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Charlton v Queens Park Rangers | Sat 27 Jun | 12:30pm KO | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

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  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    Win number 2 in a 9 game winning sequence as Bowyer shows yet again in his third campaign season as manager that his team’s football thrives on warm weather pitches
    I'd never have a Charlton Athletic side down as 'flat track bullies'.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    edited June 2020
    I personally cannot see Bowyer going with the same line up that we had last week. A flat 4-4-2 just won’t work against QPR. We tried it back in December and was getting completely overrun for 25 minutes until Bowyer made a change, he took Purrington off and put Pearce on and we went to a back 3 with Matthews and Doughty as wing-backs. There will be changes for Saturday, that is for sure.

    Eze is QPR’s most dangerous player, by an absolute mile. Without him, I am sure they’d be right in amongst the relegation scrap. Eze has 12 goals and 8 assists from midfield this season, a fantastic record for the young, exciting and skilful midfielder. His style of play is similar to what people may compare to Fosu’s. However, Eze plays centrally behind the main striker and is far more consistent in his performances. If we stop him, we stop a very large part of QPR. What they do very well is get pace out wide which naturally takes a lot of attention from the opposition, this allows Eze to find space in dangerous areas of the pitch - driving passed players as if they weren’t there.

    A way to stop QPR from getting into those positions to hurt us, is to set the traps and know when to quickly and incisively press high. If given the chance, QPR will look to build from the back, out wide and into Eze in the middle. However, if we are organised we could win the ball high up the pitch, and that’s where our flair players can hurt them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowyer go with a back 3. Some people may find it too defensive, especially at home, but you have to adjust your line up according to the opposition as we saw last weekend. Personally I would like us to go with the diamond, having Morgan as part of the three in midfield and one of Williams or Aneke behind the front two. It would also mean Pratley could drop between the centre backs to make a back 3 if we need to.

    I can’t also see Pearce travelling on Tuesday to Cardiff. Another week has passed and his wife will be close to going into labour now. He can probably afford to play on Saturday being in London, but travelling to Cardiff on a Tuesday evening is not ideal. For that reason, Pearce continues in defence with Sarr coming in for him as a two alongside Lockyer on Tuesday.

    I’ll go for the team I’d like to see, rather than the back 3 I think Bowyer will go with.


    Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Pearce Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen Morgan
    Williams
    Bonne Hemed

    Amos, Oshilaja, Sarr, Doughty, Field, Forster-Caskey, McGeady, Aneke, Green

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 QPR
    Bonne
    Hemed
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    An excellent and gently amusing report of QPR's game against Barnsley last week - the Tykes' first win at Loftus Road in 25 games since 1950 , comprising 22 defeats, three draws and one goal. I have finally, finally found a team with a worse away record than ours at Millwall.

    https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/52501/back-with-a-blank-qpr-beaten-by-barnsley-again-–-report

    This guy, Chris Whittingham of 'Loft For Words', is in the Kevin Nolan class. We can but hope that QPR serve up a similarly insipid performance on Saturday, although Mark Warburton will have other ideas.

    Barnsley sound dangerous but hopefully they've got too much to do. A young and energetic side who are clearly going to give it a go. As Chris Whittingham puts it:

    "Austrian manager Gerhard Struber, rocking suit trousers and an expensive belt with a pyjama top, sent out an adventurous line up that had Reds fans scratching their heads pre-match. Debuts for Romal Palmer in attack and Jack Walton in goal, and only a substitute role for Conor Chaplin who’d scored three times when these sides met at Oakwell in December. Six of their starting 11 – Ludewig, Palmer, Walton, Ritzmaier, Simoes, Sollbauer - had made less than ten first team appearances prior to lockdown and Ben Williams had only made 13. Seven of the 11 were 22 or younger. But as in that chaotic 5-3 win, the Yorkshire side flew out of the traps, catching QPR stone cold, scored once early and were really very unfortunate not to add a second and third."

    I know very little about QPR, as the only time I've seen them this season was in our game there just before Christmas. Most of their play came through Eze and we certainly do need to shackle his attacking verve. If we can replicate the level of application we showed at Hull and be a little more clinical, we'll certainly get a result.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    RC_CAFC said:
    I think that this restart has really shown the importance of hunger and desire in players and there isn't many better managers in the league at getting his players to play to the best of their ability than Bowyer.

    I think these are two really good games to have started with post lockdown. Hull because they are rubbish and QPR because they seemingly don't want to be out there and have nothing to play for.

    I just can't see us not being right at it on Saturday and think that providing we don't concede in the first ten minutes to get QPR's tails up, this being anything other than a Charlton win. 

    A few people have talked about it being harsh to 'drop' this player or that player. I think we have to look at it that Bowyer wont be 'dropping' people in the conventional sense, he will only be rotating things so he picks the team he thinks has the best chance of winning that game. Hence why Deji played in the last game.

    2-0 Charlton, purely because we want it more.
    I'm not sure any club had so many out of contract players as us (whether our own or loans), and while we've lost 3 players the fact that so many have committed to staying with us is a real show of commitment to the team and Bowyer

    There are better teams than us, with better players, but we will have an "us against the world" team spirit
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Sage said:
    I personally cannot see Bowyer going with the same line up that we had last week. A flat 4-4-2 just won’t work against QPR. We tried it back in December and was getting completely overrun for 25 minutes until Bowyer made a change, he took Purrington off and put Pearce on and we went to a back 3 with Matthews and Doughty as wing-backs. There will be changes for Saturday, that is for sure.

    Eze is QPR’s most dangerous player, by an absolute mile. Without him, I am sure they’d be right in amongst the relegation scrap. Eze has 12 goals and 8 assists from midfield this season, a fantastic record for the young, exciting and skilful midfielder. His style of play is similar to what people may compare to Fosu’s. However, Eze plays centrally behind the main striker and is far more consistent in his performances. If we stop him, we stop a very large part of QPR. What they do very well is get pace out wide which naturally takes a lot of attention from the opposition, this allows Eze to find space in dangerous areas of the pitch - driving passed players as if they weren’t there.

    A way to stop QPR from getting into those positions to hurt us, is to set the traps and know when to quickly and incisively press high. If given the chance, QPR will look to build from the back, out wide and into Eze in the middle. However, if we are organised we could win the ball high up the pitch, and that’s where our flair players can hurt them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowyer go with a back 3. Some people may find it too defensive, especially at home, but you have to adjust your line up according to the opposition as we saw last weekend. Personally I hope like us to go with the diamond, having Morgan as part of the three in midfield and one of Williams or Aneke behind the front two. It would also mean Pratley could drop between the centre backs to make a back 3 if we need to.

    I can’t also see Pearce travelling on Tuesday to Cardiff. Another week has passed and his wife will be close to going into labour now. He can probably afford to play on Saturday being in London, but travelling to Cardiff on a Tuesday evening is not ideal. For that reason, Pearce continues in defence with Sarr coming in for him as a two alongside Lockyer on Tuesday.
    I’ll go for the team I’d like to see, rather than the back 3 I think Bowyer will go with.


    Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Pearce Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen Morgan
    Williams
    Bonne Hemed

    Amos, Oshilaja, Sarr, Doughty, Field, Forster-Caskey, McGeady, Aneke, Green

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 QPR
    Bonne
    Hemed
    This all makes far too much sense!  I think you should email it to Bowyer...
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Cheers Sage.  If that's how QPR play I'd be a lot more happy to see Green behind Hemed, unfortunately fitness prob won't allow it. 

    Williams to start for me over Mcgeady at home:  Williams should be used as an impact player away to save his legs.  Having both Williams and Morgan closing down fbs and out of position cbs at home is perfect for Bowyer's play.  Bowyer's style of play is much more suited to hard pitches and Williams is the best I've seen for years at closing down defenders, something players won't like in the heat.  Hopefully Hemed can use his knowledge of QPR from last year.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    ColinTat said:
    Cheers Sage.  If that's how QPR play I'd be a lot more happy to see Green behind Hemed, unfortunately fitness prob won't allow it. 

    Williams to start for me over Mcgeady at home:  Williams should be used as an impact player away to save his legs.  Having both Williams and Morgan closing down fbs and out of position cbs at home is perfect for Bowyer's play.  Bowyer's style of play is much more suited to hard pitches and Williams is the best I've seen for years at closing down defenders, something players won't like in the heat.  Hopefully Hemed can use his knowledge of QPR from last year.
    Forgot he played for them last season. Matt Smith was also with them earlier this season

    Guaranteed that both will score. And won't have to worry when celebrating about upsetting the away fans  :D
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Sage said:
    I personally cannot see Bowyer going with the same line up that we had last week. A flat 4-4-2 just won’t work against QPR. We tried it back in December and was getting completely overrun for 25 minutes until Bowyer made a change, he took Purrington off and put Pearce on and we went to a back 3 with Matthews and Doughty as wing-backs. There will be changes for Saturday, that is for sure.

    Eze is QPR’s most dangerous player, by an absolute mile. Without him, I am sure they’d be right in amongst the relegation scrap. Eze has 12 goals and 8 assists from midfield this season, a fantastic record for the young, exciting and skilful midfielder. His style of play is similar to what people may compare to Fosu’s. However, Eze plays centrally behind the main striker and is far more consistent in his performances. If we stop him, we stop a very large part of QPR. What they do very well is get pace out wide which naturally takes a lot of attention from the opposition, this allows Eze to find space in dangerous areas of the pitch - driving passed players as if they weren’t there.

    A way to stop QPR from getting into those positions to hurt us, is to set the traps and know when to quickly and incisively press high. If given the chance, QPR will look to build from the back, out wide and into Eze in the middle. However, if we are organised we could win the ball high up the pitch, and that’s where our flair players can hurt them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowyer go with a back 3. Some people may find it too defensive, especially at home, but you have to adjust your line up according to the opposition as we saw last weekend. Personally I hope like us to go with the diamond, having Morgan as part of the three in midfield and one of Williams or Aneke behind the front two. It would also mean Pratley could drop between the centre backs to make a back 3 if we need to.

    I can’t also see Pearce travelling on Tuesday to Cardiff. Another week has passed and his wife will be close to going into labour now. He can probably afford to play on Saturday being in London, but travelling to Cardiff on a Tuesday evening is not ideal. For that reason, Pearce continues in defence with Sarr coming in for him as a two alongside Lockyer on Tuesday.
    I’ll go for the team I’d like to see, rather than the back 3 I think Bowyer will go with.


    Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Pearce Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen Morgan
    Williams
    Bonne Hemed

    Amos, Oshilaja, Sarr, Doughty, Field, Forster-Caskey, McGeady, Aneke, Green

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 QPR
    Bonne
    Hemed
    Isn’t Pratley injured?

    Thought he was out with knee injury.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Redrobo said:
    Sage said:
    I personally cannot see Bowyer going with the same line up that we had last week. A flat 4-4-2 just won’t work against QPR. We tried it back in December and was getting completely overrun for 25 minutes until Bowyer made a change, he took Purrington off and put Pearce on and we went to a back 3 with Matthews and Doughty as wing-backs. There will be changes for Saturday, that is for sure.

    Eze is QPR’s most dangerous player, by an absolute mile. Without him, I am sure they’d be right in amongst the relegation scrap. Eze has 12 goals and 8 assists from midfield this season, a fantastic record for the young, exciting and skilful midfielder. His style of play is similar to what people may compare to Fosu’s. However, Eze plays centrally behind the main striker and is far more consistent in his performances. If we stop him, we stop a very large part of QPR. What they do very well is get pace out wide which naturally takes a lot of attention from the opposition, this allows Eze to find space in dangerous areas of the pitch - driving passed players as if they weren’t there.

    A way to stop QPR from getting into those positions to hurt us, is to set the traps and know when to quickly and incisively press high. If given the chance, QPR will look to build from the back, out wide and into Eze in the middle. However, if we are organised we could win the ball high up the pitch, and that’s where our flair players can hurt them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowyer go with a back 3. Some people may find it too defensive, especially at home, but you have to adjust your line up according to the opposition as we saw last weekend. Personally I hope like us to go with the diamond, having Morgan as part of the three in midfield and one of Williams or Aneke behind the front two. It would also mean Pratley could drop between the centre backs to make a back 3 if we need to.

    I can’t also see Pearce travelling on Tuesday to Cardiff. Another week has passed and his wife will be close to going into labour now. He can probably afford to play on Saturday being in London, but travelling to Cardiff on a Tuesday evening is not ideal. For that reason, Pearce continues in defence with Sarr coming in for him as a two alongside Lockyer on Tuesday.
    I’ll go for the team I’d like to see, rather than the back 3 I think Bowyer will go with.


    Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Pearce Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen Morgan
    Williams
    Bonne Hemed

    Amos, Oshilaja, Sarr, Doughty, Field, Forster-Caskey, McGeady, Aneke, Green

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 QPR
    Bonne
    Hemed
    Isn’t Pratley injured?

    Thought he was out with knee injury.
    Havent seen it actually confirmed anywhere

    The website that released the info isnt exactly well known
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Redrobo said:
    Sage said:
    I personally cannot see Bowyer going with the same line up that we had last week. A flat 4-4-2 just won’t work against QPR. We tried it back in December and was getting completely overrun for 25 minutes until Bowyer made a change, he took Purrington off and put Pearce on and we went to a back 3 with Matthews and Doughty as wing-backs. There will be changes for Saturday, that is for sure.

    Eze is QPR’s most dangerous player, by an absolute mile. Without him, I am sure they’d be right in amongst the relegation scrap. Eze has 12 goals and 8 assists from midfield this season, a fantastic record for the young, exciting and skilful midfielder. His style of play is similar to what people may compare to Fosu’s. However, Eze plays centrally behind the main striker and is far more consistent in his performances. If we stop him, we stop a very large part of QPR. What they do very well is get pace out wide which naturally takes a lot of attention from the opposition, this allows Eze to find space in dangerous areas of the pitch - driving passed players as if they weren’t there.

    A way to stop QPR from getting into those positions to hurt us, is to set the traps and know when to quickly and incisively press high. If given the chance, QPR will look to build from the back, out wide and into Eze in the middle. However, if we are organised we could win the ball high up the pitch, and that’s where our flair players can hurt them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowyer go with a back 3. Some people may find it too defensive, especially at home, but you have to adjust your line up according to the opposition as we saw last weekend. Personally I hope like us to go with the diamond, having Morgan as part of the three in midfield and one of Williams or Aneke behind the front two. It would also mean Pratley could drop between the centre backs to make a back 3 if we need to.

    I can’t also see Pearce travelling on Tuesday to Cardiff. Another week has passed and his wife will be close to going into labour now. He can probably afford to play on Saturday being in London, but travelling to Cardiff on a Tuesday evening is not ideal. For that reason, Pearce continues in defence with Sarr coming in for him as a two alongside Lockyer on Tuesday.
    I’ll go for the team I’d like to see, rather than the back 3 I think Bowyer will go with.


    Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Pearce Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen Morgan
    Williams
    Bonne Hemed

    Amos, Oshilaja, Sarr, Doughty, Field, Forster-Caskey, McGeady, Aneke, Green

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 QPR
    Bonne
    Hemed
    Isn’t Pratley injured?

    Thought he was out with knee injury.
    Havent seen it actually confirmed anywhere

    The website that released the info isnt exactly well known
    As far as I know, Pratley is fine and will be in the squad on Saturday. I’d be very surprised if he isn’t.
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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    cafc-west said:
    Sage said:
    I personally cannot see Bowyer going with the same line up that we had last week. A flat 4-4-2 just won’t work against QPR. We tried it back in December and was getting completely overrun for 25 minutes until Bowyer made a change, he took Purrington off and put Pearce on and we went to a back 3 with Matthews and Doughty as wing-backs. There will be changes for Saturday, that is for sure.

    Eze is QPR’s most dangerous player, by an absolute mile. Without him, I am sure they’d be right in amongst the relegation scrap. Eze has 12 goals and 8 assists from midfield this season, a fantastic record for the young, exciting and skilful midfielder. His style of play is similar to what people may compare to Fosu’s. However, Eze plays centrally behind the main striker and is far more consistent in his performances. If we stop him, we stop a very large part of QPR. What they do very well is get pace out wide which naturally takes a lot of attention from the opposition, this allows Eze to find space in dangerous areas of the pitch - driving passed players as if they weren’t there.

    A way to stop QPR from getting into those positions to hurt us, is to set the traps and know when to quickly and incisively press high. If given the chance, QPR will look to build from the back, out wide and into Eze in the middle. However, if we are organised we could win the ball high up the pitch, and that’s where our flair players can hurt them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowyer go with a back 3. Some people may find it too defensive, especially at home, but you have to adjust your line up according to the opposition as we saw last weekend. Personally I hope like us to go with the diamond, having Morgan as part of the three in midfield and one of Williams or Aneke behind the front two. It would also mean Pratley could drop between the centre backs to make a back 3 if we need to.

    I can’t also see Pearce travelling on Tuesday to Cardiff. Another week has passed and his wife will be close to going into labour now. He can probably afford to play on Saturday being in London, but travelling to Cardiff on a Tuesday evening is not ideal. For that reason, Pearce continues in defence with Sarr coming in for him as a two alongside Lockyer on Tuesday.
    I’ll go for the team I’d like to see, rather than the back 3 I think Bowyer will go with.


    Phillips
    Matthews Lockyer Pearce Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen Morgan
    Williams
    Bonne Hemed

    Amos, Oshilaja, Sarr, Doughty, Field, Forster-Caskey, McGeady, Aneke, Green

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 QPR
    Bonne
    Hemed
    This all makes far too much sense!  I think you should email it to Bowyer...
    I don’t want to sound as if I would be telling Bowyer how to set up and play against them, that’s heading into Roland territory with Chris Powell.

    You’d hope maybe someone from the club may have already prepared things like this, but if not it’s now out there and available to them if they want to use it. I have full confidence in Bowyer though to have prepared more than enough.

    For the record though, I would happily take up a role in opposition analysis to provide the management team with if they want to get in contact with me :smile:
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    Only change I'd make to the team is bringing in a proper LB. Problem is Purrington was awful against them at their place & Dougherty is more a left winger than a defender. Will LB trust Page at LB....?

    All that being said I'm going for a home win. 2-1.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    QPR are only 7 points off a play off, but agree it is better to be playing them now after losing to Barnsley. Imagine how up for it they would be if they had won and were sitting just 4 points off a play off spot.

    I still think they consider they have an outside chance, so I don't agree they won't be motivated for this game. I personally felt they were very good when we played them earlier in the season, in a match we should have lost. My QPR mate has been watching them for over 50 years and he says that this season they have played some of the best football he has seen in a number of years. Their away form especially has been very good, but not sure that counts for very much now.

    Like everyone else, I worry about where our goals will come from. I think we need to score first in order to get a result. A 0-0 at half time, with good substitutions off the bench, might be the way to go. This is a crucial match in our fight for survival. I can't think of another remaining game which on paper looks so winnable. In my opinion a win here gives us an @oohaahmortimer 65% chance of survival. Half that should we lose (points deductions excepted). A draw is not necessarily a bad result. Every point is vital now, which is why 3 point gains are priceless. 49 points plus our goal difference should be enough.

  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,476
    Got a draw written all over it.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Only change I'd make to the team is bringing in a proper LB. Problem is Purrington was awful against them at their place & Dougherty is more a left winger than a defender. Will LB trust Page at LB....?

    All that being said I'm going for a home win. 2-1.
    Page isnt fit, is a probably out for a few more days
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Can't see us winning this 2-0 to them.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Morgan and Davison have signed up.

    Fantastic news for our club.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Looks like Lapslie is back in training, also confirms there is nothing wrong with Pratley's knee

    Do love this sort of spirit from the team, is exactly why I think we'll be closer to midtable come the end of the season

  • MStuartPerm
    MStuartPerm Posts: 611
    Gutted I won’t be there in person to see us get another 3 points closer to safety. 
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2020
    I think we could have scored a few more if we had a bit of luck and later in the game if we tried harder to when we had the lead. The key thing is how easy you create chances and I think we showed we were ok in this area on Saturday. When we attacked we looked dangerous. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    Only change I'd make to the team is bringing in a proper LB. Problem is Purrington was awful against them at their place & Dougherty is more a left winger than a defender. Will LB trust Page at LB....?

    All that being said I'm going for a home win. 2-1.
    Page isnt fit, is a probably out for a few more days
    FUCK me.
    I never saw that coming. 
  • Hoping we scrape a 1-0.
  •  Needed to share this...but can’t find a crowd thread one...but switched on sky sports footy on...WBA v Brum from the other day is on...about to turn off,but as they kicked off second half...the crowd noise in background was us lot singing Valley Floyd Road...


    anyways we win 3-1 Bonne,Williams & Chuks


  • JonT_Abs
    JonT_Abs Posts: 142
    1 -0 ...Davison   
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    I think Bows will go with a back three and i'm he starts with Doughty at LWB. I seem to remember him coming on in December and giving their full back a torrid old time.

    As others have mentioned they have lively wingers but their defense isn't all that so we will get chances. 2-1 to CAFC
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ef5abf213af3/bowyer-lets-build-on-positive-start

    Everyone is available other than Page and Smith

    JFC could be a useful player for us in this period, as he has previously shown that he can get goals from midfield, something we badly lack
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ef5abf213af3/bowyer-lets-build-on-positive-start

    Everyone is available other than Page and Smith

    JFC could be a useful player for us in this period, as he has previously shown that he can get goals from midfield, something we badly lack
    Also solid LB cover.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    edited June 2020
    Explains why Matt Smith wasnt on the bench against Hull... Although I hate to say, who would you have dropped to include him?

    In a way I'd question who we should drop in favour of George Lapslie as he does have a great engine, only change I think we'll see in the 20-man squad is Green for Davison
  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,295
    Only change I'd make to the team is bringing in a proper LB. Problem is Purrington was awful against them at their place & Dougherty is more a left winger than a defender. Will LB trust Page at LB....?

    All that being said I'm going for a home win. 2-1.
    Page isnt fit, is a probably out for a few more days months