Matthews will go if he gets offered better terms by another club by end of window. Doughty will go if we get offered the money we want by the end of the window -either way, we are going to have a crack at promotion and we have to trust Gallen and Bowyer to know the players that can do that for us. They've done it once, they can do it again.
Matthews is a free agent, he can sign for a club whenever, it doesn't have to be by the end of the window.
Although i'd assume it's in his interest to sign for someone sooner rather than later, as clubs will simply sign other options instead of waiting for him.
Just wonder if the takeover has not done Dill. Phillips any favours. We're not in need of cash now, so do not need to sell him. Maybe he's waiting to see if a championship comes along and if not will sign his contract offer from the club. If I were Bows I'd want him to show a bit more commitment to the club and help us to win promotion. I'd be a rotten sod and threaten to withdraw his contract offer, forcing him (or his agent) to find a club or spend the next season not playing while his contract is winding down. But then that's why I'm not a football manager and Bows is.
Is the contract offer for Phillips still on the table, i got the impression that Bow had lost patience with him and his waster agent and told him he could go?
Matthews will go if he gets offered better terms by another club by end of window. Doughty will go if we get offered the money we want by the end of the window -either way, we are going to have a crack at promotion and we have to trust Gallen and Bowyer to know the players that can do that for us. They've done it once, they can do it again.
Matthews is a free agent, he can sign for a club whenever, it doesn't have to be by the end of the window.
Although i'd assume it's in his interest to sign for someone sooner rather than later, as clubs will simply sign other options instead of waiting for him.
He took that risk last summer and got a deal late on with us.
Quite possible he'll try again but a bigger risk given the impact of Covid19 on squad size and wages.
Ben Johnson from West Ham on loan at RB looks likely now.
I certainly get the impression from those comments that Bowyer wasn't a huge fan of Bonne & like a few on here, he obviously thinks it's a great deal & can use the money to improve the squad.
Interesting as those comments are quite unlike Bowyer
It's almost exactly what he said about Josh Magennis.
Bowyer like a player with good 1st touch, quick feet and able to pass and move.
So Leko returns?
Did I see somewhere that Leko's move to Brum. had fallen through.
Ben Johnson from West Ham on loan at RB looks likely now.
I certainly get the impression from those comments that Bowyer wasn't a huge fan of Bonne & like a few on here, he obviously thinks it's a great deal & can use the money to improve the squad.
Interesting as those comments are quite unlike Bowyer
It's almost exactly what he said about Josh Magennis.
Bowyer like a player with good 1st touch, quick feet and able to pass and move.
So Leko returns?
Did I see somewhere that Leko's move to Brum. had fallen through.
No he signed for them. He's still a couple of weeks away from returning from the injury he got with us though.
Matthews will go if he gets offered better terms by another club by end of window. Doughty will go if we get offered the money we want by the end of the window -either way, we are going to have a crack at promotion and we have to trust Gallen and Bowyer to know the players that can do that for us. They've done it once, they can do it again.
posting whilst not knowing what we want for Doughty but I hope it's substantial like 6m, although of course if he won't sign a new contract perhaps it's wise to cash in now which would be a shame. I'd hoped to have been reading by now that he's signing a new long term deal with us.
Ben Johnson from West Ham on loan at RB looks likely now.
I certainly get the impression from those comments that Bowyer wasn't a huge fan of Bonne & like a few on here, he obviously thinks it's a great deal & can use the money to improve the squad.
Interesting as those comments are quite unlike Bowyer
It's almost exactly what he said about Josh Magennis.
Bowyer like a player with good 1st touch, quick feet and able to pass and move.
So Leko returns?
Did I see somewhere that Leko's move to Brum. had fallen through.
No he signed for them. He's still a couple of weeks away from returning from the injury he got with us though.
Just wonder if the takeover has not done Dill. Phillips any favours. We're not in need of cash now, so do not need to sell him. Maybe he's waiting to see if a championship comes along and if not will sign his contract offer from the club. If I were Bows I'd want him to show a bit more commitment to the club and help us to win promotion. I'd be a rotten sod and threaten to withdraw his contract offer, forcing him (or his agent) to find a club or spend the next season not playing while his contract is winding down. But then that's why I'm not a football manager and Bows is.
Is the contract offer for Phillips still on the table, i got the impression that Bow had lost patience with him and his waster agent and told him he could go?
In all the excitement of the take over I obviously missed that.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
Interpret it to mean we couldn't refuse £2m as it was too good an offer for Bonne (ie. Bowyer essentially implying we got more than he is probably worth), rather than we couldn't refuse due to any pressing financial/business reasons.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
From a business point of view though its a great deal. 1.8m profit within 12 months on a 200k spend. If a player wants to leave and you think you can spend the 2mil better elsewhere its a no brainer.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
Interpret it to mean we couldn't refuse £2m as it was too good an offer for Bonne (ie. Bowyer essentially implying we got more than he is probably worth), rather than we couldn't refuse due to any pressing financial/business reasons.
doesn't say that though 'to sell for the money we are is something the football club and us as a business couldn't refuse'.
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
Re Schwartz. I’ve been told it’s all about the scheduling of payments. Initially I heard that his Danish club wanted to loan him for a fee but then accepted a bid. Player agreed terms but then the nitty gritty of the deal has broken down. I’m fairly confident that’s correct.
Is it off?
Currently. Yes.
Would you like to join withdrawn or cling on for green should it still happen?
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
The problem is that we can only see half the deal. Steve and Bows are not stupid so we can assume they know what they can achieve with that £2m and a space in the squad.
I liked Bonne as well. I’m hoping I like his replacement even more.
Hopefully with the pressure on going into the last days of the window, Schwartz forces the move. Is the 6th the deadline for all European transfers too? In case he has a backup to go elsewhere on the continent
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
The problem is that we can only see half the deal. Steve and Bows are not stupid so we can assume they know what they can achieve with that £2m and a space in the squad.
I liked Bonne as well. I’m hoping I like his replacement even more.
It strikes me that Bows and Gallen didn't think that he would suit the way that they wanted to play this year. In the past couple of games he certainly hasn't looked like a guy who was sharp and going to bang them in on a regular basis, although how much of that is his agent blowing in his ear telling him this is his way into the premiership.....
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
His 1 in 3 record in The Championship was over 1 season. Do it over 3 or 4 and then you might go for £10m.
And pace is the main attribute you want as a striker if you aren't a Magennis or a Carroll.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
Interpret it to mean we couldn't refuse £2m as it was too good an offer for Bonne (ie. Bowyer essentially implying we got more than he is probably worth), rather than we couldn't refuse due to any pressing financial/business reasons.
doesn't say that though 'to sell for the money we are is something the football club and us as a business couldn't refuse'.
Buy for 200k. Sell for 2 million. Seriously we couldn't refuse
Only at Charlton would we sell our top scorer and his potential replacement falls through on the same day
Schwartz has not just fallen through today. Been problems with the deal for more than a week at least. It’s not completely dead as understand it and could be resurrected but at present it’s not happening.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
Interpret it to mean we couldn't refuse £2m as it was too good an offer for Bonne (ie. Bowyer essentially implying we got more than he is probably worth), rather than we couldn't refuse due to any pressing financial/business reasons.
doesn't say that though 'to sell for the money we are is something the football club and us as a business couldn't refuse'.
He definitely could have said no. But Bowyer and Gallen obviously felt it was good business. Bonne did ask to go as well. Only time will tell if it was the right thing for all parties concerned - I certainly think we got the better end of the deal.
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
I agree, however super Clive and Andy hunt were not known for pace. I think here it was more a case of him pushing for it and us holding out for as much as possible
I'm not sure we have got such a good deal there. strikers under 25 with 1 in 3 records in the championship go for around 10m. I really liked bonne, and he will do well I think.. the 1 thing perhaps against him is a bit of a lack of pace..
Agree. I think it was LB who said last year that you get quoted 1m when you enquire about National League strikers.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
Interpret it to mean we couldn't refuse £2m as it was too good an offer for Bonne (ie. Bowyer essentially implying we got more than he is probably worth), rather than we couldn't refuse due to any pressing financial/business reasons.
doesn't say that though 'to sell for the money we are is something the football club and us as a business couldn't refuse'.
Buy for 200k. Sell for 2 million. Seriously we couldn't refuse
Can't disagree with that really.
Nice guy, decent forward, but he really wasn't looking like setting the World on fire for us.
Wish him well at QPR, hope he scores a few and is seen as a perfect replacement for Benteke at Palarse who pay £30m for him, giving us a tidy sell on.
I don't get that as a business we couldn't refuse 2m. Surely Thomas could have said no.
Interpret it to mean we couldn't refuse £2m as it was too good an offer for Bonne (ie. Bowyer essentially implying we got more than he is probably worth), rather than we couldn't refuse due to any pressing financial/business reasons.
doesn't say that though 'to sell for the money we are is something the football club and us as a business couldn't refuse'.
Buy for 200k. Sell for 2 million. Seriously we couldn't refuse
QPR fans sites seem to think the fee was £700K upfront with rest linked to performance.
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Although i'd assume it's in his interest to sign for someone sooner rather than later, as clubs will simply sign other options instead of waiting for him.
that Bow had lost patience with him and his waster agent and told him
he could go?
Quite possible he'll try again but a bigger risk given the impact of Covid19 on squad size and wages.
I was responding to @SwingForward's comment as it goes against what Bow said yesterday
I liked Bonne as well.
I’m hoping I like his replacement even more.
And pace is the main attribute you want as a striker if you aren't a Magennis or a Carroll.
Sell for 2 million.
Seriously we couldn't refuse
I think it was LB who said last year that you get quoted 1m when you enquire about National League strikers.
Nice guy, decent forward, but he really wasn't looking like setting the World on fire for us.
Wish him well at QPR, hope he scores a few and is seen as a perfect replacement for Benteke at Palarse who pay £30m for him, giving us a tidy sell on.