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Wigan financial woes - up for sale again? p40

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  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,799
    Wigan quoted on BBC News - "our major objective is to complete all our remaining fixtures for this season"
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,465
    PeterGage said:
    Wigan quoted on BBC News - "our major objective is to complete all our remaining fixtures for this season"
    Wow, that doesn't sound good for them at all.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,584
    Unless this has a massive de-stabilising effect and they let players go they will see themselves clear of relegation this season
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,791
    PrincessFiona said:
    sammy391 said:
    Am I right In thinking That Sheffield Wednesday players haven’t been paid fully this month too?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53242237
    Is there not a Penalty for not paying the players? 

  • ladywell_addick
    ladywell_addick Posts: 181
    leftbehind said:
    Thoughts are with any hard working staff that may lose jobs, stuff the 10 points that may help us, rather good hard working people kept jobs and are able to support there family
    This. Also would rather Charlton stay up through our own volition rather than because Wigan have gone out of business. At a time like this as well, I'd dread the thought of losing my livelihood.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,795
    Bedsaddick said:
    I wouldn’t get all gleeful too soon . That could quite easily be us in the very near future . 
    Is anyone being gleeful? Seems like the majority of posters on here are actually saddened by the news, even though it could help us. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    edited July 2020
     
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,738
    DoctorCharlton said:

    Didn't they get taken over recently?

    EDIT: taken over last month..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52920816


    BBC report says that players agreed to take a 3 month deferral of wages from April. Could be that wages were due at the start of this week & not enough money to pay not only June's but the previous couple of months as well. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    sammy391 said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    sammy391 said:
    Am I right In thinking That Sheffield Wednesday players haven’t been paid fully this month too?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53242237
    Is there not a Penalty for not paying the players? 

    Not sure. But maybe it was the ones who refused to play so they decided not to play footballers who didn't play football?

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,975
    What a crazy situation football is in at the moment

    Imagine being a Wigan fan at the moment, seeing your team in incredible form on the pitch, only for this to happen. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    carly burn said:
    carly burn said:
    From the sun:

    A top Manchester-based firm have been brought in to sort out their affairs while the EFL may be forced to dock them 12 points for the action.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12000255/wigan-administration-championship-football/
     Just when they thought things couldn't get any worse!
    Must be mates with Southall.  Everyone in Manchester knows each other, it's only a village :wink:
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,465
    golfaddick said:
    DoctorCharlton said:

    Didn't they get taken over recently?

    EDIT: taken over last month..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52920816


    BBC report says that players agreed to take a 3 month deferral of wages from April. Could be that wages were due at the start of this week & not enough money to pay not only June's but the previous couple of months as well. 

    And I'd guess if the players aren't getting paid, they won't want to play.

    Is it a case of if they can't field a team against us, we'd get the 3pts due to their default?

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,289
    Cafc43v3r said:
    carly burn said:
    carly burn said:
    From the sun:

    A top Manchester-based firm have been brought in to sort out their affairs while the EFL may be forced to dock them 12 points for the action.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12000255/wigan-administration-championship-football/
     Just when they thought things couldn't get any worse!
    Must be mates with Southall.  Everyone in Manchester knows each other, it's only a village :wink:
    Very true.
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    Feel really bad for the Wigan supporters, hopefully the club can get through this. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,103
    Assuming it's an automatic 12 point deduction, it's good news in that it will put another side below us.

    Bad news in that we have to play them in the penultimate game and now they probably won't be safe.

  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    I am quite happy for us to benefit from clubs losing points due to financial irregularities which enabled said club to benefit but less sanguine about benefiting from a team going into administration.

    Might explain why they are playing out of their skin though.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited July 2020
    It's 12 points, immediately. 

    Unless you are already relegated (or promoted even with a 12 point deduction which is less likely) that's due to Uncle Ken putting Leeds into admin at half time on the last day of the season when they were already relegated. 

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  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,993
    It's a 12 point deduction, not 10. From what I can make out from this - https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-3---the-league/ - it's automatic when they enter administration, not something that you can appeal (unless the administration is caused by another club defaulting on a payment which consequently forces Club A into administration). The only grey area is that when a points deduction is applied (this season or next season) revolves around whether administrating occurs before or after the 4th Thursday in March, which is obviously based on a season running to May, not July. There's also mention of force majeur. Working at the moment so only skim read it.

    Good news for us, but another club let down by the EFL. How can you go into administrating 4 weeks after being taken over?!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,738
    Cafc43v3r said:
    It's 12 points, immediately. 

    Unless you are already relegated (or promoted even with a 12 point deduction which is less likely) that's due to Uncle Ken putting Leeds into admin at half time on the last day of the season when they were already relegated. 
    According to Sky just now, its 12 points, but in the current season if applied before March. Obviously Covid-19 stopped the season in early March  so I would expect Wigan to appeal (and win) by saying that C19 has been the major factor in them having no money.

    99% certain they won't get punished this season. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,103
    I wonder if the authorities might be a bit more lenient with the points deduction give the current economic climate?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,390
    Football is fucking broken
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Begbies Traynor are specialists in Administration.  Feel sorry for Wigan fans/Paul Cook and who've done a very creditable job at looking like they were staying up.

    On the other side they're part of the bonkers finances of the champ.  They've paid way over affordable wages for many a year.  Hopefully L1 L2 sort out wage 2 turnover ratios.  No chance in the Champ though.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,993
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    I wonder if the authorities might be a bit more lenient with the points deduction give the current economic climate?
    Unless they temporarily amended/suspended their rules concerning administration as a result of Covid, I don't think their rules allow them any scope for leniency.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,974
    If as the administrator says the aim is to complete their fixtures, does that mean if they fail to do so we get the 3 points? They also have to play Hull and Barnsley.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,888
    I wouldnt try and second guess the EFL they're a law unto themselves, making it up as they go along 😏.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,893
    6 points this season and 6 next? Or is that punishing them twice
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Four weeks after being taken over as well...

    fit and proper test my arse. Whole system needs overhauling. 

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