Not a surprise. I mentioned on a previous thread about Sir Tom that one of my clients, the Treasury Director at one of the Big 4 accountancy firms lived in the same village. He told us at the time that the whole village were so sorry for Tom. The daughter had set up this huge “PR Machine” around him and it was well known locally that she was grifting and only in it for whatever she could get. Such a shame given what her father did.
I agree about this being the tip of the iceberg they seem to be shameless grifters such a shame considering the honourable bloodline from the man himself. Same type of people as Mouthall etc
100% - Surprised they put their head above water and done the interview. Personally, can’t see anyone changing their opinion on them whatever they said.
The fact they shoved the 14 year old son on camera is embarrassing. Don’t ruin the sons life because you are a shameless grifter.
They/she pushed her dad put the front door on his zimmer.
Insisted that he used the title Captain despite retiring from the army about 70 years ago.
Flew a 100 year old bloke half way round the world, who hadn't been vaccinated, during the biggest global pendamic in 100 years.
Involved the two emotional national pillars of WW2 and the NHS to run the biggest grift in British history.
Not a surprise. I mentioned on a previous thread about Sir Tom that one of my clients, the Treasury Director at one of the Big 4 accountancy firms lived in the same village. He told us at the time that the whole village were so sorry for Tom. The daughter had set up this huge “PR Machine” around him and it was well known locally that she was grifting and only in it for whatever she could get. Such a shame given what her father did.
I hadn't realised Sir Tom had another daughter as well - who very wisely has had nothing to do with it all interestingly.
I agree about this being the tip of the iceberg they seem to be shameless grifters such a shame considering the honourable bloodline from the man himself. Same type of people as Mouthall etc
100% - Surprised they put their head above water and done the interview. Personally, can’t see anyone changing their opinion on them whatever they said.
The fact they shoved the 14 year old son on camera is embarrassing. Don’t ruin the sons life because you are a shameless grifter.
They/she pushed her dad put the front door on his zimmer.
Insisted that he used the title Captain despite retiring from the army about 70 years ago.
Flew a 100 year old bloke half way round the world, who hadn't been vaccinated, during the biggest global pendamic in 100 years.
Involved the two emotional national pillars of WW2 and the NHS to run the biggest grift in British history.
And your shocked they sold the 14 up the river?
That bit always bugged me as a pedant. He never had the title Captain as he was an army Captain and you can’t keep your rank below Major after retirement from the army. Different for a navel Captain that is three ranks higher.
I agree about this being the tip of the iceberg they seem to be shameless grifters such a shame considering the honourable bloodline from the man himself. Same type of people as Mouthall etc
100% - Surprised they put their head above water and done the interview. Personally, can’t see anyone changing their opinion on them whatever they said.
The fact they shoved the 14 year old son on camera is embarrassing. Don’t ruin the sons life because you are a shameless grifter.
They/she pushed her dad put the front door on his zimmer.
Insisted that he used the title Captain despite retiring from the army about 70 years ago.
Flew a 100 year old bloke half way round the world, who hadn't been vaccinated, during the biggest global pendamic in 100 years.
Involved the two emotional national pillars of WW2 and the NHS to run the biggest grift in British history.
And your shocked they sold the 14 up the river?
That bit always bugged me as a pedant. He never had the title Captain as he was an army Captain and you can’t keep your rank below Major after retirement from the army. Different for a navel Captain that is three ranks higher.
There is a quote form him somewhere, I honestly can't remember where, and it was played down, at the time, for him being too modest.
He didn't want to do it be she convinced him it was for the "greater good".
There are loads of "tit bits" if you go back. It all stinks.
- Thought it srange how their children were present, especially their 14 year old daughter. Which suggests that maybe this was a bit if a hatchet job by Morgan, and they thought they were there just to reflect of Captain Tom and his achievements. - They both seem to think that we are all put on this earth to earn as much materialistic wealth as possible and don't seem to grasp the concept / romance of charity without making a few quid for yourself. - Most of what she said come over as just noise and gobbledegook to me. He chipped in when she'd bought him enough time to think of a (in their heads) a reasonable answer.
"In hindset", to quote her, she should've been happy with their obvious existing wealth (no problem with that) and not been so greedy.
There is a very small part of me that felt sorry for them. Thrown hard into the limelight in an instant and trying to create a legacy for your Dad cannot be an easy thing to do in the full spotlight with people keen to find fault and blame in everything. I am not sure of the hate that went their way for the holiday to Barbados. Sir Tom was old enough to make his own decision on that one. But then they stick a huge jacuzzi in their new building and take £500K profit out of books which refer to raising money for the charity and seemingly they see no shame in this and use their kids as shields. Dreadfully poor behaviour. What unpleasant people.
There is a very small part of me that felt sorry for them. Thrown hard into the limelight in an instant and trying to create a legacy for your Dad cannot be an easy thing to do in the full spotlight with people keen to find fault and blame in everything. I am not sure of the hate that went their way for the holiday to Barbados. Sir Tom was old enough to make his own decision on that one. But then they stick a huge jacuzzi in their new building and take £500K profit out of books which refer to raising money for the charity and seemingly they see no shame in this and use their kids as shields. Dreadfully poor behaviour. What unpleasant people.
The daughter created the limelight by contacting the local press.
I don't agree that a 99 year old is best placed to be making decisions about travelling abroad in a pandemic.
There is a very small part of me that felt sorry for them. Thrown hard into the limelight in an instant and trying to create a legacy for your Dad cannot be an easy thing to do in the full spotlight with people keen to find fault and blame in everything. I am not sure of the hate that went their way for the holiday to Barbados. Sir Tom was old enough to make his own decision on that one. But then they stick a huge jacuzzi in their new building and take £500K profit out of books which refer to raising money for the charity and seemingly they see no shame in this and use their kids as shields. Dreadfully poor behaviour. What unpleasant people.
he has anthother daughter.That wanted nothing to do with the whole thing. I feel for her and her significant others to be honest
imagine the loud mouth dick head members of family you all dread to be involved with...
"During the hearing, representatives for the family said the building would enable the public to enjoy the army veteran's work and the spa pool would offer rehabilitation sessions.
The rest of the building would be used for coffee mornings and charity meetings to combat elderly loneliness."
Yes i'm sure it definitely wasn't going to be used just for their own personal use.
"During the hearing, representatives for the family said the building would enable the public to enjoy the army veteran's work and the spa pool would offer rehabilitation sessions between 11am and 11.05am every fourth Wednesday.
The rest of the building would be used for private coffee mornings from their expensive new coffee machine, and private charity meetings to combat elderly loneliness."
Typical C5 'documentary' - padded to get lots of advert breaks in ! They quite literally tell you at the end of each segment what they are going to tell you / show you in the next segment.
The only thing I learnt was a payment of £18k for an 'appearance fee' which I hadn't heard before. It did (to me) beg the question why the organization paying the fee didn't pay directly to the charity / foundation as I might have assumed they would but perhaps I am naïve to think that would be normal.
Didn’t learn anything new the husband and wife are the worst sort of grifters
How did they get away with the Barbados trip, I know old Tom was 100 but sticking him on a disease riddled plane from cold country to hot and back to cold again probably didn’t help the pneumonia
Look forward to the drone footage of the spa being smashed up
At least we did learn that the money raised by Sir Tom's walk did go to NHS charities.
Exactly. The insinuation all along has been that the family somehow had their noses in the trough of the millions raised and spent it on themselves. But having watched the doc that clearly isn't the case and it left me feeling that they haven't really done a great deal wrong - at least certainty not as much as the public perception.
They kept the book money for themselves, but then it was his book about his life. The only thing I could see wrong there were a couple of ambiguous statements on the cover/forward saying that the book would "help support good causes" or some such, which was a bit iffy.
Then there was the £18k "appearance fee" the daughter got when she was clearly conflicted which, at best, you could say was a misjudgement (if you were feeling charitable).
Then there was the outbuilding/museum/spa. What I hadn't realised was that they'd done this with their own money and the only thing dodgy about it seemed to be that they'd put the name of the Foundation on the application and were now saying it could potentially be used for some sort of charitable purpose, which sounded like bollocks. But they hadn't used the Foundation's money as far as I could tell - otherwise they would've said - so not as bad as we'd been led to believe.
Happy to be corrected if I missed anything, but if the above is the some total of the allegations against them then I don't see what all the fuss has been about. But then again I suppose the press have always loved building something up only to then knock it down again.
Edit: Oh yes, the trip to Barbados. I hadn't realised that they'd been offered free flights and accommodation and that it was on his bucket list as a place he'd always wanted to go. Jeez, I mean if someone offered you and your whole family a free trip there who wouldn't take it?
Just seen that the pair of greedy grifters have been disqualified as charity trustees. I'm sure a lot more will come out when the findings of the enquiry are published.
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Insisted that he used the title Captain despite retiring from the army about 70 years ago.
Flew a 100 year old bloke half way round the world, who hadn't been vaccinated, during the biggest global pendamic in 100 years.
Involved the two emotional national pillars of WW2 and the NHS to run the biggest grift in British history.
And your shocked they sold the 14 up the river?
He didn't want to do it be she convinced him it was for the "greater good".
There are loads of "tit bits" if you go back. It all stinks.
- Thought it srange how their children were present, especially their 14 year old daughter. Which suggests that maybe this was a bit if a hatchet job by Morgan, and they thought they were there just to reflect of Captain Tom and his achievements.
- They both seem to think that we are all put on this earth to earn as much materialistic wealth as possible and don't seem to grasp the concept / romance of charity without making a few quid for yourself.
- Most of what she said come over as just noise and gobbledegook to me. He chipped in when she'd bought him enough time to think of a (in their heads) a reasonable answer.
"In hindset", to quote her, she should've been happy with their obvious existing wealth (no problem with that) and not been so greedy.
I am not sure of the hate that went their way for the holiday to Barbados. Sir Tom was old enough to make his own decision on that one.
But then they stick a huge jacuzzi in their new building and take £500K profit out of books which refer to raising money for the charity and seemingly they see no shame in this and use their kids as shields. Dreadfully poor behaviour. What unpleasant people.
I don't agree that a 99 year old is best placed to be making decisions about travelling abroad in a pandemic.
imagine the loud mouth dick head members of family you all dread to be involved with...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67342506
"During the hearing, representatives for the family said the building would enable the public to enjoy the army veteran's work and the spa pool would offer rehabilitation sessions.
The rest of the building would be used for coffee mornings and charity meetings to combat elderly loneliness."
Yes i'm sure it definitely wasn't going to be used just for their own personal use.
The only thing I learnt was a payment of £18k for an 'appearance fee' which I hadn't heard before. It did (to me) beg the question why the organization paying the fee didn't pay directly to the charity / foundation as I might have assumed they would but perhaps I am naïve to think that would be normal.
How did they get away with the Barbados trip, I know old Tom was 100 but sticking him on a disease riddled plane from cold country to hot and back to cold again probably didn’t help the pneumonia
Look forward to the drone footage of the spa being smashed up
They kept the book money for themselves, but then it was his book about his life. The only thing I could see wrong there were a couple of ambiguous statements on the cover/forward saying that the book would "help support good causes" or some such, which was a bit iffy.
Then there was the £18k "appearance fee" the daughter got when she was clearly conflicted which, at best, you could say was a misjudgement (if you were feeling charitable).
Then there was the outbuilding/museum/spa. What I hadn't realised was that they'd done this with their own money and the only thing dodgy about it seemed to be that they'd put the name of the Foundation on the application and were now saying it could potentially be used for some sort of charitable purpose, which sounded like bollocks. But they hadn't used the Foundation's money as far as I could tell - otherwise they would've said - so not as bad as we'd been led to believe.
Happy to be corrected if I missed anything, but if the above is the some total of the allegations against them then I don't see what all the fuss has been about. But then again I suppose the press have always loved building something up only to then knock it down again.
Edit: Oh yes, the trip to Barbados. I hadn't realised that they'd been offered free flights and accommodation and that it was on his bucket list as a place he'd always wanted to go. Jeez, I mean if someone offered you and your whole family a free trip there who wouldn't take it?
Captain Sir Tom Moore family members disqualified as charity trustees - BBC News