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CAST Meeting with the EFL
LargeAddick
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did it happen? What was said? Any feedback for your members please?
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It wasn't a meeting it was a training session on how to communicate with fans, looks like it worked
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Waste of time. CAST need to be putting more pressure on.
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What's the betting that Paul Elliott has objected to every possible candidate for sitting on this panel6
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wow!
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With it partly up to Paul Elliott to decide who hears his appeal, and with no actual timescale required I dont see why he should rush to get his appeal heard
Its basically allowing him to hold the club to ransom as the EFL cant tell him to go do one until the appeal has been heard
Whats the reason for Paul Elliott to rush as it simply makes everything go away quicker and lessens his chance of getting a payday out of Sandgaard
Forget the EFL coming to our aid with rejecting his appeal, it aint happening!!5 -
Reading that has just made me more angry.7
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The lack of a timescale to hear an appeal is absolutely criminal, holy fucking shit we knew the EFL were incompetent but this goes beyond that15
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Oh my god. I cannot believe I actually just read that!0
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CAST: Hi EFL thanks for agreeing to meet with us.
EFL: We can't comment on your case.
CAST: Okay. Will you meet us again?
EFL: Okay.
CAST: Thanks for your time.21 -
What a bunch of wasters ... after all that has happened to clubs over the last couple of years, and with a new boss, the EFL still have no balls ... beginning to think they could not care less about their members ... lift the transfer embargo if you care, that would at least prove you are trying to make football a cleaner place5
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What a waste of time.0
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Kinda endorses the people pointing the finger at the EFL as treating fans with contempt.2
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Not really, it suggests Elliott not cooperating is why the appeal has stalledcraigcafc said:What a waste of time.1 -
Both organisations equally useless in this situation.1
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The EFL really do not care in the slightest do they???
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Unfortunately it doesn't really suggest anything in the absence of a timescaleLeeds_Addick said:
Not really, it suggests Elliott not cooperating is why the appeal has stalledcraigcafc said:What a waste of time.
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It’s not surprising at all, but you 100% can’t blame them.1
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I can't believe there's no timescale, that's absolutely bonkers.5
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I'm not sure it does say that? It just says both sides have to reach agreement and there is no timeframe to work within.Leeds_Addick said:
Not really, it suggests Elliott not cooperating is why the appeal has stalledcraigcafc said:What a waste of time.
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Ironic that the only thing the EFL were able to say was something that makes them look more fucking stupid than they already did8
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The EFL simply aren't set up to cope with a bad faith actor. Their rules assume that an owner (or potential owner) wants to pass the tests and operate the club. If you make that assumption then everything else makes sense. You assume the tested wants a quick resolution and will quickly agree a fair panel to hear their appeal.
It's the same with the courts. The judges today, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, had to assume that PE wants to buy us and wants to keep us trading. We all know differently, but the system is being exploited by these cockroaches.
The EFLs failure is to a)anticipate bad faith actors and b)to protect the integrity of their own rules23 -
Remember these are the EFL rules agreed and voted for by their members. Not enough is made of that.
The owners of the 91 other clubs should be made perfectly aware of our situation and how strongly we feel about it. The issue would be how many hate Farnell and how many are just as bent as he is!!!5 -
Yeah maybe not, just trying to infer possible reasons for the delaycraigcafc said:
I'm not sure it does say that? It just says both sides have to reach agreement and there is no timeframe to work within.Leeds_Addick said:
Not really, it suggests Elliott not cooperating is why the appeal has stalledcraigcafc said:What a waste of time.0 -
Agreed, the rules are farcical when you have someone who'd sole purpose is to not be disqualified, rather than wanting to be qualifiedrandy andy said:The EFL simply aren't set up to cope with a bad faith actor. Their rules assume that an owner (or potential owner) wants to pass the tests and operate the club. If you make that assumption then everything else makes sense. You assume the tested wants a quick resolution and will quickly agree a fair panel to hear their appeal.
It's the same with the courts. The judges today, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, had to assume that PE wants to buy us and wants to keep us trading. We all know differently, but the system is being exploited by these cockroaches.
The EFLs failure is to a)anticipate bad faith actors and b)to protect the integrity of their own rules
Even then, you'd expect a time limit
AND did Panorama/Kreamer know why Elliott's appeal hasn't happened yet, surely that information would have been relevant today?
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The meeting gave CAST the opportunity to ask a number of questions about events at the club during the last nine months
What were the questions?
What was the exact response to each question?
Where CAST members asked if they wanted to ask any specific questions of the EFL or where they decided on by the CAST Board?
Why are the EFL unable to comment about the current ownership, embargo and OADTs?
What is the current position in regards to the statement the EFL put out in May about concerns of in fighting at the Club taking place on Social media?
Don't the EFL think it's a bit ridiculous not to have timescales in their appeals process? Why don't they add them in - it can't be difficult.
Sorry CAST, but this sounds so similar to the Fans Forum meetings that were taking place last year. It's just a box ticking exercise where absolutely sod all gets resolved and the fans are none the wiser as to what the fuck is going on.
Finally, why wait until after todays hearing to release that statement? It must have taken all of 20 minutes to write it up.
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Addickted said:The meeting gave CAST the opportunity to ask a number of questions about events at the club during the last nine months
What were the questions?
What was the exact response to each question?
Where CAST members asked if they wanted to ask any specific questions of the EFL or where they decided on by the CAST Board?
Why are the EFL unable to comment about the current ownership, embargo and OADTs?
What is the current position in regards to the statement the EFL put out in May about concerns of in fighting at the Club taking place on Social media?
Don't the EFL think it's a bit ridiculous not to have timescales in their appeals process? Why don't they add them in - it can't be difficult.
Sorry CAST, but this sounds so similar to the Fans Forum meetings that were taking place last year. It's just a box ticking exercise where absolutely sod all gets resolved and the fans are none the wiser as to what the fuck is going on.
Finally, why wait until after todays hearing to release that statement? It must have taken all of 20 minutes to write it up.You have to pay £5 to get that info
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I do.3
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I suspect you’re right though!Leeds_Addick said:
Yeah maybe not, just trying to infer possible reasons for the delaycraigcafc said:
I'm not sure it does say that? It just says both sides have to reach agreement and there is no timeframe to work within.Leeds_Addick said:
Not really, it suggests Elliott not cooperating is why the appeal has stalledcraigcafc said:What a waste of time.0
