Paul Smyth on loan from QPR (following progress at Leyton Orient p8)

BigRedEvil

Not the biggest loss. Decent squad player but not much more 

Valley11

Is this more budget tinkering to get players in?

killerandflash

Not a surprise, as to me he's a "bits and pieces" player, not prolific enough to be a striker in a 442, not a hug the touchline winger either

mendonca

We will miss not having a wide right player but sadly for me, he gets a nosebleed anywhere near the goal. We've seen no improvement in that aspect. 

Todds_right_hook

killerandflash said:

Not a surprise, as to me he's a "bits and pieces" player, not prolific enough to be a striker in a 442, not a hug the touchline winger either

And a terrible wing back

Leuth

Apart from two good assists for Chuks he's contributed virtually nothing of note. A good lad but when Maddison's fit he'll offer so much more 

paulie8290

Scoham said:

QPR fan says he’s not being recalled

https://twitter.com/ajmelhuish/status/1353675122100625408?s=21

Yeah but that person also said season long loans dont count in the 5 loans rule, which I'm pretty sure isn't true

https://twitter.com/ajmelhuish/status/1353675430885261313?s=19

Scoham

paulie8290 said:

Scoham said:

QPR fan says he’s not being recalled

https://twitter.com/ajmelhuish/status/1353675122100625408?s=21

Yeah but that person also said season long loans dont count in the 5 loans rule, which I'm pretty sure isn't true

https://twitter.com/ajmelhuish/status/1353675430885261313?s=19

That would mean only half season loans count, agree I’m sure it’s not true.

Rothko

So this is a cap related move? 

Leuth

Rothko said:

So this is a cap related move? 

This is a 'does the guy create chances and goals' move

MattF

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-loanee-set-to-make-qpr-return-as-west-london-club-poised-to-cut-short-spell-in-se7/

golfaddick

so, a player we've been chasing for 3 transfer windows is not very good & is being sent back.

Either says a lot about our scouting system (Gallen) or our management style (Bowyer)

I know who I'd rather trust to get it right.

RedChaser

Or it could be that having had a close look at him over the last three months and restrictions of the cap has made the decision on a permanent move easier to make 🤔.

killerandflash

Yes we regularly crock loanees, but it's never sensible to have more loan players than you can play. Clubs don't loan out players (especially promising ones) just so that they can be squad players.

Scoham

golfaddick said:

so, a player we've been chasing for 3 transfer windows is not very good & is being sent back.

Either says a lot about our scouting system (Gallen) or our management style (Bowyer)

I know who I'd rather trust to get it right.

You wonder where he’s been on the list though, like Bogle it’s hard to believe he was towards the top. Then when you sign him you’re not going to admit he was your 3rd/4th/5th choice.

stoneroses19

golfaddick said:

so, a player we've been chasing for 3 transfer windows is not very good & is being sent back.

Either says a lot about our scouting system (Gallen) or our management style (Bowyer)

I know who I'd rather trust to get it right.

Maybe try trusting both of them. 

BigRedEvil

Tbf Bowyer and Gallen have been shopping in the bargain basement for years due to Roland and ESI.

If we had a budget to spend I don't think Bogle or Smyth would be near the top of any list. 

Todds_right_hook

golfaddick said:

so, a player we've been chasing for 3 transfer windows is not very good & is being sent back.

Either says a lot about our scouting system (Gallen) or our management style (Bowyer)

I know who I'd rather trust to get it right.

Do you remember the previous windows? The ones without a proper owner and where we had to look for favours just to sign David poxy Davis? Our targets and ambition levels may have now changed under a decent owner

cafcsinger

If you're serious about promotion then don't think Smyth is your man. Good luck to him, but he's quick and not much else really. 
I have some sympathy for him, as his pattern of football seemed to be: Start then subbed off at 60 minutes, next game subbed on for last 20 minutes, next game might not even play at all/ subbed on again, repeat.

RedChaser

Todds_right_hook said:

golfaddick said:

so, a player we've been chasing for 3 transfer windows is not very good & is being sent back.

Either says a lot about our scouting system (Gallen) or our management style (Bowyer)

I know who I'd rather trust to get it right.

Do you remember the previous windows? The ones without a proper owner and where we had to look for favours just to sign David poxy Davis? Our targets and ambition levels may have now changed under a decent owner

Don’t you come on here with a sensible and logical assessment of the situation whatever next 😉

robroy

That’s annoying, will need a new right back now to replace him 

killerandflash

Smyth has been on our radar for a long time which slightly surprises me, especially as we were in the Championship for some of that time. It's telling that Wycombe had him in L1 last season but didn't bring him back in the Championship this season

DOUCHER

good news - no room for children in the squad 

FULLERpromise

Echoing in a lot of others people’s thoughts I believe. Having watched every game he has played in from start or off bench he has been very “meh” not an awful footballer, seems to have good attitude etc but just no real end product or game changing level like maybe a Maddison who even if not great attitude or fitness can come of bench and instantly change game with one pass or shot. He also finest even offer height or physicality as well. And Even atm he doesn’t make my 18 and didn’t even make bowyers more importantly and still have a few injuries to come back. 

jams

DOUCHER said:

good news - no room for children in the squad 

whilst i'm very ambivalent about smyth, the squad is too old and could do with some younger players 

Swisdom

Thanks for your efforts Paul but I am hopeful this is a sign we have something or someone lined up who is a little more dynamic in that position.

Like Bogle he is a tryer but doesn't have enough to mark him as a bit different.  A bit vanilla

RC_CAFC

Todds_right_hook said:

golfaddick said:

so, a player we've been chasing for 3 transfer windows is not very good & is being sent back.

Either says a lot about our scouting system (Gallen) or our management style (Bowyer)

I know who I'd rather trust to get it right.

Do you remember the previous windows? The ones without a proper owner and where we had to look for favours just to sign David poxy Davis? Our targets and ambition levels may have now changed under a decent owner

This. This and more of this.

He has great work ethic, which when you’re shopping bargain basement is the first thing you look for. Thought he did quite well against Peterborough on the wing and would have happily kept him on but if we can use the money elsewhere, all for it.

In truth, I think he was brought to play upfront but they soon realised he didn’t have the physicality for it. 

Wish him well. To be honest, the way QPR are playing he could possibly do a job for them.

DOUCHER

can't fault his effort and he wasn't terrible but never really impacted games and everything seemed to nearly happen with him but not quite - definitely not what we need 

Covered End

SouthWest_Addicks said:

Good decision. Not a fan of his at all. Doesn’t create chances, doesn’t score many. Not overly quick or strong. Never going to start unless we have a bad injury crisis. The fact we tried chasing him for three windows was a huge concern.

Good luck in the future. 

Agreed & I did see it coming.

oohaahmortimer

Where’s our cover for right wing back now 🤷‍♂️