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Does non bias exist on home fan commentated coverage ?0
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Yes you can on a browser if you type valley pass into google, and sign in from there.dingdong said:Cab anyone tell me if you can you watch the match on a smart TV?0 -
It would be nice to have a setting, or reduce the price and have a different pricing structure.seth plum said:With most of us watching online the commentary, for me, is even worse.
Yes I know I could turn the sound off, but I want the ambient sound.
(The camera went missing on a couple of occasions too).
I think there is a risk that the commentators bias influences player marks given on Charlton Life, although I will say that the marks we have given to JFC for the Wigan game go against the digging out he was regularly getting from the commentators.
The referee mark didn't, as the bias against the ref paid off in the referee mark.
On Saturday I thought the function of the commentators should have been first and foremost an attempt to describe things for those with sound only, and secondly who the opposition players were would be not easy to pinpoint for the viewer, but with all the changes who our players were was tricky too. The commentators needed to focus on saying which player was doing what and using their names.
I am not against colour and opinion but wish that happened during breaks in play (we had a lot on Saturday for example Alfies claret) and the listener was clearly told there was a break in play.
It must be frustrating to hear stuff about formations, or whether this or that player should be pushing on or covering back, when in the background the listener is aware of play going on.
Why don't the commentators go to the TV gantry? Not a big deal, but they got the Amos save wrong from that Wigan corner and watchers actually contacted the commentators to tell them what they should have told us.
Something like:
£7.50 - Match with/Without Commentary selectable - Valley Pass Subscribers.
£7.50 - Match only, no commentary - non VP Subscriber
£10 - Match and Commentary non VP Subscriber
Not a problem for me anymore though.1 -
LargeAddick said:I know that they are Charlton fans and that at least one posts on here BUT I have to say that I find the commentating pretty poor at times. I can't for the life of me fathom out why they can't have access to the pictures and replays as we do and that may assist them a bit. The constant shout out's also do my head in. Why are they necessary? Can't the people asking for the shout out's just what's app or text whoever they are shouting out to?
I think that the pictures are a good few seconds behind real time , so by the time the replays appear to us the commentators in real time are off in the distance ..so unless they do some jiggery pokery at the ground so the commentators have 'live' pictures i don't believe it's possible2 -
But they will have access to the replays eventually, and there are 2 of them, so one can commentate while the other checks out the replayoohaahmortimer said:LargeAddick said:I know that they are Charlton fans and that at least one posts on here BUT I have to say that I find the commentating pretty poor at times. I can't for the life of me fathom out why they can't have access to the pictures and replays as we do and that may assist them a bit. The constant shout out's also do my head in. Why are they necessary? Can't the people asking for the shout out's just what's app or text whoever they are shouting out to?
I think that the pictures are a good few seconds behind real time , so by the time the replays appear to us the commentators in real time are off in the distance ..so unless they do some jiggery pokery at the ground so the commentators have 'live' pictures i don't believe it's possible
With bad tackles or controversial incidents like penalties, there's usually plenty of "dead time" before play restarts anyway1 -
In my view they should always have got travel, hotels and full fees for providing the service.KBslittlesis said:
I actually think they don’t mind constructive criticism.seth plum said:
(Whispers) I don't think the comms team like the slightest hint of criticism, so I call it feedback.😊Arsenetatters said:seth plum said:With most of us watching online the commentary, for me, is even worse.
Yes I know I could turn the sound off, but I want the ambient sound.
(The camera went missing on a couple of occasions too).
I think there is a risk that the commentators bias influences player marks given on Charlton Life, although I will say that the marks we have given to JFC for the Wigan game go against the digging out he was regularly getting from the commentators.
The referee mark didn't, as the bias against the ref paid off in the referee mark.
On Saturday I thought the function of the commentators should have been first and foremost an attempt to describe things for those with sound only, and secondly who the opposition players were would be not easy to pinpoint for the viewer, but with all the changes who our players were was tricky too. The commentators needed to focus on saying which player was doing what and using their names.
I am not against colour and opinion but wish that happened during breaks in play (we had a lot on Saturday for example Alfies claret) and the listener was clearly told there was a break in play.
It must be frustrating to hear stuff about formations, or whether this or that player should be pushing on or covering back, when in the background the listener is aware of play going on.
Why don't the commentators go to the TV gantry? Not a big deal, but they got the Amos save wrong from that Wigan corner and watchers actually contacted the commentators to tell them what they should have told us.
But apart from that you thinks it's OK?
Thats healthy to improve the set up.
I’m not sure how you can criticise bias, when it’s fans giving comms (& up until very recently) in their own time without any payment.3 -
I personally like the commentary. And the insight.
Having been forced to listen to the opposing team's commentators (Blackburn?) for 45 minutes last season, I can safely say ours are an absolute world apart!
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I think the commentary is very good.8
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If your TV is that smart it probably won't let you watch a Charlton game to save you from disappointment ...dingdong said:Cab anyone tell me if you can you watch the match on a smart TV?3 -
Far too optimistic to be like my mates...Mckforester said:If you don't like the commentary, switch the sound off. I enjoy the banter and accept the bias but agree they should be able to see the replays. As far as I'm concerned it's almost like having 2 mates alongside you at the game.0 -
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Is the commentary biased? Too bloody right it is.
Is it frustrating that @KillersBeard and @StubleyAddick are a) calling the game from the opposite of the pitch to the cameras and therefore see things differently to the viewer; and b) can't see the replays that we can? Sometimes, but to be honest that would be the case if you were listening to our home games with any radio commentary, and I can't imagine that too many grounds in Division Three would have monitors for the radio guys.
I love the fact that we have Charlton fans commentating on our matches, people who actually know who our players are, what's happened with the club recently and over the years; at times the commentary on Sky or other radio stations borders on embarrassing because they haven't got a bloody clue about us.
All power to your microphones, my friends! Carry you on with your red-tinted-glasses style of commentary.6 -
The commentary team have grown on me Stubbers is a bit more straight bat and honest and Killersbeard is straight up biased and we’ve all got mates who see it through rose tinted
I for one am more than grateful to have them and long may it continue, vive la lockdown
fuck being near our moaning minge of a fan base (not everyone )7 -
How much money would the club have made from these games?ForeverAddickted said:0 -
For the Lincoln game, dont they get 500 passes from that number, we get the rest?KentishAddick said:
How much money would the club have made from these games?ForeverAddickted said:
For Doncaster | Sunderland | Wigan, we'd have got roughly £10 for each of those fans, PLUS 500 passes from each of their away teams as we were the home side
Thats reliant of course on League Two (What Colchester's statement said) being the same as League One1 -
Got no problems with comments like these. I admire you being honest 👍LargeAddick said:I know that they are Charlton fans and that at least one posts on here BUT I have to say that I find the commentating pretty poor at times. I can't for the life of me fathom out why they can't have access to the pictures and replays as we do and that may assist them a bit. The constant shout out's also do my head in. Why are they necessary? Can't the people asking for the shout out's just what's app or text whoever they are shouting out to?
Basically, we have had games last year where we had replays (either at the ground or via the stream but delayed) and it worked sometimes but sometimes didn’t and would often distract myself from the actual game.We’ll try it again tonight because it’s as annoying for us as you guys and hopefully that’ll improve the service.
In regards to shoutouts, we’ve tried to limit them to pre-game and some at half time. You’ll be surprised how many messages (some letters too) we get saying thanks for reading certain things out - whether that’s a shout-out about a fan who has passed away or fans with mental health problems getting some confidence.
At the end of the day, we’ll always try and improve the service - no one is perfect!
We love representing the club and appreciate we are very fortunate to be in this position so will always try our best for our fellow fans.
Feel free to DM if there’s anything else we can help with.22 -
As that's the number of households not fans ( a family of 4 who all go together would only buy one pass) the actual numbers watching would be nearer 10000?ForeverAddickted said:2 -
Take my household for example, I go to games on my own but tonight both my Wife and Son could watch if they wantedkillerandflash said:
As that's the number of households not fans ( a family of 4 who all go together would only buy one pass) the actual numbers watching would be nearer 10000?ForeverAddickted said:
Neither show that much interest though0 -
I'm new to Valley Pass and I love the commentary. As someone else said, it's like having mates watching it with you.
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Wait so we get the full £10 for each game? I doubt that.ForeverAddickted said:
For the Lincoln game, dont they get 500 passes from that number, we get the rest?KentishAddick said:
How much money would the club have made from these games?ForeverAddickted said:
For Doncaster | Sunderland | Wigan, we'd have got roughly £10 for each of those fans, PLUS 500 passes from each of their away teams as we were the home side
Thats reliant of course on League Two (What Colchester's statement said) being the same as League One
I'm going to assume we probably get 50% so I think about £20,000 per game, which almost covers almost half of our weekly squad cap costs IF we're the home side...
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https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/september/club-statement/Dazzler21 said:
Wait so we get the full £10 for each game? I doubt that.ForeverAddickted said:
For the Lincoln game, dont they get 500 passes from that number, we get the rest?KentishAddick said:
How much money would the club have made from these games?ForeverAddickted said:
For Doncaster | Sunderland | Wigan, we'd have got roughly £10 for each of those fans, PLUS 500 passes from each of their away teams as we were the home side
Thats reliant of course on League Two (What Colchester's statement said) being the same as League One
I'm going to assume we probably get 50% so I think about £20,000 per game, which almost covers almost half of our weekly squad cap costs IF we're the home side...
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I love our boys commentary through my chosen viewing source I've only heard them twice ( I think) so get the oppo's equally biased voices. Sunderland didn't even send theirs down and were simply watching what we were seeing on tv t'up north, that was shocking. If I wanted someone to talk although way through the football I would of asked my wife to commentate, if Bowyer's shouting at the 4th official I want Terry screaming "chin the winker" I don't want someone saying "something happened off screen we didn't see what it was" More power to them.2
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I quite enjoy the commentary but it's a shame they don't have the same view as we do or have replays available. Just one of those things.0
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When will we see 4,000?.ForeverAddickted said:0 -
I'm guessing SaturdayValley27000 said:
When will we see 4,000?.ForeverAddickted said:0 -
What's the best way to transfer my laptop screen to my TV?
Can it be done wirelessly?0 -
You will need to use HDMI cable depending on the Output from the laptop but most laptops have a HDMI port.1
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It depends on what tv you have, a HDMI lead can also be used to connect laptop to tv if your tv/laptop has the correct sockets.carly burn said:What's the best way to transfer my laptop screen to my TV?
Can it be done wirelessly?3 -
Stream has started, picture of pitch with some players warming up.0
