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No I'm sure some will question if its another network type signing that has been forced on to Gallen and BowyerRedrobo said:
You think fans will turn against a player from the same Country as our new owner because Roland was from Belgium?ForeverAddickted said:
Exactly... I think the fact he's Danish will count against him tooiaitch said:
You mean if he hasn't got a hat trick in the first 10 minutes then he'll be written off....another Polish Pete, Makienok etc etcForeverAddickted said:Biggest thing that worries me about Schwartz is he seems the sort of striker who'll pounce on a loose ball and will be sniffing around the penalty area a lot
Might just be the fact his YouTube highlights dont show that side, but would like to see what his other attributes are like, e.g. bringing others into play, holding the ball up etc.
If he doesnt hit the ground running then am sure a lot will start questioning his transfer, when in fact his contribution will surely be around what his team mates create for him
i.e. Whenever did Wright-Phillips do anything like that, he was constantly on the shoulder of the last defender
If he was a different Nationality playing elsewhere in Europe with a similar scoring record then he'd probably get more leeway
People have been burnt by Roland with his signings so a few probably see Schwartz as a similar signingI think most fans will have far more respect than that.
Especially as I dont think Bowyer / Gallen have signed a player from abroad yet?0 -
Reading some of the comments on here I just don't understand the way some of our supporters think.
We are possibly signing a player (as it's not confirmed yet) who I would guess 99.9% of us have never seen play and yet for some to right him off before he's even put on a Charlton shirt is just unbelievable.
I don't know if this is just a Charlton thing or football supporters in general but ffs at least let's see what the bloke can do before the slagging off starts.
You never know he might be quite good.
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I see him as the new Simon Church.0
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Im optimistic he'll do well but need to have realistic expectations too, he might need a bit of time to settle in and get match fit.
Adding pace to our midfield/attack is what could make the biggest difference.
When Doughty played if teams pressed us high up the pitch we had an outlet and we could punish them, e.g. his goal v Crewe or the own goal he created (can’t remember which game).
If they sit deep to take away that threat that’ll open up space in midfield. Wimbledon tried to do that and with Maddison and Williams both on the pitch we were able to break them down.
There’s a negative feeling at the moment but 2/3 signings could make a huge difference.3 -
Im not expecting Schwartz to hit the ground running but he is going to have to to have an effect on the team. My concern is the lack of pace in the team, that needs addressing and it looks like it will be from Gallens interview this week. Would like us to go for a Sorba Thomas type and also spend some money on young talent with experience.Reading some think Aneke is better than Lyle lol there is no comparison! Lyle scored 25 goals with 10 assists last time out, Chuks struggles to play for an hour and scores from the bench, he has potential but nowhere near the player Taylor was for us.0
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Cawley said it wouldnt be happening till next weekaddick1956 said:Still no announcement by the club yet...I do love a mystery.
It is a mystery why we get our hopes up about another striker who only lives up to his name by being on strike.
I can't get excited by a 31 year old with not much previous who has played in a league that really doesn't match the Scottish leagues and for teams whose names I can't pronounce correctly unless I put a go stopper in my mouth.
Bowyer said we couldnt do anything until Monday, although I dont know why he thinks that as the window opened today0 -
HoHo Bogles fan club, I know you like to bang on about all the goals he has scoredCafc43v3r said:
Obviously you know more about it than say Neil Warnock or Warren Joyce?charltonbob said:
Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed.Chunes said:
Everyone was raving about his hold-up play and workrate but a few weeks ago, funny how quickly the narrative changes with a bad miss.TellyTubby said:
Sorted it for you.Chunes said:
Could well be. Also that the bloke clearly puts a lot of pressure on himself to perform well and score goals, and he just hasn't been doing either.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m wondering if the fact Schwartz has been in training has had an affect on Bogle.Rothko said:Sounds like Schwartz has been Training with the first team for a while, so Bowyer has been able to get a good look at him and obviously likes what he sees
He knows it’s gonna knock him down the order .
I know he wasn’t pulling up trees anyway but his body language has looked appalling in recent times, as if he is carrying the world on his shoulders
is he a personal friend of yours ? Tell me one club above league 2 where he was a success. 1 -
Could someone point me to all these posts from fans writing Schwartz off? I have not seen any.
Just a few that point out it is not a certainty he will be a success, but that seems fair enough on a fans forum and is the same with every player that joins us.1 -
League 2 is above non-league you jebend.charltonbob said:
HoHo Bogles fan club, I know you like to bang on about all the goals he has scoredCafc43v3r said:
Obviously you know more about it than say Neil Warnock or Warren Joyce?charltonbob said:
Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed.Chunes said:
Everyone was raving about his hold-up play and workrate but a few weeks ago, funny how quickly the narrative changes with a bad miss.TellyTubby said:
Sorted it for you.Chunes said:
Could well be. Also that the bloke clearly puts a lot of pressure on himself to perform well and score goals, and he just hasn't been doing either.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m wondering if the fact Schwartz has been in training has had an affect on Bogle.Rothko said:Sounds like Schwartz has been Training with the first team for a while, so Bowyer has been able to get a good look at him and obviously likes what he sees
He knows it’s gonna knock him down the order .
I know he wasn’t pulling up trees anyway but his body language has looked appalling in recent times, as if he is carrying the world on his shoulders is he a personal friend of yours ? Tell me one club above league 2 where he was a success.
7 different managers have signed him to play in league 1 or above, 2 of them Joyce and Warnock have paid money for him yet you KNEW he was non-league before you he even played for us.
I assume your a professional football scout? If not get on the blower to old Colin at Boro, could probably save you him a fortune as you obviously know more about football than him.
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When Ronnie Schwartz signs, can I be the first to say ...... underwhelmed!JohnfromNorfolk said:Wonder how many on here wrote off Yann Kermogant before he kicked a ball for us.
Remember that penalty miss? and 1 goal in 25 games for Leicester.
Not very impressive was it.
That's what quite a few respected posters said when we signed Yann Kermorgant (I didn't mention you AFKA, did I ?)
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Hope Ronnie isnt watching today!1
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Time for Mjolnir to strike down upon Bowyer's management reign.0
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You had too many shandies ? Thanks for letting me know League 2 is above non league, please do let me know where I have suggested otherwise.Cafc43v3r said:
League 2 is above non-league you jebend.charltonbob said:
HoHo Bogles fan club, I know you like to bang on about all the goals he has scoredCafc43v3r said:
Obviously you know more about it than say Neil Warnock or Warren Joyce?charltonbob said:
Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed.Chunes said:
Everyone was raving about his hold-up play and workrate but a few weeks ago, funny how quickly the narrative changes with a bad miss.TellyTubby said:
Sorted it for you.Chunes said:
Could well be. Also that the bloke clearly puts a lot of pressure on himself to perform well and score goals, and he just hasn't been doing either.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m wondering if the fact Schwartz has been in training has had an affect on Bogle.Rothko said:Sounds like Schwartz has been Training with the first team for a while, so Bowyer has been able to get a good look at him and obviously likes what he sees
He knows it’s gonna knock him down the order .
I know he wasn’t pulling up trees anyway but his body language has looked appalling in recent times, as if he is carrying the world on his shoulders is he a personal friend of yours ? Tell me one club above league 2 where he was a success.
7 different managers have signed him to play in league 1 or above, 2 of them Joyce and Warnock have paid money for him yet you KNEW he was non-league before you he even played for us.
I assume your a professional football scout? If not get on the blower to old Colin at Boro, could probably save you him a fortune as you obviously know more about football than him.
7 different managers have signed him you say, lucky him but you haven't answered my question & named one club above league 2 where he was a success.
Oh by the way although a keen amateur in my youth I have never played for us.
A jebend ? I guess you didn't want to be the only one
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Interesting analysis.SheedyCAFC said:
From which we may conclude:
Ronnie is reasonably mobile.
Has good movement, knack of losing his marker and finding space in the box..
Will drift out wide, before cutting inside. Able to thread a pass and assist.
Likes to shoot; oh, boy, does he like to shoot.
Scores most of his goals in the box.
Not so strong in the air.
Sounds like he's got some similar attributes and positioning of Lyle Taylor.
Be good if he's got a bit of guile and ability to do the unexpected.
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Same as Bogle...but only because his marker has his feet up with a cigar.Oggy Red said:
Interesting analysis.SheedyCAFC said:
From which we may conclude:
Ronnie is reasonably mobile.
Has good movement, knack of losing his marker and finding space in the box..
Will drift out wide, before cutting inside. Able to thread a pass and assist.
Likes to shoot; oh, boy, does he like to shoot.
Scores most of his goals in the box.
Not so strong in the air.
Sounds like he's got some similar attributes and positioning of Lyle Taylor.
Be good if he's got a bit of guile and ability to do the unexpected.4 -
A big problem with Bowyer is he thought Pratley was playing well......he was out of position constantly mistimed challenges and beaten for pace....scary6
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You said he was non-league before we signed him yet are now saying he was a success in league 2. Thus making your own argument void. If you want to spout shit to fit your agenda at least remember the last pile of bollocks you came out with.charltonbob said:
You had too many shandies ? Thanks for letting me know League 2 is above non league, please do let me know where I have suggested otherwise.Cafc43v3r said:
League 2 is above non-league you jebend.charltonbob said:
HoHo Bogles fan club, I know you like to bang on about all the goals he has scoredCafc43v3r said:
Obviously you know more about it than say Neil Warnock or Warren Joyce?charltonbob said:
Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed.Chunes said:
Everyone was raving about his hold-up play and workrate but a few weeks ago, funny how quickly the narrative changes with a bad miss.TellyTubby said:
Sorted it for you.Chunes said:
Could well be. Also that the bloke clearly puts a lot of pressure on himself to perform well and score goals, and he just hasn't been doing either.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m wondering if the fact Schwartz has been in training has had an affect on Bogle.Rothko said:Sounds like Schwartz has been Training with the first team for a while, so Bowyer has been able to get a good look at him and obviously likes what he sees
He knows it’s gonna knock him down the order .
I know he wasn’t pulling up trees anyway but his body language has looked appalling in recent times, as if he is carrying the world on his shoulders is he a personal friend of yours ? Tell me one club above league 2 where he was a success.
7 different managers have signed him to play in league 1 or above, 2 of them Joyce and Warnock have paid money for him yet you KNEW he was non-league before you he even played for us.
I assume your a professional football scout? If not get on the blower to old Colin at Boro, could probably save you him a fortune as you obviously know more about football than him.
7 different managers have signed him you say, lucky him but you haven't answered my question & named one club above league 2 where he was a success.
Oh by the way although a keen amateur in my youth I have never played for us.
A jebend ? I guess you didn't want to be the only one
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Schwartz appears to be the poacher type striker which is good news, my main concern is with bowyers negative tactics meaning he doesnt play Williams or Maddison there is going to be no one to feed the new man.12
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I've no idea how well Ronnie will ultimately do for us, but I strongly believe we won't find out for a while.
I expect to hear how he "needs to be brought up to fitness" for a while.
I'll stick my neck out and say I bet he doesn't start a game until February2 -
I asked the Head Danish FM researcher about Schwartz when we were first expecting to sign him. He didn’t have much to say other than he felt he’d work best in a 2 striker formation alongside a target man.1
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Although, according to the analysis above, last season he has played the lone striker role.Scoham said:I asked the Head Danish FM researcher about Schwartz when we were first expecting to sign him. He didn’t have much to say other than he felt he’d work best in a 2 striker formation alongside a target man.
Bowyer generally likes 2 strikers in tandem, however.
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Ooh touchy throwing in a couple naughty words, that does make you sound clever. Now please show me where I said he was non league before we signed him & actually it was you who said he was successful at Grimsby in one of your posts a couple of months ago pointing out all the goals he had scored half of those were in the National league the other half in league 2. That is why I asked where he had been successful above league 2 but you were unable to answer that or anything else I have asked regarding your mate bogle so I think that makes you void rather than my argument.Cafc43v3r said:
You said he was non-league before we signed him yet are now saying he was a success in league 2. Thus making your own argument void. If you want to spout shit to fit your agenda at least remember the last pile of bollocks you came out with.charltonbob said:
You had too many shandies ? Thanks for letting me know League 2 is above non league, please do let me know where I have suggested otherwise.Cafc43v3r said:
League 2 is above non-league you jebend.charltonbob said:
HoHo Bogles fan club, I know you like to bang on about all the goals he has scoredCafc43v3r said:
Obviously you know more about it than say Neil Warnock or Warren Joyce?charltonbob said:
Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed.Chunes said:
Everyone was raving about his hold-up play and workrate but a few weeks ago, funny how quickly the narrative changes with a bad miss.TellyTubby said:
Sorted it for you.Chunes said:
Could well be. Also that the bloke clearly puts a lot of pressure on himself to perform well and score goals, and he just hasn't been doing either.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m wondering if the fact Schwartz has been in training has had an affect on Bogle.Rothko said:Sounds like Schwartz has been Training with the first team for a while, so Bowyer has been able to get a good look at him and obviously likes what he sees
He knows it’s gonna knock him down the order .
I know he wasn’t pulling up trees anyway but his body language has looked appalling in recent times, as if he is carrying the world on his shoulders is he a personal friend of yours ? Tell me one club above league 2 where he was a success.
7 different managers have signed him to play in league 1 or above, 2 of them Joyce and Warnock have paid money for him yet you KNEW he was non-league before you he even played for us.
I assume your a professional football scout? If not get on the blower to old Colin at Boro, could probably save you him a fortune as you obviously know more about football than him.
7 different managers have signed him you say, lucky him but you haven't answered my question & named one club above league 2 where he was a success.
Oh by the way although a keen amateur in my youth I have never played for us.
A jebend ? I guess you didn't want to be the only one1 -
I merely stated some reasons why my first impression is one of skepticism. People are allowed their opinions, would make for a dull forum if every signing we made people blindly said they’re always going to do well.redbuttle said:
I don't know if our fanbase is unique but we certainly have a lot who write players off before they start to play for us.iaitch said:
Not writing him off but you really want to judging by your staements.cafcsinger said:Hasn’t played in 6 months.
Never played in English football before.
Has previous with injuries.
31 years old so presumably past his best.I’m not writing him off, but strikes me as a bit of a punt to be honest. Prove me wrong Ronnie!
Past his best at 31, that Ronaldo chap is doing ok at 35.1 -
"Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed. "charltonbob said:
Ooh touchy throwing in a couple naughty words, that does make you sound clever. Now please show me where I said he was non league before we signed him & actually it was you who said he was successful at Grimsby in one of your posts a couple of months ago pointing out all the goals he had scored half of those were in the National league the other half in league 2. That is why I asked where he had been successful above league 2 but you were unable to answer that or anything else I have asked regarding your mate bogle so I think that makes you void rather than my argument.Cafc43v3r said:
You said he was non-league before we signed him yet are now saying he was a success in league 2. Thus making your own argument void. If you want to spout shit to fit your agenda at least remember the last pile of bollocks you came out with.charltonbob said:
You had too many shandies ? Thanks for letting me know League 2 is above non league, please do let me know where I have suggested otherwise.Cafc43v3r said:
League 2 is above non-league you jebend.charltonbob said:
HoHo Bogles fan club, I know you like to bang on about all the goals he has scoredCafc43v3r said:
Obviously you know more about it than say Neil Warnock or Warren Joyce?charltonbob said:
Not everyone. He's a non league player, said it the moment he signed.Chunes said:
Everyone was raving about his hold-up play and workrate but a few weeks ago, funny how quickly the narrative changes with a bad miss.TellyTubby said:
Sorted it for you.Chunes said:
Could well be. Also that the bloke clearly puts a lot of pressure on himself to perform well and score goals, and he just hasn't been doing either.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m wondering if the fact Schwartz has been in training has had an affect on Bogle.Rothko said:Sounds like Schwartz has been Training with the first team for a while, so Bowyer has been able to get a good look at him and obviously likes what he sees
He knows it’s gonna knock him down the order .
I know he wasn’t pulling up trees anyway but his body language has looked appalling in recent times, as if he is carrying the world on his shoulders is he a personal friend of yours ? Tell me one club above league 2 where he was a success.
7 different managers have signed him to play in league 1 or above, 2 of them Joyce and Warnock have paid money for him yet you KNEW he was non-league before you he even played for us.
I assume your a professional football scout? If not get on the blower to old Colin at Boro, could probably save you him a fortune as you obviously know more about football than him.
7 different managers have signed him you say, lucky him but you haven't answered my question & named one club above league 2 where he was a success.
Oh by the way although a keen amateur in my youth I have never played for us.
A jebend ? I guess you didn't want to be the only one4 -
Don't want to derail this thread but it seems Pratley and Watson are untouchable.ct_addick said:A big problem with Bowyer is he thought Pratley was playing well......he was out of position constantly mistimed challenges and beaten for pace....scary
No matter how badly they play they're never dropped and never criticised. If Morgan or Williams put in some of the performances they've had this season, they'd be called out or in the U23s.7 -
Seems like they thought that too and sorted that out yesterdayChris_from_Sidcup said:
Don't want to derail this thread but it seems Pratley and Watson are untouchable.ct_addick said:A big problem with Bowyer is he thought Pratley was playing well......he was out of position constantly mistimed challenges and beaten for pace....scary
No matter how badly they play they're never dropped and never criticised. If Morgan or Williams put in some of the performances they've had this season, they'd be called out or in the U23s.0 -
Cool. Just need to convince John Toshack, Mick Jones or Bobby Smith to signScoham said:I asked the Head Danish FM researcher about Schwartz when we were first expecting to sign him. He didn’t have much to say other than he felt he’d work best in a 2 striker formation alongside a target man.
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Are you sure... https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/lee-bowyer-has-say-after-darren-pratley-is-sent-off-during-charltons-loss-at-hull/Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Don't want to derail this thread but it seems Pratley and Watson are untouchable.ct_addick said:A big problem with Bowyer is he thought Pratley was playing well......he was out of position constantly mistimed challenges and beaten for pace....scary
No matter how badly they play they're never dropped and never criticised. If Morgan or Williams put in some of the performances they've had this season, they'd be called out or in the U23s.
Bowyer explained: “Darren is out for three games. Not only has he cost us for today, I’ve said to him you’ve let us down there. You’ve cost us. He obviously apologised but it’s not just about today, it’s the next three games as well. He’s going to be a big missed because he’s done well for us.
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