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Ronnie Schwartz (Page 73 - contract cancelled)

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    Just imagine the pelters Mendonca would be getting if he was playing in this side. If you have a "poacher" the you need to get him & the ball into the box at the same time.

    I haven't seen much of Schwartz to comment fully - but its not like he's missing chance after chance. One away somewhere when he fell over, apart from that its 1 goal & I disallowed from probably the only real chances he's had.

    He is like Killer. Dont get him to track back & tackle. Just get the ball into the box & he'll instinctively be there to finish.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    I thought we signed DJ to provide some service along with Millar?
    I think we signed DJ because Swindon  were desperate for money & at the time (transfer deadline day) we were the only low level league club who could pay a transfer fee. I suspect his wages are minimal. I also suspect he wasn't a player that Bowyer expressly wanted but Gallen said it made sense & was one " for the future"  - either for us or for a future fee (like Bonne).
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,461
    People seem to be either saying he was useless or it was impossible for him to be effective as he didn’t get any service. I like him but I’d say the truth is somewhere in the middle.
  • The truth is it wasn't a good signing for me. No experience in the EFL. Played a handful of games all season and is in his 30's.  Echoes of a Roland network player.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,292
    Not sure why we signed him or DJ right now, when all we seem to want to do is pump balls up to Stockley. Maybe in the next few games when we go on this run Bowyers been promising us for 3 months now, we'll see the plan coming together.

    Don't hold your breath
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    Not sure why we signed him or DJ right now, when all we seem to want to do is pump balls up to Stockley. Maybe in the next few games when we go on this run Bowyers been promising us for 3 months now, we'll see the plan coming together.

    Don't hold your breath
    I really wonder how much say, if any, Bowyer has on incoming transfers.  I know there have been quite restricting circumstances but we seem to sign a lot of players he obviously doesn't rate or have the faintest idea how to use.  
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    Oggy Red said:
    Somebody who analyzes the symptoms, but ignores the cause.




    He could have touched the ball, its all well and good saying he's just a finisher but why did we buy him if he's literally not doing anything else?

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  • Oggy Red said:
    Somebody who analyzes the symptoms, but ignores the cause.




    He could have touched the ball, its all well and good saying he's just a finisher but why did we buy him if he's literally not doing anything else?
    He was a Thomas network signing, he will not be here next season.
  • sammy391 said:
    fella would be mustard in the championship, and good in this division if we played balls into the box box crosses high and low.

    He hasn’t even been given a chance under bowyer, whenever he has played it has been as a direct swap with aneke/stockley with tactics remaining the same 

    feel for him
    How would the fella be mustard in the championship? When the teams and quality of defender is far above what we have in this league. What have you seen of him that makes you think that.

    Totally understand he is in a team playing very poorly, and perhaps not to his strengths. But he's barely touched the ball in a match since he has been here.

    Lots of players are 'poachers' and only score goals in the box, but they don't just live in there waiting to receive the perfect ball.

    I've seen nothing from him to convince me, from his stats to what I have seen in real life to make me think he would all of sudden be tearing up the championship! 
  • Thought he played in the wrong games... Should have been on the bench @ Fleetwood, started tonight.

    Saturday was like Northampton, that was never going to play to his style
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    He definitely had at least one touch tonight. He flicked a header on. Analyst must have missed that
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Even the best strikers don't score every chance, they need more than 1 or 2 chances a game. Schwartz isn't getting any. If he was regularly several chances a game I'd agree. He wouldn't be this ineffective at other League 1 clubs.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,036
    I hope that those who are defending him are right and that he is that good a finisher at this level. Then perhaps with a change of system and a bit of confidence he'll get some goals. Even if that is true though I can't help but think we've bought the wrong player. The sad truth is that the rest of our squad aren't good enough to carry a one trick pony, no matter how good the tricks are. We need a forward who can get in there and create something for themselves, not one who waits for everything to be served up on a plate.  
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Oggy Red said:
    Somebody who analyzes the symptoms, but ignores the cause.




    He could have touched the ball, its all well and good saying he's just a finisher but why did we buy him if he's literally not doing anything else?
    Because we needed a finisher?
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    To get the best out of RS we need to play to his strengths. We don't. End of story.

    It was the same with Paul Benson. For a few games we got the ball in the box early and he would score. When we stopped doing that, he stopped scoring. 
  • cafc999 said:
    To get the best out of RS we need to play to his strengths. We don't. End of story.

    It was the same with Paul Benson. For a few games we got the ball in the box early and he would score. When we stopped doing that, he stopped scoring. 
    The new Paul Benson - great 

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    Feel sorry for Schwartz.. needs to service and support already shown her him the ball and he will hit the target .. his movement is top drawer especially without the ball ...... we finally have a goalscorer let’s get the best out of him and get him ready for next season 

  • There is absolutely no point in having a player who has built a reasonably successful career as a penalty box finisher if we spend so little time showing impetus to get the ball into positions to create decent chances. I don't think we really know anything about Schwartz. He wants to get on the end of things that just aren't there. If we aren't going to attack teams like Burton properly and create chances, or bother to show any guile then question why we are recruiting players like Schwartz. Might as well go and get another huff and puff forward to run the channels for no reason.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,461
    Ben18 said:
    He definitely had at least one touch tonight. He flicked a header on. Analyst must have missed that
    That wouldn’t have made such a good tweet though would it?
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,549
    I find myself increasingly feeling sorry for him, and agree with FA that surely today would have been better to start him than Fleetwood? 
    I'm not convinced about him at all though, its very conceivable that the Danish league is very different to English football and generally of lower quality. How on earth some think he'd be mustard in the Championship based on what we've seen is very odd to me. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Funny how everyone feels so sorry for poor Ronnie yet were all happy to slag Bogle off. 

    Despite almost all the excuses being true for him as well. 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,549
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Funny how everyone feels so sorry for poor Ronnie yet were all happy to slag Bogle off. 

    Despite almost all the excuses being true for him as well. 
    Bogle offers more than Ronnie from what i've seen
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Funny how everyone feels so sorry for poor Ronnie yet were all happy to slag Bogle off. 

    Despite almost all the excuses being true for him as well. 
    Bogle offers more than Ronnie from what i've seen
    That's worrying
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134

    People saying that we’re not playing to his strengths, but do any teams in any leagues, let alone one struggling in League One, have a player than can just finish and has nothing else to their game? I can’t think of many. 

    I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see how he is going to succeed at Charlton and, even if he did nick the odd goal here and there, I’d much rather have a Chuks or a Stockley or even Washington who have other qualities.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,015
    He's literally been a no show apart from his debut.
    I can never recall a player in my life who is invisible every game.
    It's quite an achievement.
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    edited February 2021
    Biggest problem in this squad is how awful the midfield is (and that is saying something given how poorly we defend). How many midfielders and midfield formations have we tried since the first part of the 2019/20 season? It exposes our central defenders and makes our centre forwards need to plough their own furrow. Aneke and Stockley have the physicality to overcome this insipidness and create their own chances and have an aerial presence. If you aren't a target man forward good luck with that lot behind you.

    Pratley - Watson - JFC - Shinnie - Gilbey - Morgan - Williams - Maddison - Oztumer - Lapslie, etc. Either over the hill, never been up it or hopelessly chopped and changed into mediocrity.