Bowyer won’t be sacked this season, certainly not now, would be crazy to make that decision the day after the transfer window closes.
Not saying I agree with it, but that’s how I see it.
Agree give him to the end of the season and review then.
Why wait for the inevitable? I really don’t get this attitude.
The excuses are drying up now.
I’m sure Bowyer said after the Rochdale debacle that that would never happen with a Pratley or a Watson on the pitch.
The players are so scared to not show they’re weak after the public shaming of Albie, Williams and Maddison that they’ve forgotten how to play football. The amount of stupid fouls we gave away tonight was horrendous.
I’m incredibly thankful for everything he’s done for the club over the past few years but we need to get out of this league and we’re not going to do it with him in charge.
I’m just a little uneasy with getting rid without giving a chance after the window.
I am one of the first people to call for stability and patience something which is lacking in football now days, the club has been run short term for so long I wanna give a bit more time.
I understand i might be in a minority now and I certainly am critical of team selection, tactics and chopping around this season but prepared to give the benefit of a bit more time.
Mistakes have been made no denying that, all managers make mistakes I just want to give the opportunity to learn from them and fix it otherwise you could be changing managers so often which I am not a fan off.
Bowyer has done some very good things as manager I don’t necessarily wanna give up on him the first bad patch.
Nothing to do with emotion hoof it give the bloke a chance after the latest transfer window to the end of the season not one day ffs!
Just out of interest @Dazzler21 what amuses you about this post pray do tell. You don’t have to lol every persons post you disagree with, respect other people’s opinions. I thought you were better than that.
Just a warning, all those saying get rid and expect a replacement like Cowley, Cook or whatever. There’s also the chance it could be a Dane or an American, or someone linked through one of Sandgaard associates with no UK football experience. Wouldn’t surprise me.
And look where that got Brentford we need someone with no association with this club. To most people bowyer is now bigger then our club they support him more then charlton he can do no wrong in there eyes
I always thought one of the fans beef with Roland was he kept hiring Managers who didnt know the English game?
Thats why he suddenly changed tact and brought in Slade and then Robinson
I mean brining in a Danish manager it's hasn't done them bad has it and I would take anything to have Thomas Frank at this club over the shit we've got now
Whats the difference?
Roland brings in a Belgian Manager because he's Belgian Sandgaard brings in a Danish Manager because he's Danish
Or do the Danes have special abilities over the Belgians to understand the English league better than their counterpart?
Just because Thomas Frank gets it doesnt mean the next bloke Sandgaard hires will, whatever country they're from
Actually agree with this. If we are to hire a new manager, they need to be familiar with the English game.
Personally I only believe we are considering that Sandgaard would bring in a Danish manager is because RD did it, not all owners will. We have Roddy and Gallen as part of our management team to help advise on who would be best.
To be fair to Roland and to play devils advocate with my own post, bringing in foreign managers is nothing new
If Sandgaard does it its not going to be another revolutionary approach, even down in the lower leagues of the EFL
Roland's issue though was like Driesen with his players - He didnt do his research and presumed that one league is the same as all others so if someone can do it somewhere they can do it anywhere.
We have got a decent group of players who should be doing better
I'm just not of the opinion that changing manager will suddenly turn everything around as quick as everyone likes and expects
Its why I said on another post that if Sandgaard has doubts about Bowyer then he does have to go before the end of the season so the new man has time to assess, else we're wasting time and everyone else staying at this level will get the jump on us AGAIN next season
Yep agree with all of that, I didn't say not a foreign manager, just one that is familiar with the English game.
If we're going by 9 game chunks, Saturday is the last of chunk 3 and if we don't win that'll be a maximum of 9 points from 9 games. 13 pts from the 9 before and 19 from 9 in the first 9 games.
Chunk 1 Starting at Crewe ending with Portsmouth - 18 Pts - 2PPG Chunk 2 Starting at Fleetwood Ending with Plymouth - 13pts - 1.44 PPG Chunk 3 Starting at Hull ending with Rochdale - Maximum 11pts (currently 8 pts) - 1.22 PPG We're progressively getting worse. If we continue to lose on average 3.5pts per chunk I'll call it 3pts per chunk. Chunk 4 Could be - 8 pts - 0.88 PPG Chunk 5 Could be - 5 pts - 0.55 PPG
Obviously life isn't linear like that and I expect us to maintain around 1-1.5 ppg.
Let's be optimistic and say it's the higher of those, that means after 46 games our total could be 69 points On current PPG we should hit 71 pts.
It's been a weird season and I honestly don't think the uncertainty in the first transfer window helped us. The squad was put together in 3 weeks after TS takeover. How many of these players did LB actually want or did he have to settle for these? Obviously it's too soon to reflect on Jan's business which in all honest doesn't look that bad. In my opinion I want to see him have a full summer window with the backing of a decent owner.
We went on a good little run with these new signings,when they played with abit of freedom,it was only when they had been coached for a time,they then got worse’erer’...🤪,can’t all have turned into bad signings/players at the same time...???
The transfer window has only just closed and almost all of us have agreed that it was a good window overall: good players in and bit-part players out. Top six is still achievable. For me, the only time to consider a change is when it's mathematically impossible to make top six. If we fail to do so, I have little doubt that TS will make the change, regardless.
This thread is so depressing. I loathe the throw away attitude of supporters these days. It's not just in relation to managers. There were plenty of people on hear during Roland's tenure, and then under Southall and co, promoting the idea of a phoenix club, when we very clearly still had a club to fight for. There's people on here saying that the season is over, talking about rebuilding for next season, and getting a new manager in now so that he can assess the squad properly ahead of next season. We're outside of the play-offs on goal difference. However badly we're playing at the moment, this season is far from over.
However, apparently a poor two or three months is now a terminal decline rather than just a sticky spell. Thank god attitudes were different in the days of Curbs and Chris Powell - most of you lot would have sacked Curbs 3 times before we got to the Premier League and then you'd have sacked him again once a season while we were in the Premier League. Chris Powell would have been sacked before he assembled our title-winning side. And obviously if you'd been born Man United fans then you'd have got rid of Fergie long before he won the FA Cup in 1990.
It's going badly at the moment, there's no doubt about that. There's plenty of excuses you can make - a hastily assembled squad that didn't get a proper pre-season together, the loss of Innis and Famewo, the hectic fixture list that makes consistent selection impossible - but it's a crap division and we've got a strong squad that should be doing better than it is, so ultimately Bowyer has to take the blame. But that doesn't mean we have to sack him. We could give him a fair chance to turn it around, to show that he's learning from his mistakes. From a sentimental perspective, after two and a half years of single-handedly keeping the club afloat, I think he's earned that. But putting sentiment aside, our current manager has done a good job here for all but 3 months in nearly three years. Surely it's less of a gamble to keep him and give him a chance to gel the squad he's put together, than it would be to bring someone new in.
Firstly, as far as I am concerned, Sandgaard has saved my club so he can do as he wants. My criticism of Bowyer is not and will never be a criticism of him. I think he has an important decision to make though. People are writing off the season, and it is clear if he doesn't change the manager, we are going nowhere. But we still have 20 games and that is enough for a new manager to do similar to what Bowyer did when he first came in.
Does Sandgaard believe we have a squad strong enough to do it? I do, but that doesn't matter. If he does, every game he lets this go on makes it harder to do it. We are at a point where we probably don't have four games to play with.
This thread is so depressing. I loathe the throw away attitude of supporters these days. It's not just in relation to managers. There were plenty of people on hear during Roland's tenure, and then under Southall and co, promoting the idea of a phoenix club, when we very clearly still had a club to fight for. There's people on here saying that the season is over, talking about rebuilding for next season, and getting a new manager in now so that he can assess the squad properly ahead of next season. We're outside of the play-offs on goal difference. However badly we're playing at the moment, this season is far from over.
However, apparently a poor two or three months is now a terminal decline rather than just a sticky spell. Thank god attitudes were different in the days of Curbs and Chris Powell - most of you lot would have sacked Curbs 3 times before we got to the Premier League and then you'd have sacked him again once a season while we were in the Premier League. Chris Powell would have been sacked before he assembled our title-winning side. And obviously if you'd been born Man United fans then you'd have got rid of Fergie long before he won the FA Cup in 1990.
It's going badly at the moment, there's no doubt about that. There's plenty of excuses you can make - a hastily assembled squad that didn't get a proper pre-season together, the loss of Innis and Famewo, the hectic fixture list that makes consistent selection impossible - but it's a crap division and we've got a strong squad that should be doing better than it is, so ultimately Bowyer has to take the blame. But that doesn't mean we have to sack him. We could give him a fair chance to turn it around, to show that he's learning from his mistakes. From a sentimental perspective, after two and a half years of single-handedly keeping the club afloat, I think he's earned that. But putting sentiment aside, our current manager has done a good job here for all but 3 months in nearly three years. Surely it's less of a gamble to keep him and give him a chance to gel the squad he's put together, than it would be to bring someone new in.
Agree with this Largo. I’m not overly enamoured with the quality of football being served up this season, and I think Bowyer has made a few mistakes along the way, but I’m definitely in the camp of giving him the whole of next summer to get it right. TS literally got the takeover agreed with one month to get players in. Prior to that, players were being brought in under the uncertainty of ESI etc. For me, we had a month in August, and a month in Jan, all under the salary cap.
We made a few mistakes in Bogle and Maddison, but they’ve been moved on. I don’t think anyone out there would get more out of the current team. Yes, the team are playing poorly and I’m sure another manager may have a different approach, but I do think a lot of the problems stem from the inability of our players. Bowyer stays for me regardless of whether or not we get top 6, and he gets the whole of next summer to get us back to a team we can believe in
In a strange sort of way I can't help thinking that the desire to have cover in every position (and potential formation) is actually clouding LB's decision making - he actually has had too many options this season.
Take a look at these stats:
46 used in all competitions
33 used in the League (all will have started once Smith and Jayesimi do so). By comparison, Accrington, who have the same number of points with 4 games in hand, have only had 20 start. Lincoln, who will go top if they draw their game in hand, have only had 19 starting.
The self imposed confusion is, of course, most relevant when it comes to selecting our best midfield and forward line from this lot:
Pratley Watson Morgan Vennings Forster-Caskey Gilbey Shinnie Smith Millar Jayesimi Washington Aneke Stockley Schwartz
14 current players for 6 positions. That's 3,003 different permutations available and it feels as if LB is working his way through all of them! How do you develop any continuity or understanding when you have that many options? And if we ever decide to play 5 at the back that will leave 9 of the above sitting on the bench or in the stands. No wonder the cap is an issue and we couldn't bring in a centre back in the window.
The reason the likes of Accrington and Lincoln are doing so well is because John Coleman and Michael Appleton have decided how they want their teams to play with the players they have at their disposal. And they will only make minor adjustments to that, I really do not think that LB is any nearer knowing the answer - and we are now well over half way through the season!
Agreed, this obsession with "2 players for every position" mantra just leaves you with a bloated squad of players with a similar level, rather than a clear 1st team, back up and kids squad.
What's our first choice midfield at the moment? If we for example play 442 with Millar and Jayesimi on the wings, we need 2 central midfielders. If we play 433 we'll need 3 central midfielders. Take your pick from JFC Pratley Watson Smith Shinnie Morgan Gilbey
That's 7 players to fill 2 or 3 positions, not even including the likes of Vennings and Henry.
But putting sentiment aside, our current manager has done a good job here for all but 3 months in nearly three years. Surely it's less of a gamble to keep him and give him a chance to gel the squad he's put together, than it would be to bring someone new in.
23 wins out of 72 games isn't doing that well, Bowyer has been overly defensive since Oct/Nov 2019 not just since 2020. If you can't see that, you're still being sentimental and choosing to ignore that period of time. He got last season as his free hit that he earned and was given in spite of the situation we were in regarding ownership.
This season he still signed 11 players and chose to sell/loan out two of those 11 just 4 months later, returned Smyth and Levitt to their parent clubs and got in decent looking replacements for those (Smith & Millar). We've also to the Sandgaard Gallen Bowyer credit signed Stockley, Schwartz and Jaiyesimi who should also improve us. I'm all for giving him another 5-10 games as I think the argument around signings is fair, but we cannot let it go on too long as a new manager will want maybe 10 games to truly assess and understand who to keep/move on and who to replace them with.
A new manager may or may not re-invigorate this team, one thing is for sure though if we keep doing the same thing time and time again and expecting a different result we're all mad.
At the end of the day TS is a businessman first and foremost. I like everyone else is just grateful that he turned up when he did and saved us from the crooks. He has already shown by bringing in commercial back office people that he is looking to the future of the club. He has also been true to his word and backed the club in the transfer market. Anyone who thinks that he is going to invest money into the club and then not see results that are going to back up his future plans because of some sense of sentiment for the manager is deluded. If things dont change very quickly then LB will be gone no doubt about that in my mind. Unfortunately I dont see things improving as I'm not sure LB can do positive football. He was the right man for the job when the backs were against the wall but in this current set up I think he is well out of his depth. I really hope not but that is my gut feeling
A good alternative tactic for Sandgaard would be to wait until Bowyer says or does something he can fire him for without a pay out. He missed a trick if he did not give him a written warning in relation to the Maddison injury comments.
I'm actually starting to hope they do sack him now, if only to make this place tolerable again. We're on a bad run, but now every time we get a result that's not a win this and several other threads explode with the exact same set of posters writing the exact same thing over and over for days. You can almost feel the glee when the final whistle goes and people can migrate to this thread within minutes to start it up again. There's already two pages more posts on yesterday's post-match thread than there were in total on the MK Dons one. It's the same bickering over and over and it's exhausting. At least with a new manager it might be a couple of weeks before it all starts up again.
I'm actually starting to hope they do sack him now, if only to make this place tolerable again. We're on a bad run, but now every time we get a result that's not a win this and several other threads explode with the exact same set of posters writing the exact same thing over and over for days. You can almost feel the glee when the final whistle goes and people can migrate to this thread within minutes to start it up again. There's already two pages more posts on yesterday's post-match thread than there were in total on the MK Dons one. It's the same bickering over and over and it's exhausting. At least with a new manager it might be a couple of weeks before it all starts up again.
People are always more vocal in complaining about something than celebrating.
I'm actually starting to hope they do sack him now, if only to make this place tolerable again. We're on a bad run, but now every time we get a result that's not a win this and several other threads explode with the exact same set of posters writing the exact same thing over and over for days. You can almost feel the glee when the final whistle goes and people can migrate to this thread within minutes to start it up again. There's already two pages more posts on yesterday's post-match thread than there were in total on the MK Dons one. It's the same bickering over and over and it's exhausting. At least with a new manager it might be a couple of weeks before it all starts up again.
Absolute nonsense. Sick and tired, of hearing 'you can almost feel the glee' when we lose mantra from some people on here, people are completely entitled and justified to be exhausted with Bowyer. I know I am.
AFKA complained that Bowyer outers insinuating that some people love Bowyer more than the club are insulting fellow fans. What is Garrymanilow doing suggesting there is glee at poor results? I can assure him it is quite the opposite.
Season is over. Playing the way we are the playoffs are out of reach for Bowyer and team. Because of that I say keep Bowyer and look to start next season with a completely new team (yes get rid of everyone not contracted). In the summer also look at the management and coaching teams right through the club as something is not right. The football is consistently poor and there seems to be no team mentality. That issue is the manager and coaches fault. Bring on next season and challenge for auto promotion.
If he has 18 months left on his contract and a decent payout, it's highly unlikely anything immediate will be happening.
It'll ultimately cost TS a lot more if we're stuck in league one for two years.
Maybe but what’s to say we’re definitely going to get promoted next season with or without Bowyer. There’s no guarantees in football and I don’t have a crystal ball either.
But putting sentiment aside, our current manager has done a good job here for all but 3 months in nearly three years. Surely it's less of a gamble to keep him and give him a chance to gel the squad he's put together, than it would be to bring someone new in.
23 wins out of 72 games isn't doing that well, Bowyer has been overly defensive since Oct/Nov 2019 not just since 2020. If you can't see that, you're still being sentimental and choosing to ignore that period of time. He got last season as his free hit that he earned and was given in spite of the situation we were in regarding ownership.
This season he still signed 11 players and chose to sell/loan out two of those 11 just 4 months later, returned Smyth and Levitt to their parent clubs and got in decent looking replacements for those (Smith & Millar). We've also to the Sandgaard Gallen Bowyer credit signed Stockley, Schwartz and Jaiyesimi who should also improve us. I'm all for giving him another 5-10 games as I think the argument around signings is fair, but we cannot let it go on too long as a new manager will want maybe 10 games to truly assess and understand who to keep/move on and who to replace them with.
A new manager may or may not re-invigorate this team, one thing is for sure though if we keep doing the same thing time and time again and expecting a different result we're all mad.
Seems unfair to state our first season back in the championship as Bowyer’s “free hit”. Not sure of many managers that would have done better last season, and most would have done a runner in January once the ESI shit show hit new levels of chaos.
I've never said there's glee at bad results, you should read what I wrote more carefully. I'm saying that there are plenty of people who delight in the opportunity to start up this and other threads again and begin their 'look I was right' or 'I think I'm a football manager when I'm actually a bloke on a message board' or 'I knew Lee had lost the dressing room' spiel, which has no variation from the last time they posted it. In some ways I envy these people, because while I'm just feeling bad after a disappointing result they get to temper their frustration with the clear enjoyment they take in posting in this and similar threads. That's what I'm finding increasingly difficult to deal with on here, there's very little debate or nuance in threads like this, it's just the same. I'm not happy with how things are going either but when the forum becomes a spot just for rage and the same postings over and over again then it starts becoming about as enjoyable as the matches have been. At least if we boot him out the door there might be a break from that for a few weeks.
Nothing to do with emotion hoof it give the bloke a chance after the latest transfer window to the end of the season not one day ffs!
Just out of interest @Dazzler21 what amuses you about this post pray do tell. You don’t have to lol every persons post you disagree with, respect other people’s opinions. I thought you were better than that.
Yeah I don’t know why you do this @Dazzler21 (and others, it’s not just you).
You put thought into being open and providing an honest, serious post, and then someone hits a laugh button. It’s really annoying and makes you think why bother posting. Disagree with the view, but don’t laugh. I’m sure you don’t mean for it to offend, but I know it winds me up so I’m sure it does others as well.
It’s hard enough posting through this when things aren’t going well as it is.
Nothing to do with emotion hoof it give the bloke a chance after the latest transfer window to the end of the season not one day ffs!
Just out of interest @Dazzler21 what amuses you about this post pray do tell. You don’t have to lol every persons post you disagree with, respect other people’s opinions. I thought you were better than that.
Yeah I don’t know why you do this @Dazzler21 (and others, it’s not just you).
You put thought into being open and providing an honest, serious post, and then someone hits a laugh button. It’s really annoying and makes you think why bother posting. Disagree with the view, but don’t laugh. I’m sure you don’t mean for it to offend, but I know it winds me up so I’m sure it does others as well.
It’s hard enough posting through this when things aren’t going well as it is.
Sorry, couldn’t resist!!!
agree though, just because someone disagrees with a comment, it gets lol’d. Maybe there should be a disagree button.
I have lol’d back in retaliation before, I promise that I will stop this childish behaviour.
Couldn’t have put it better myself @Garrymanilow but of course you know what you’ll get now is the usual ‘’well if you don’t like this thread don’t open it’’.
We’re all Charlton fans who only want the best for the club, social media has a lot to answer for in creating division and unrest. I think I’ll now take that advice in speech marks above. I’m out.
I think from the appointments made behind the scenes and the attention to detail being paid to the nuts and bolts of the club that there is definitely a plan in Sandgaard's mind.
It looks to me like he's planning to pretty much go right back to basics and start as near from scratch as possible. In some ways I think the actual football side of things has taken something of a lesser importance compared to having a properly run organization of an actual club - in contrast to both ESI and RD who saw it as a chance to try and get money out, TS seems to favour the view "speculate to accumulate." Put money in now and it will sow dividends later on.
In the short term I think this probably does equate to Bowyer being safe for this season. He'll most likely have some hard and fast targets and requirements set in the summer that will make or break him after due course (maybe already happened from LB's "top six" comments last night.)
We can argue amongst ourselves whether or not this is right or wrong but my hunch is that Sandgaard and his advisors are thinking longer term and further ahead than looking at results right now. Come the end of season, that will be when he acts.
But putting sentiment aside, our current manager has done a good job here for all but 3 months in nearly three years. Surely it's less of a gamble to keep him and give him a chance to gel the squad he's put together, than it would be to bring someone new in.
23 wins out of 72 games isn't doing that well, Bowyer has been overly defensive since Oct/Nov 2019 not just since 2020. If you can't see that, you're still being sentimental and choosing to ignore that period of time. He got last season as his free hit that he earned and was given in spite of the situation we were in regarding ownership.
This season he still signed 11 players and chose to sell/loan out two of those 11 just 4 months later, returned Smyth and Levitt to their parent clubs and got in decent looking replacements for those (Smith & Millar). We've also to the Sandgaard Gallen Bowyer credit signed Stockley, Schwartz and Jaiyesimi who should also improve us. I'm all for giving him another 5-10 games as I think the argument around signings is fair, but we cannot let it go on too long as a new manager will want maybe 10 games to truly assess and understand who to keep/move on and who to replace them with.
A new manager may or may not re-invigorate this team, one thing is for sure though if we keep doing the same thing time and time again and expecting a different result we're all mad.
I think that any criticism of Bowyer's performance in the championship last season is absurd and just shows a complete inability to understand the bigger picture. The key fact is that we had a far lower budget than all the other 23 teams in that division. We started every game at a disadvantage to our opponents, and that's without taking account of all the nonsense that was going on in the background. It's a miracle that he kept us competitive - we had the luxury of feeling unfortunate to get relegated, when the cards we were dealt dictated that we should have finished rock-bottom and 20 points adrift of safety.
I have to say, I find it really bizarre when people aren't able to understand the wider situation. I've heard a Newcastle fan on the radio this week complaining that Steve Bruce plays overly defensive football and that he should play with the attacking intent of Kevin Keegan's Newcastle. Kevin Keegan had Alan Shearer, Peter Beardsley, Les Ferdinand and David Ginola. I've a sneaking suspicion that, if Steve Bruce had Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jack Grealish and Phil Foden in his squad, he'd probably play a more attacking brand of football. But he hasn't, so he has to cut his cloth accordingly.
Same with us last season. Nothing to do with sentimentality. To play open, attacking football, you need to either throw an absolute fortune at your squad, or accept that you're going to get relegated.
Love Bowyer, true club legend but nostalgia doesn't win you games.
I've seen the script, he finishes the season, has a full window, moans about the same wage restrictions that everyone else has. Gets sacked in December, new management come in with there own desires so rebuild.. 2022-23 has his first full season to attack promotion, miss out in the playoffs and 2023-24 we go up after fannying around in this league for 5 years.
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If we're going by 9 game chunks, Saturday is the last of chunk 3 and if we don't win that'll be a maximum of 9 points from 9 games. 13 pts from the 9 before and 19 from 9 in the first 9 games.
Chunk 1 Starting at Crewe ending with Portsmouth - 18 Pts - 2PPG
Chunk 2 Starting at Fleetwood Ending with Plymouth - 13pts - 1.44 PPG
Chunk 3 Starting at Hull ending with Rochdale - Maximum 11pts (currently 8 pts) - 1.22 PPG
We're progressively getting worse. If we continue to lose on average 3.5pts per chunk I'll call it 3pts per chunk.
Chunk 4 Could be - 8 pts - 0.88 PPG
Chunk 5 Could be - 5 pts - 0.55 PPG
Obviously life isn't linear like that and I expect us to maintain around 1-1.5 ppg.
Let's be optimistic and say it's the higher of those, that means after 46 games our total could be 69 points On current PPG we should hit 71 pts.
but seems they have...why...?
However, apparently a poor two or three months is now a terminal decline rather than just a sticky spell. Thank god attitudes were different in the days of Curbs and Chris Powell - most of you lot would have sacked Curbs 3 times before we got to the Premier League and then you'd have sacked him again once a season while we were in the Premier League. Chris Powell would have been sacked before he assembled our title-winning side. And obviously if you'd been born Man United fans then you'd have got rid of Fergie long before he won the FA Cup in 1990.
It's going badly at the moment, there's no doubt about that. There's plenty of excuses you can make - a hastily assembled squad that didn't get a proper pre-season together, the loss of Innis and Famewo, the hectic fixture list that makes consistent selection impossible - but it's a crap division and we've got a strong squad that should be doing better than it is, so ultimately Bowyer has to take the blame. But that doesn't mean we have to sack him. We could give him a fair chance to turn it around, to show that he's learning from his mistakes. From a sentimental perspective, after two and a half years of single-handedly keeping the club afloat, I think he's earned that. But putting sentiment aside, our current manager has done a good job here for all but 3 months in nearly three years. Surely it's less of a gamble to keep him and give him a chance to gel the squad he's put together, than it would be to bring someone new in.
Does Sandgaard believe we have a squad strong enough to do it? I do, but that doesn't matter. If he does, every game he lets this go on makes it harder to do it. We are at a point where we probably don't have four games to play with.
What's our first choice midfield at the moment? If we for example play 442 with Millar and Jayesimi on the wings, we need 2 central midfielders. If we play 433 we'll need 3 central midfielders. Take your pick from
JFC
Pratley
Watson
Smith
Shinnie
Morgan
Gilbey
That's 7 players to fill 2 or 3 positions, not even including the likes of Vennings and Henry.
This season he still signed 11 players and chose to sell/loan out two of those 11 just 4 months later, returned Smyth and Levitt to their parent clubs and got in decent looking replacements for those (Smith & Millar). We've also to the Sandgaard Gallen Bowyer credit signed Stockley, Schwartz and Jaiyesimi who should also improve us. I'm all for giving him another 5-10 games as I think the argument around signings is fair, but we cannot let it go on too long as a new manager will want maybe 10 games to truly assess and understand who to keep/move on and who to replace them with.
A new manager may or may not re-invigorate this team, one thing is for sure though if we keep doing the same thing time and time again and expecting a different result we're all mad.
You put thought into being open and providing an honest, serious post, and then someone hits a laugh button. It’s really annoying and makes you think why bother posting. Disagree with the view, but don’t laugh. I’m sure you don’t mean for it to offend, but I know it winds me up so I’m sure it does others as well.
It’s hard enough posting through this when things aren’t going well as it is.
agree though, just because someone disagrees with a comment, it gets lol’d. Maybe there should be a disagree button.
I have lol’d back in retaliation before, I promise that I will stop this childish behaviour.
We’re all Charlton fans who only want the best for the club, social media has a lot to answer for in creating division and unrest. I think I’ll now take that advice in speech marks above. I’m out.
It looks to me like he's planning to pretty much go right back to basics and start as near from scratch as possible. In some ways I think the actual football side of things has taken something of a lesser importance compared to having a properly run organization of an actual club - in contrast to both ESI and RD who saw it as a chance to try and get money out, TS seems to favour the view "speculate to accumulate." Put money in now and it will sow dividends later on.
In the short term I think this probably does equate to Bowyer being safe for this season. He'll most likely have some hard and fast targets and requirements set in the summer that will make or break him after due course (maybe already happened from LB's "top six" comments last night.)
We can argue amongst ourselves whether or not this is right or wrong but my hunch is that Sandgaard and his advisors are thinking longer term and further ahead than looking at results right now. Come the end of season, that will be when he acts.
I have to say, I find it really bizarre when people aren't able to understand the wider situation. I've heard a Newcastle fan on the radio this week complaining that Steve Bruce plays overly defensive football and that he should play with the attacking intent of Kevin Keegan's Newcastle. Kevin Keegan had Alan Shearer, Peter Beardsley, Les Ferdinand and David Ginola. I've a sneaking suspicion that, if Steve Bruce had Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jack Grealish and Phil Foden in his squad, he'd probably play a more attacking brand of football. But he hasn't, so he has to cut his cloth accordingly.
Same with us last season. Nothing to do with sentimentality. To play open, attacking football, you need to either throw an absolute fortune at your squad, or accept that you're going to get relegated.
I've seen the script, he finishes the season, has a full window, moans about the same wage restrictions that everyone else has. Gets sacked in December, new management come in with there own desires so rebuild.. 2022-23 has his first full season to attack promotion, miss out in the playoffs and 2023-24 we go up after fannying around in this league for 5 years.