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England Cricket 2021 (excluding Ashes)

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  • India 4/6 favs.
  • Is there any actual statistical evidence that the 50 over score is usually double the 30 over score ?


  • Two wickets down early doors. 
  • Sounds like after timing, but I can't see any particular reason not to bat first on this pitch.
  • MrOneLung said:
    Is there any actual statistical evidence that the 50 over score is usually double the 30 over score ?


    Yes. Using data for ODIs between 2001 and 2015, the fifty percent score, on average, was reached after 29.2 overs. 


  • Nice one Chizz. 

    Didn’t know if it was fact or just a target 
  • Livingstone looks as good as anyone in this side.

    Great series for him so far.
  • edited March 2021
    Is Livingstone (note not Lawrence) our potential T20 finisher?

    As I've said numerous times previously, I would prefer Root to be batting at 3 and Buttler further down the order. Unfortunately, I don't think the selectors are going to do either as they seem to want Buttler to open and Stokes to bat at 3 so could we see this:

    Buttler (RH)
    Roy (RH)
    Stokes (LH)
    Bairstow (RH)
    Morgan (LH)
    Livingstone (RH)
    Moeen/S. Curran (LH)

    Of course Livingstone could also give you the 2nd/3rd spinning option too

  • I presume so :)
  • We have absolutely thrown this away again. Cheap wickets everywhere.
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  • Laddick01 said:
    We have absolutely thrown this away again. Cheap wickets everywhere.
    Agreed
  • Slimmest of slim chances here, but... it's a chance.
  • Less slim now. Still slim
  • You’ve got to question the umpiring when he think that was doing more than clipping
  • Laddick01 said:
    You’ve got to question the umpiring when he think that was doing more than clipping
    Just came on to say exactly the same - he was jumping and it hit him above the kneeroll...
  • Come on Sam!
  • If those four catches were dropped by certain other countries there would be questions about possible match fixing
  • There was a clear 2 Curran turned down. Gonna cost us
  • Great shame. Sam Curran batted superbly although I do wonder if, on that wicket, he really needed to protect Wood, who is no mug with the bat, to the extent that he did.
  • edited March 2021
    Massive choke at the end unfortunately. 15 runs from last three overs isn’t good enough after you’ve put yourself in a position to win. Turning down runs to keep strike isn’t smart cricket in that position.
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  • Great effort Sam Curran.
  • Well played Sam
  • Really enjoyable tour, nothing much between two excellent teams.
  • Well played Surrey. 
    I meant sam
  • Brilliant innings from Curran but as above he was winding me up turning down simple singles and even then next ball half looking (obviously it’s automatic ) for a tough one before realising.
    Whatever we lost , made a fist of it but being a completely harsh git maybe a bit more faith in Wood may have got the same result .... or maybe not .
  • Ashley Giles has rightly said that England can't stand in the way of players if they want to play in the IPL but "play" might not be the right word. Take the Sunrisers Hyderbad for example. With Jason Roy now enlisted to replace Mitchell Marsh, these are their 8 overseas players:

    David Warner
    Jason Roy
    Jonny Bairstow
    Kane Williamson
    Jason Holder
    Mohammad Nabi
    Rashid Khan
    Mujeeb-Ur-Rahman

    Now Warner is captain so unless he has a run of bad form he will virtually be a fixture. Rashid Khan will be too. So that leaves 2 places for the other 6 players. In a lot of games, one from the three other overseas bowlers will be picked so that leaves one place for Williamson, Bairstow and Roy.



  • On another note, Josh de Caires, Michael Atherton's son (though no one is meant to know that hence Josh using his mother's maiden name) hit a century against a decent Yorkshire bowling attack today for Leeds/Bradford Universities. A chip off the old block.
  • Ashley Giles has rightly said that England can't stand in the way of players if they want to play in the IPL but "play" might not be the right word. Take the Sunrisers Hyderbad for example. With Jason Roy now enlisted to replace Mitchell Marsh, these are their 8 overseas players:

    David Warner
    Jason Roy
    Jonny Bairstow
    Kane Williamson
    Jason Holder
    Mohammad Nabi
    Rashid Khan
    Mujeeb-Ur-Rahman

    Now Warner is captain so unless he has a run of bad form he will virtually be a fixture. Rashid Khan will be too. So that leaves 2 places for the other 6 players. In a lot of games, one from the three other overseas bowlers will be picked so that leaves one place for Williamson, Bairstow and Roy.



    Agreed and they've payed more money for Bairstow and Williamson than Roy so I can't see the purpose for him going there. 

    I understand that there are still some murmurs about his suitability for Indian conditions ahead of the world T20. But I'm sure he'd be better served playing 8 County champ games rather than having the odd net in india.
  • Ashley Giles has rightly said that England can't stand in the way of players if they want to play in the IPL but "play" might not be the right word. Take the Sunrisers Hyderbad for example. With Jason Roy now enlisted to replace Mitchell Marsh, these are their 8 overseas players:

    David Warner
    Jason Roy
    Jonny Bairstow
    Kane Williamson
    Jason Holder
    Mohammad Nabi
    Rashid Khan
    Mujeeb-Ur-Rahman

    Now Warner is captain so unless he has a run of bad form he will virtually be a fixture. Rashid Khan will be too. So that leaves 2 places for the other 6 players. In a lot of games, one from the three other overseas bowlers will be picked so that leaves one place for Williamson, Bairstow and Roy.



    Agreed and they've payed more money for Bairstow and Williamson than Roy so I can't see the purpose for him going there. 

    I understand that there are still some murmurs about his suitability for Indian conditions ahead of the world T20. But I'm sure he'd be better served playing 8 County champ games rather than having the odd net in india.
    Money talks and Roy's got no longevity in red ball. A central England white ball contract plus the Hundred, BBL, IPL etc etc will do the trick for him. 
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