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    vffvff
    edited July 2020
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
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    Macronate said:
    Been stung too many times recently.

    Mother Theresa could’ve put that statement out and I still wouldn’t believe a word of  it.
    You'd do well not to believe anything that one ever said. 

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gvzebx/mother-teresa-was-kind-of-a-heartless-bitch

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/world/asia/mother-teresa-critic.html

    Re-using hypos?  Really!

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    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
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    edited July 2020
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        

    Summer has arrived;
    Elliott remains obscure -
    Please share what you know.

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    Elliot has had a chance to prove his integrity. He passes the EFL tests and this all goes away. He has not taken that chance for some reason. We need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
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    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
    Who’s giving up? Looks like quite the opposite to me.
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    He may feel he is helping for all we know. But he certainly isn't busting a gut to prove he is the real deal. Something that isn't that hard to do. Actually, it is a requirement to owning a club.
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    1968CAFC said:
    Please enlighten me
        Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.
    I am still waiting for your evidence. I am not being negative at all - as a supporter for 50 years I just want the best for my club.
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    edited July 2020
    AndyG said:
    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
    It isnt about negativity mate. There are just too many things that dont add up. First Nimer didnt provide the proof required, now PE doesnt seem to be able to either  it isnt that hard is it ? Send the EFL what they require to satisfy the rules. Imo it will not happen because this is all a plan to get the club rejected from the league for failure to comply. I really hope I'm wrong but every bit of common sense is telling me I'm right. If I had the desire to buy a football club and was on the level I would imagine I could send off the required paperwork in no time at all and so could anyone else if the wanted to
    This. I can't see how people can't recognise what a massive risk this is. Other scenarios and risks may take longer to play out, but this one is weeks away. All he has to do is satisfy the EFL tests for ownership, then the risk immediately goes away. How long has he been at the helm? Come on FFS!
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    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
    And you still don’t answer the questions ... oh well, another bullshitter. 
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    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
     Are you friends with Chris Farnell?
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    All he has to do is pass the EFL tests. Why is it taking so long? We have been waiting for somebody from ESI to pass the tests since they took over. If that doesn't strike anybody as dodgy, nothing will. I know the EFL drag their feet but the delay suggests the fault is at our end. Why no public statement urging the EFL to hurry up with it? 
     He may well have failed it already.

    It's not up to the EFL to tell us.
    This is what I believe. What's their Plan B I wonder?
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    1968CAFC said:
    Please enlighten me
        Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.
    I am still waiting for your evidence. I am not being negative at all - as a supporter for 50 years I just want the best for my club.
    So if you are in a cart rolling down a slope towards the end of a cliff, you would wait for it to tip over the cliff?
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    1968CAFC said:
    Please enlighten me
        Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.
    I am still waiting for your evidence. I am not being negative at all - as a supporter for 50 years I just want the best for my club.
    So if you are in a cart rolling down a slope towards the end of a cliff, you would wait for it to tip over the cliff?
    If our thoughts on this are correct then it is already to late I fear. They only have to keep the balls in the air for a few more weeks and then we are out of the league. Then their statement will be along the line of " unfortunately despite our best efforts we have not been able to satisfy the EFL blah blah blah " game set and match ! All of the other dodgy stuff wont matter anymore. Hopefully people far more informed than I are doing stuff behind the scenes to try and stop this otherwise we are finished imo
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    Ferryman said:
    All he has to do is pass the EFL tests. Why is it taking so long? We have been waiting for somebody from ESI to pass the tests since they took over. If that doesn't strike anybody as dodgy, nothing will. I know the EFL drag their feet but the delay suggests the fault is at our end. Why no public statement urging the EFL to hurry up with it? 
     He may well have failed it already.

    It's not up to the EFL to tell us.
    This is what I believe. What's their Plan B I wonder?
     Plod along I would suspect. Continuing to 'search for investment' while racking up debt to the club in paid wages and consultancy fees. Continue to tell us they have supplied paper work to the EFL and are waiting on them. Not making any transfers because they have no intention to and can't anyway.
    Then when it looks like the game is up a few days before deadline day Elliott and El Kashashy to have a fall out. Both bugger off and Farnell brings in his next group of chancers.

    Ad infinitum!
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    edited July 2020
    But that won't happen will it? They can't plod along without satisfying the tests. We have been warned by the EFL. The tests need to be satisfied quickly and until they are we are potentially in grave danger.
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    edited July 2020
    There is no next six weeks.
    There is no 'the next two weeks will be crucial'.
    There is no give it time, wait for answers, see what happens.

    There is the next couple of days.

    We need
    A) The Farnell File tidy and in order, to show to anybody and everybody including the EFL, the FA, the Inland Revenue, the Law Society, politicians and the media.
    B)The EFL to decide something with regards to Elliott.
    C) If nothing before then, then a presence however meek and thinly attended at the EFL HQ in London on Thursday.
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    edited July 2020
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:They idly sat by silently  and let that prick string many of us along publicly on twitter with the supa dupa transfer phone cringefest in the full knowledge we were under an embargo.

    as I read that I think back to Lee Bowyer saying Paul Ellliott seems a nice bloke ...

    as a manager he has to play a different game to reality because he was unwillingly a part of that shitfest of a January window as we were fed bullshit by mouthall and bowyer kept quiet 
    so bowyers words/actions to me have always been guarded but he does drop his guard  and you get the “strange” comment or the look when mouthall mentioned a 5 year contract for him in the press conference or him recently mentioning the crap going on behind the scenes he’s had to deal with . 



    Similarly with his recent positive words for PE, Bowyer also isn't going to have the same appetite or agenda as fans to know who is funding things.

    Bowyer has/ has had enough to focus on without being overly concerned with "who" is paying wages....he only cares really that the wages have been and are paid.

    If Bowyer has been told PE has funded that then he will likely take it at face value and not question it because it's not his concern.  He is not going to challenge it or be as cynical as us fans as that side of things is not his urgent issue as it is for us.  His players have been paid and the club is a going concern for another month and he can move on and focus on other things that need urgent attention.

    Bowyer will not have been sat there with post it notes and venn diagrams like we have trying to make sense of the latest opaque and convoluted ownership structure.

    Therefore I would place very little credence on Bowyer's comments the other day that PE has paid the money.   Bowyer has likely been told that, and it may even be true but it doesn't necessarily mean that it is true or even if it is that there isn't an angle or agenda at play that is detrimental to the club.

    No one should get the benefit of the doubt until actions prove otherwise.

    The lack of EFL approval for weeks is an alarming red flag.  What on earth needs approving?

    I don't know but my guess would be along the lines of:

    1) What is your business plan, cashflow and funding model?

    2) How will this be funded?

    3) Proof of the availability of these funds

    4) Proof of the source of these funds

    5) Who will be the executive directors?


    That is all information that could be collated, provided and reviewed in a single business day (on the premise that any half competent and serious people would have point 1 in place before committing to takeover).


    Something is not right here and looking at the characters involved, their histories and relationships with previous ESI incarnations there is absolutely no goodwill or benefit until they prove otherwise with actions...which will unlikely ever materialise...will be spun and weaved until they go the way of previous mobs and the club, manager, players, staff and fans are left once again picking up the pieces.




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    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
    One question and one only and please try and answer in one sentence of not more than ten words. Why hasn’t he satisfied the EFL with proof of funding?
    I’ll answer it in 5, HE HAS’NT GOT THE MONEY.
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    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
    Ok a simple question here then.

    Can you ask your friend to give us an estimation of Elliott's net worth please.
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    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
    Ok a simple question here then.

    Can you ask your friend to give us an estimation of Elliott's net worth please.
    His nett worth is his business. He doesnt have to prove anything to CAFC fans, nor should he have to imo. He does however have to show proof to the EFL ! So why would you not wish to do that ? 
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    1968CAFC said:
    1968CAFC said:
    stonemuse said:
    1968CAFC said:
    vff said:
    1968CAFC said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    1968CAFC said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Swisdom said:
    Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now.  It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.

    Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about.  He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.

    Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical.  And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc.  If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks.  But we don't have time to dwell.

    I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say.  I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is.  He seems a genuine nice bloke."  In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".  

    I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it.  Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.

    I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
    All the best grifters have the likeability factor. That’s not to say he *is* a grifter, but the fact than he can charm people does not prove he’s legit, unfortunately. I wish it did.
        Paul Elliot is not a grifter.
        He owns hundreds of serious commercial 
        Properties all over the Northwest of the UK.
        I would be totally amazed if he is not Legit !
    Grifter or not, why would a property man from Manchester buy a London football club, have to show proof of funds for circa £20m and also sign up to pay RD £50m in a little over 4 years? 
        He is London born 
        Some of His business interests are in the north
         West.
        If I could afford to put Charlton back on the map
        And back in the premiership one day  I would.
        He certainly could  with his contacts.

        If I am wrong I am certain many on this forum will
        Delight in pointing their fingers and slaughtering    
        Me.

       I honestly think Paul Elliot needs a chance 
       To prove his integrity not just from the Charlton
       Faithful but the inept EFL also.
        
    If Paul Elliot so good with property / business why is he involving himself with the dodgy overpriced Duchatelet/  ESI sale & Separation of assets? Whats in it for him ? Are the wages Paid a loan with expectation that players will be sold ? Is there another property play planned ? 
        Why do people want to buy a football
        Club?
        and why not buy a London Club with Huge future
        Potential and a fantastic past history and great fan base.
        Why do several other business related supporters 
         also want to save our club?
        I would have thought the answer was bloody 
        Obvious.
        And just because Roland was a rottin egg and 
        Mouthall -Southall is a lying scumbag with zero 
        Integrity does not mean everyone who wants to Save this club is the same....none of us with ever move forward wallowing in Negativity !!
    You are avoiding the questions that I, and others, asked ...  where are the links and the proof?

    If you can’t back up your statements, why should we take you seriously?

    As a reminder you stated:
    Where have you been looking ?
        Only 1 properly?
        and a Bridging Loan?
        No you got this all wrong.‘

    So tell us where to look. 
    Ok it seems we should all just give up on our club
    and wallow in self pity and negativity.???

    i personally do not know Paul Elliot that well at all.
    a close friend of mine knows him very very well,
    and I am told he is the real deal.
    i personally do not give a toss what anybody thinks
    but I trust my friend who knows Paul Elliot.

    i also love Charlton Athletic, and highly respect Lee Bowyer, JJ, and the players who wanted to play and put the shirt on.
    i want my football club to move forward and I will not be sucked into negativity and scepticism.
     Are you friends with Chris Farnell?
    He is CF , opened an account on message boards of all clubs in the last few years cos he knows he’ll be involved with em all at some point in time 
        😂😂😂😂😂
        I am not CF 
        I am Greenwich Born, from a working class 
        Background, was brought up in the Charlton 
        Lee Green/ Grove park area of SE London.
        My Grandmothers house where I first lived is on 
        Wolf Crescent,  walking distance from the Valley.
        I am a Third Generation CAFC supporter and my
        Son is a forth we are also season ticket holders.
        My Grandfather help build the Valley.
        I love this Club and Respect Lee Bowyer and JJ
        I also think apart from the Arseholes who have
        Damaged this club for their own financial greed
        The EFL also have a lot to answer for.
        All I want is to see stability and success at this
        Wonderful historic Football Club.
        Believe me I am CF 😂😂

    Even your not sure if your Farnell or not!! ;)
        I am certain who I am ....... are you ?? 😂😂
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