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Wigan financial woes - up for sale again? p40

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    Cafc43v3r said:
    What the EFL could do is to automatically relegate a team which is sold without the sale being cleared by them. To work, everybody has to know this, but it might have prevented our recent sh*tshow. It probably wouldn't have helped Wigan though. 
    Surely we'd have just been relegated! Don't think Roland or Southall would have cared!
    Roland wanted us in League 1, as it was cheaper for him to run the club and keep selling on our best youth players. 
    Did he?  We were loosing about £10 million in league 1 and breaking even this season.  Good luck flogging a league 1 player for £10 plus every year. 
    A lot has happened in the last few years, so difficult to remember everything that’s been said about our club, but I remember him saying that League 1 is better off for him. To him we were a farm for international players to come over on the cheap then sell for profit, as we all know that didn’t work out. But he’s a stubborn person and continued believing his plan was the way forward. 
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    What the EFL could do is to automatically relegate a team which is sold without the sale being cleared by them. To work, everybody has to know this, but it might have prevented our recent sh*tshow. It probably wouldn't have helped Wigan though. 
    They could. They’d just need their 72 members to vote for that rule change. 

    Do you see the problem with all of these suggestions? The members will not approve them as it’s not in their interest to put limits on who they can sell their club to. 

    Only an external regulator with powers to impose rules can make these changes. 
    This 1000% why would the members, actually the owners, make it almost impossible to off load the club when they have had enough? 
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    Redrobo said:
    If owners had to put up a bond of some kind - say six months running costs, it would give clubs some level of protection.
    Agreed. It’s not difficult is it. Whatever the minimum term for running costs should also be the minimum term for ownership. This would stop the flipping for a quick buck.
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    There already IS a Football Ombudsman

    https://www.theifo.co.uk/index.html

    The fact that none of you calling for one knew that, shows how effective he is. The actual bloke himself argues for a proper independent regulator with power, and that he himself should have the gig. The football activist people agree with the first part of his proposition....
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    cabbles said:
    ross1 said:

    Wigan Athletic: English football has been disrespected, says EFL chairman Rick Parry


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53341269
    I hate interviews like that. I wish Dan Roan had said......"but its YOUR test. YOU make the fucking rules. If you think they need beefing up then just DO IT."

    Rick Parry......

    " you have to ask yourself why a Chinese businessman would want to buy a Championship club...."

    Me........" Because you fucking let them you plank"


    Arghhhhh.
    I know Dan Roan is the BBC Sports editor/lead journo, but he’s not the best to have covering football matters imo.  Everything about him screams Rugby Union, living in Fleet and participating in iron man competitions.  
    Bit unfair mate. He’s a Spurs fan. He anchored the West Ham Olympic Stadium documentary and got some pretty vile abuse on social from the East London pond life, not to mention indirectly from John Whittingdale who was then DCMS and always a Johnson fanboy.
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    There already IS a Football Ombudsman

    https://www.theifo.co.uk/index.html

    The fact that none of you calling for one knew that, shows how effective he is. The actual bloke himself argues for a proper independent regulator with power, and that he himself should have the gig. The football activist people agree with the first part of his proposition....
    Has nothing to do with regulation of ownership though does he?  Its about complaints regarding tickets, sales of goods, banning orders and such like. 

    General customer service disputes?

    Who are the "football activist people" are they the same as the people's football activists or the activists of football people? 
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    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    How is that possible. The transfer window is closed & isnt going to open before the end of the season & probably not opening until sometime in August. Might pay Augusts wages but not before then. 


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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    How is that possible. The transfer window is closed & isnt going to open before the end of the season & probably not opening until sometime in August. Might pay Augusts wages but not before then. 


    Presumably like when we signed Hermann from Ipswich? Couldn’t play for us until the following season, but we’d bought him before the window.
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    How is that possible. The transfer window is closed & isnt going to open before the end of the season & probably not opening until sometime in August. Might pay Augusts wages but not before then. 


    You can agree a deal to sign a player so that he officially joins on the first day the window opens.
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    it's getting like horse racing, breeding, lineage and ancestry rule ((:>) .. this boy has played one league game  ..  his dad is long time classy defender David Weir
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    edited July 2020
    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    it's getting like horse racing, breeding, lineage and ancestry rule ((:>) .. this boy has played one league game  ..  his dad is long time classy defender David Weir
    They have got history of this, the last center half Brighton signed from Wigan's dad was long time classy area manager (for a major supermarket) Dave Burn. 
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    it's getting like horse racing, breeding, lineage and ancestry rule ((:>) .. this boy has played one league game  ..  his dad is long time classy defender David Weir
    Sounds more like Brighton want to help them out. Why I dont know, but paying £500k for a player with just 1 league game under his belt sounds a bit strange to me.

    Then I suppose £500k to a Premiership team is just a drop in the ocean. I hope Wigan get a good sell-on fee.
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    it's getting like horse racing, breeding, lineage and ancestry rule ((:>) .. this boy has played one league game  ..  his dad is long time classy defender David Weir
    Sounds more like Brighton want to help them out. Why I dont know, but paying £500k for a player with just 1 league game under his belt sounds a bit strange to me.

    Then I suppose £500k to a Premiership team is just a drop in the ocean. I hope Wigan get a good sell-on fee.
    I doubt that they're being completely altruistic, I imagine the player is highly rated and valued at much more than £500k. A regular for England U18s so he has some talent
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    it's getting like horse racing, breeding, lineage and ancestry rule ((:>) .. this boy has played one league game  ..  his dad is long time classy defender David Weir
    Sounds more like Brighton want to help them out. Why I dont know, but paying £500k for a player with just 1 league game under his belt sounds a bit strange to me.

    Then I suppose £500k to a Premiership team is just a drop in the ocean. I hope Wigan get a good sell-on fee.
    As mentioned above, the kids dad is David Weir. Weir is on the staff at Brighton so i'd guess he had a word.

    Like you say 500k is nothing for a premier league club, Brighton's top players probably earn that in a couple of months. The kid must have some talent to a) make his Wigan debut at 15 and b) be a regular for England schoolboys.
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    clive said:
    Wigan midfielder Jensen Weir is expected to complete a £500,000 move to Brighton, which will ensure the Latics are able to pay their players' wages until the end of the season.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53365739
    How is that possible. The transfer window is closed & isnt going to open before the end of the season & probably not opening until sometime in August. Might pay Augusts wages but not before then. 


    Clubs can buy and sell players whenever they wish.

    But those players can't play for their new club until the next transfer window opens.

    See Herman Heridesson
     For the youngsters among us, he played at the back for Charlton and is not an Iclandic rule book!
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    Dazzler21 said:
    If you have to clarify who someone as recent as the Hermannator is, are the audience proper Charlton at all?
    To be fair Daz when my Dad used to talk about Sailor Brown I thought it was one of his mates who went into the merchant navy 😉.
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    Dazzler21 said:
    If you have to clarify who someone as recent as the Hermannator is, are the audience proper Charlton at all?
    He left the club 13 years ago. @carly burn did say for the youngsters among us.
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    Gillis said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    If you have to clarify who someone as recent as the Hermannator is, are the audience proper Charlton at all?
    He left the club 13 years ago. @carly burn did say for the youngsters among us.
     Well I'd never heard of him.

    ;-)
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    £500k is peanuts to a Premier League club. It is a punt for Brighton with little risk and the possibility of greater reward.
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    £500k is peanuts to a Premier League club. It is a punt for Brighton with little risk and the possibility of greater reward.
    And a financial lifeline for Wigan right now. They can pay their players and staff at the end of the month.


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    edited July 2020
    The sun reckons Wigan needs to offload players to raise £5 million for bills due next month; and to reduce a £19 million payroll. Next month’s bills include payments to Barnsley, Everton and Birmingham. Makes you wonder what happens how much those clubs are expecting and if Barnsley and Birmingham don’t receive their money what impact it will have on them
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    So do we know that Wigan are definitely getting a 12 point deduction? Or are they still appealing? 
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    So do we know that Wigan are definitely getting a 12 point deduction? Or are they still appealing? 
    Jeff Stelling on Soccer Saturday yesterday said that Wigan had put in an appeal.
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