'Which car, from TV or the movies, would you most like to own?', the 'Favourite / Worst Smells?' and 'CL Online Chess Tournament' all have more views.
We have 115 years worth of history and I'd rather have a debate Chris Powells 101 season, than know what shade brown North Stand Steves shit is.
I'm fine though, thanks for the concerns.
Really? Doesn't sound like it.
Is that all you could think of to say? How fitting.
As a striker, if you score 15/20 goals in a season and never replicate the feat, does that make you a good striker?
I can think of loads of players who've had one or two good seasons and then vanished in to obscurity.
Really not sure what your point is in any of this to be honest. You've admitted that your original post was done to get a reaction as much as anything else, so suggest you just leave it there.
What you on about? If you're not sure, then dont post.
This thread has nothing to do with getting a reaction. You have mixed this up with another post!
LOL, Really?
Page two of this thread you said, "The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others."
But as I say, I suggest you just leave it there mate as somethings clearly going on and is not right.
First a really juvenile and unfunny edit of someone’s quote, and now a thread clearly intended to provoke.
All a bit unecessary and out of character. You ok?
The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others.
I'm not sure provoke is the right word. I doubt any Charlton supporter would question that CP is both a legend and a CAFC hero.
The 'Jill Gascoigne RIP' thread has more views than the 'Jason Euell Interview' one, the 'How Many Holes Does a Straw have' has more than 'The Players Need the Fans' and don't even ask about the 'Our Club, Our Future CAST meets Foundations or Hearts' as 'Which car, from TV or the movies, would you most like to own?', the 'Favourite / Worst Smells?' and 'CL Online Chess Tournament' all have more views.
We have 115 years worth of history and I'd rather have a debate Chris Powells 101 season, than know what shade brown North Stand Steves shit is.
I'm fine though, thanks for the concerns.
Really? Doesn't sound like it.
Is that all you could think of to say? How fitting.
As a striker, if you score 15/20 goals in a season and never replicate the feat, does that make you a good striker?
I can think of loads of players who've had one or two good seasons and then vanished in to obscurity.
Really not sure what your point is in any of this to be honest. You've admitted that your original post was done to get a reaction as much as anything else, so suggest you just leave it there.
What you on about? If you're not sure, then dont post.
This thread has nothing to do with getting a reaction. You have mixed this up with another post!
LOL, Really?
Page two of this thread you said, "The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others."
But as I say, I suggest you just leave it there mate as somethings clearly going on and is not right.
Yeah, that had nothing to do with this thread I'm afraid, different convo. Please don't try and get this thread closed by starting a petulant argument that has nothing to do with the topic.
CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
Should be able to let nonsense like this go over my head after 6 years, but it really pisses me off.
Were you not paying attention to the fact that that we were on the verge of administration with a threadbare squad until Christmas? Did you notice when Roland turned up and sold Dale Stephens and Yann Kermogant, brought in a load of rubbish, most of whom barely played for us, and then started telling our manager which players to pick and what formation to play? Could they have been factors in our league position perhaps? Things certainly took a massive upturn after Powell left, culminating with a nice long spell in League 1.
Your post suggest that you're the sort of person that looks at the league table and goes "everyone in the bottom half has got a rubbish manager. They must have, otherwise they'd be top of the table".
First a really juvenile and unfunny edit of someone’s quote, and now a thread clearly intended to provoke.
All a bit unecessary and out of character. You ok?
The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others.
I'm not sure provoke is the right word. I doubt any Charlton supporter would question that CP is both a legend and a CAFC hero.
The 'Jill Gascoigne RIP' thread has more views than the 'Jason Euell Interview' one, the 'How Many Holes Does a Straw have' has more than 'The Players Need the Fans' and don't even ask about the 'Our Club, Our Future CAST meets Foundations or Hearts' as 'Which car, from TV or the movies, would you most like to own?', the 'Favourite / Worst Smells?' and 'CL Online Chess Tournament' all have more views.
We have 115 years worth of history and I'd rather have a debate Chris Powells 101 season, than know what shade brown North Stand Steves shit is.
I'm fine though, thanks for the concerns.
Really? Doesn't sound like it.
Is that all you could think of to say? How fitting.
As a striker, if you score 15/20 goals in a season and never replicate the feat, does that make you a good striker?
I can think of loads of players who've had one or two good seasons and then vanished in to obscurity.
Really not sure what your point is in any of this to be honest. You've admitted that your original post was done to get a reaction as much as anything else, so suggest you just leave it there.
What you on about? If you're not sure, then dont post.
This thread has nothing to do with getting a reaction. You have mixed this up with another post!
LOL, Really?
Page two of this thread you said, "The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others."
But as I say, I suggest you just leave it there mate as somethings clearly going on and is not right.
Yeah, that had nothing to do with this thread I'm afraid, different convo. Please don't try and get this thread closed by starting a petulant argument that has nothing to do with the topic.
Well then I apologise. I read your comment on this thread and naturally assumed you were talking about this thread. Pretty logical really. If you were in fact talking about another thread then maybe you need to be a bit clearer next time, otherwise nobody will have a clue what you're talking about.
First a really juvenile and unfunny edit of someone’s quote, and now a thread clearly intended to provoke.
All a bit unecessary and out of character. You ok?
The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others.
I'm not sure provoke is the right word. I doubt any Charlton supporter would question that CP is both a legend and a CAFC hero.
The 'Jill Gascoigne RIP' thread has more views than the 'Jason Euell Interview' one, the 'How Many Holes Does a Straw have' has more than 'The Players Need the Fans' and don't even ask about the 'Our Club, Our Future CAST meets Foundations or Hearts' as 'Which car, from TV or the movies, would you most like to own?', the 'Favourite / Worst Smells?' and 'CL Online Chess Tournament' all have more views.
We have 115 years worth of history and I'd rather have a debate Chris Powells 101 season, than know what shade brown North Stand Steves shit is.
I'm fine though, thanks for the concerns.
Really? Doesn't sound like it.
Is that all you could think of to say? How fitting.
As a striker, if you score 15/20 goals in a season and never replicate the feat, does that make you a good striker?
I can think of loads of players who've had one or two good seasons and then vanished in to obscurity.
Really not sure what your point is in any of this to be honest. You've admitted that your original post was done to get a reaction as much as anything else, so suggest you just leave it there.
What you on about? If you're not sure, then dont post.
This thread has nothing to do with getting a reaction. You have mixed this up with another post!
LOL, Really?
Page two of this thread you said, "The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others."
But as I say, I suggest you just leave it there mate as somethings clearly going on and is not right.
Yeah, that had nothing to do with this thread I'm afraid, different convo. Please don't try and get this thread closed by starting a petulant argument that has nothing to do with the topic.
Well then I apologise. I read your comment on this thread and naturally assumed you were talking about this thread. Pretty logical really. If you were in fact talking about another thread then maybe you need to be a bit clearer next time, otherwise nobody will have a clue what you're talking about.
I was replying to another post, if you had read the whole thread you would know that, best not to make assumptions. Anyway, no need to apologise, we all love CP and we all love Charlton.
Second best manager of the many we’ve had since Curbs. One of only a few managers we’ve had who won something.
Kept Huddersfield in the Championship who I’m sure would have had one of the smaller budgets at the time. As his replacement overachieved Powell’s seen as having done a bad job there, but another manager may have taken them down.
Didn’t work out at Southend. Not sure what sort of budget he had there, but I’d imagine it would be mid table at best.
He was good for us and had either of the two ownerships he worked for gave him a budget to invest in the squad and keep the likes of Yann and Stephens then I think he’d have put together a squad that would have at least competed in the Championship with a chance of overachieving.
He likely won’t have another season like 11/12 again but he was the right manager at the right time for us and had the summer of 2012 worked out differently a decent budget and the momentum we had could have seen the progress under him continue.
A missed opportunity even if he never experiences success as a manager again.
CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
Should be able to let nonsense like this go over my head after 6 years, but it really pisses me off.
Were you not paying attention to the fact that that we were on the verge of administration with a threadbare squad until Christmas? Did you notice when Roland turned up and sold Dale Stephens and Yann Kermogant, brought in a load of rubbish, most of whom barely played for us, and then started telling our manager which players to pick and what formation to play? Could they have been factors in our league position perhaps? Things certainly took a massive upturn after Powell left, culminating with a nice long spell in League 1.
Your post suggest that you're the sort of person that looks at the league table and goes "everyone in the bottom half has got a rubbish manager. They must have, otherwise they'd be top of the table".
So we got better after Powell left, but the players got worse? So either Riga did a better job than Powell or the squad got better? You can't have it both ways.
League One would have come a season sooner if kept Powell on imo. 6 wins from 32 games. I'd say this team we have now is worse than the team Powell had relative to the standard of the league and Bowyer has managed to pick up 10 wins from 37.
I'm not saying that the appointments at Charlton that followed were good, RD did a terrible job with his manager choices by and large and lucked out by stumbling onto Bowyer. We did at least try for Wilder, which would have been an amazing appointment.
Powell hasn't exactly set the football management scene ablaze.
The time he was here was an exhilarating time to be an Addick and what he achieved was outstanding, particularly when he had to deal with being undermined and sabotaged by others at the club; notleast the Shitweasel himself who destroyed all that he had built for his own ego.
It was great to have a proper Charlton man at the helm who got us, was one of us. Yes, he clearly had his limitations, but compared to his positive qualities they were miniscule.
Quite frankly, I love the man and would love to see him back at the club in some capacity. To me he will always be SCP.
CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
Should be able to let nonsense like this go over my head after 6 years, but it really pisses me off.
Were you not paying attention to the fact that that we were on the verge of administration with a threadbare squad until Christmas? Did you notice when Roland turned up and sold Dale Stephens and Yann Kermogant, brought in a load of rubbish, most of whom barely played for us, and then started telling our manager which players to pick and what formation to play? Could they have been factors in our league position perhaps? Things certainly took a massive upturn after Powell left, culminating with a nice long spell in League 1.
Your post suggest that you're the sort of person that looks at the league table and goes "everyone in the bottom half has got a rubbish manager. They must have, otherwise they'd be top of the table".
So we got better after Powell left, but the players got worse? So either Riga did a better job than Powell or the squad got better? You can't have it both ways.
Don't get so stressed out. x
Riga was in charge for two months and, because he was Roland's yes man, he didn't have Roland on the phone demanding that he play Yohann Thuram_Ulien in goal rather than Hamer or Amos and all the other nonsense that Powell had to put up with. Roland made it impossible for Powell to do his job properly. Nothing at all to do with Powell's ability as a manager. Riga was able to manage without interference, and the squad was able to perform better knowing that their manager wasn't being completely undermined by his boss. It's nothing to do with having it both ways, it's just nothing like as black and white as you're making out.
Sorry, but this particular debate really does stress me out. xxx
Second best manager of the many we’ve had since Curbs. One of only a few managers we’ve had who won something.
Kept Huddersfield in the Championship who I’m sure would have had one of the smaller budgets at the time. As his replacement overachieved Powell’s seen as having done a bad job there, but another manager may have taken them down.
Didn’t work out at Southend. Not sure what sort of budget he had there, but I’d imagine it would be mid table at best.
He was good for us and had either of the two ownerships he worked for gave him a budget to invest in the squad and keep the likes of Yann and Stephens then I think he’d have put together a squad that would have at least competed in the Championship with a chance of overachieving.
He likely won’t have another season like 11/12 again but he was the right manager at the right time for us and had the summer of 2012 worked out differently a decent budget and the momentum we had could have seen the progress under him continue.
A missed opportunity even if he never experiences success as a manager again.
Looking at southern post Powell, it could be argued that he did well to keep them up. Unless the reason they are in a mess now is because of Powell’s signings.
CP gets a lot of respect from us and rightly so (obviously), but the idea that his sacking was a pivotal moment in the history of the club is completely overplayed.
He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
Should be able to let nonsense like this go over my head after 6 years, but it really pisses me off.
Were you not paying attention to the fact that that we were on the verge of administration with a threadbare squad until Christmas? Did you notice when Roland turned up and sold Dale Stephens and Yann Kermogant, brought in a load of rubbish, most of whom barely played for us, and then started telling our manager which players to pick and what formation to play? Could they have been factors in our league position perhaps? Things certainly took a massive upturn after Powell left, culminating with a nice long spell in League 1.
Your post suggest that you're the sort of person that looks at the league table and goes "everyone in the bottom half has got a rubbish manager. They must have, otherwise they'd be top of the table".
So we got better after Powell left, but the players got worse? So either Riga did a better job than Powell or the squad got better? You can't have it both ways.
League One would have come a season sooner if kept Powell on imo. 6 wins from 32 games. I'd say this team we have now is worse than the team Powell had relative to the standard of the league and Bowyer has managed to pick up 10 wins from 37.
I'm not saying that the appointments at Charlton that followed were good, RD did a terrible job with his manager choices by and large and lucked out by stumbling onto Bowyer. We did at least try for Wilder, which would have been an amazing appointment.
Powell hasn't exactly set the football management scene ablaze.
Don't get so stressed out. x
Every other club had played three / four games more than what Powell had achieved by that stage of the season...
Powell should have been judged after those games in hand, especially as we still had to play Barnsley and Yeovil at the Valley
You also need to remember the summer we'd had; Simon Church came in after playing on trial against Ebbsfleet whilst Sordell only joined on loan
He had to deal with losing: Wagstaff | Fuller | Taylor | Wright-Phillips | Button that summer because our backer walked away
It then got worse in the January because some twat came in and gave away Stephens and Kermorgant, remind me who their replacements were that he had to deal with for two months?
That season just wasnt as black and white as its being painted!!
Its a good debate to have and I think its been done a lot over the years.
Would Powell have kept us up if he was kept on? I reckon yes without a doubt. The QPR game is testament to that.
Riga done the job but it wasn't perfect by any stretch, anyone remember the Barnsley home game? Also scraping past a terrible Yeovil team.
I love Powell as much as the next man, but that’s re-writing history. We had won one or two games in about 15 before Powell got sacked. I think it’s a bit much to claim we were just about to burst into a glorious run after that Cup match against Sheffield United. Riga came in and - with the same players and back room staff - kept us up, I really don’t think Powell would have been able to replicate that.
Riga himself commented when he came for the second time how the spirit that he'd seen before had disappeared. That was down to Powell.
And if Riga was a better manager than Powell why did he fail 2nd time round?
Riga did not fail 2nd time, there is no a Manager in the history of the game that could have stopped that shower of a shit show getting relegated. Still finished higher than Robinson though!
A serious opinion. Powell was a terrific manager for us. After a poor start he was able to sign the players he wanted and was given the funds to do so. There probably is the answer. At CAFC Powell was able to choose his own players to play in the way that he wanted. However, like many many managers at a new club, when it came to taking over an ex manager's team, he was not able to get the best from the players he inherited, and perhaps he was not given the resources to build the team that he envisaged. Powell is by no means the first and will not be the last intelligent, articulate, talented man who is all too often unable to get his point across to a bunch of virtual strangers in whatever industry he works in.
For me being a manager goes beyond what you do on the pitch or at the training ground. You are the face of the club. You publicly represent it and others forge an opinion of your club based on that representation.
In the time Powell was here we had a great reputation. People saw us as a friendly, family club and we had a very positive media reputation. This helped bring the players in that we did. He also made sure that he researched thoroughly each player we signed to make sure they matched his expectations and ethos.
He then produced a team that worked their socks off for him and each other. A squad that gave us our best season for a long time. He then sustained this following promotion and we finished just three points short of a play off place.
This thread is irritating in its ignorance. Powell did a fantastic job and he was a great fit for us. The rug was pulled by cash but Duchatelet cost us a semi final place and it was largely Powell's players that kept us up under Riga - who I have nothing but praise for btw.
Riga himself commented when he came for the second time how the spirit that he'd seen before had disappeared. That was down to Powell.
And if Riga was a better manager than Powell why did he fail 2nd time round?
Riga did not fail 2nd time, there is no a Manager in the history of the game that could have stopped that shower of a shit show getting relegated. Still finished higher than Robinson though!
i agree but if Powell is not a good manager because he had to deal with Duchatelet then the same goes for Riga. What has he done since?
It was a pleasure to support a team managed by a man of impeccable character.
Would have him back in a heartbeat in any capacity. That smile brightens up any environment. He didnt get a fair crack, his hard work at Charlton was unfairly taken away by a wally and I don't think he was given enough time at Lee Clark's Invincibles.
First on the list if Bowyer gets an offer he can't refuse.
This thread is irritating in its ignorance. Powell did a fantastic job and he was a great fit for us. The rug was pulled by cash but Duchatelet cost us a semi final place and it was largely Powell's players that kept us up under Riga - who I have nothing but praise for btw.
Ignorance is this post.
By calling someone ignorant for having a difference in opinion to one you have is ignorance in itself. Plenty of people on here have questioned Powell's ability as a manager and they are all ignorant apparently.
There are certain people, be it players, managers, fans etc accocisated with Charlton that some some fans insist should be treated almost godly. There is absolutely no question that Chris Powell is a Charlton legend, but his abilities as a manager are questionable.
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He absolutely had to go that season when he got sacked. The FA Cup run was the only thing keeping him in a job and we went out with a whimper to league one side Sheff U on live TV. The writing was on the wall after that. Sad, but the right call.
It didnt help we were four games behind everyone due to the cup run and our shocking pitch
Our goal difference compared to the others at the time of the Sheffield United game is testament to that
Too many people looked at the position we were in rather than the bigger picture
Still think its debatable as we could have gone down that season under Powell but we certainly werent in trouble by the time he left
We also went out of the cup because Powell deliberately refused to bow to the pressure we'd get used to under Duchatalet
This thread has nothing to do with getting a reaction. You have mixed this up with another post!
Page two of this thread you said, "The owner of the original post that I edited was behaving like an annoying dick over the weekend, the post was more to rock his boat than benefit others."
But as I say, I suggest you just leave it there mate as somethings clearly going on and is not right.
Were you not paying attention to the fact that that we were on the verge of administration with a threadbare squad until Christmas? Did you notice when Roland turned up and sold Dale Stephens and Yann Kermogant, brought in a load of rubbish, most of whom barely played for us, and then started telling our manager which players to pick and what formation to play? Could they have been factors in our league position perhaps? Things certainly took a massive upturn after Powell left, culminating with a nice long spell in League 1.
Your post suggest that you're the sort of person that looks at the league table and goes "everyone in the bottom half has got a rubbish manager. They must have, otherwise they'd be top of the table".
I was replying to another post, if you had read the whole thread you would know that, best not to make assumptions. Anyway, no need to apologise, we all love CP and we all love Charlton.
Kept Huddersfield in the Championship who I’m sure would have had one of the smaller budgets at the time. As his replacement overachieved Powell’s seen as having done a bad job there, but another manager may have taken them down.
Didn’t work out at Southend. Not sure what sort of budget he had there, but I’d imagine it would be mid table at best.
He was good for us and had either of the two ownerships he worked for gave him a budget to invest in the squad and keep the likes of Yann and Stephens then I think he’d have put together a squad that would have at least competed in the Championship with a chance of overachieving.
He likely won’t have another season like 11/12 again but he was the right manager at the right time for us and had the summer of 2012 worked out differently a decent budget and the momentum we had could have seen the progress under him continue.
Would Powell have kept us up if he was kept on? I reckon yes without a doubt. The QPR game is testament to that.
Riga done the job but it wasn't perfect by any stretch, anyone remember the Barnsley home game? Also scraping past a terrible Yeovil team.
League One would have come a season sooner if kept Powell on imo. 6 wins from 32 games. I'd say this team we have now is worse than the team Powell had relative to the standard of the league and Bowyer has managed to pick up 10 wins from 37.
I'm not saying that the appointments at Charlton that followed were good, RD did a terrible job with his manager choices by and large and lucked out by stumbling onto Bowyer. We did at least try for Wilder, which would have been an amazing appointment.
Powell hasn't exactly set the football management scene ablaze.
Don't get so stressed out. x
It was great to have a proper Charlton man at the helm who got us, was one of us. Yes, he clearly had his limitations, but compared to his positive qualities they were miniscule.
Quite frankly, I love the man and would love to see him back at the club in some capacity. To me he will always be SCP.
Sorry, but this particular debate really does stress me out. xxx
Powell should have been judged after those games in hand, especially as we still had to play Barnsley and Yeovil at the Valley
You also need to remember the summer we'd had; Simon Church came in after playing on trial against Ebbsfleet whilst Sordell only joined on loan
He had to deal with losing: Wagstaff | Fuller | Taylor | Wright-Phillips | Button that summer because our backer walked away
It then got worse in the January because some twat came in and gave away Stephens and Kermorgant, remind me who their replacements were that he had to deal with for two months?
That season just wasnt as black and white as its being painted!!
Riga himself commented when he came for the second time how the spirit that he'd seen before had disappeared. That was down to Powell.
And if Riga was a better manager than Powell why did he fail 2nd time round?
However, like many many managers at a new club, when it came to taking over an ex manager's team, he was not able to get the best from the players he inherited, and perhaps he was not given the resources to build the team that he envisaged.
Powell is by no means the first and will not be the last intelligent, articulate, talented man who is all too often unable to get his point across to a bunch of virtual strangers in whatever industry he works in.
He then produced a team that worked their socks off for him and each other. A squad that gave us our best season for a long time. He then sustained this following promotion and we finished just three points short of a play off place.
For us? A bloody great manager.
Context is everything.
It was a pleasure to support a team managed by a man of impeccable character.
Would have him back in a heartbeat in any capacity. That smile brightens up any environment. He didnt get a fair crack, his hard work at Charlton was unfairly taken away by a wally and I don't think he was given enough time at Lee Clark's Invincibles.
First on the list if Bowyer gets an offer he can't refuse.
By calling someone ignorant for having a difference in opinion to one you have is ignorance in itself.
Plenty of people on here have questioned Powell's ability as a manager and they are all ignorant apparently.
There are certain people, be it players, managers, fans etc accocisated with Charlton that some some fans insist should be treated almost godly. There is absolutely no question that Chris Powell is a Charlton legend, but his abilities as a manager are questionable.