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Bohemian Rhapsody-Film.

Apologies if covered before.


Was lucky enough to see Queen 3 times live (Earls Court '77, Wembley and Lewisham) so went to the cinema in 2018 to see the film. Thought it pretty good. Going through Prime this evening was pleased to see its on there now.
Not sure if it's a Queen thing but on a cinema screen I thought it was like a "live" show, on TV it seems to have to lost some of its strength. 

Now watching the original 1984 Live Aid set on YouTube, man, Queen owned that day !
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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Was a good film but the fact that some of the main parts of the story were fabricated and timelines wrong spoiled it for me.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    I enjoyed the film 
  • As a Queen/Freddie fan I thought it was terrible. Could’ve gone a lot deeper hence why Sasha Baron Cohen pulled out of the film. I can’t remember the name of it but there was a really good documentary on Freddie on Channel 5 a few years back where the man playing Freddie really looked like him.
  • I loved it. It is not a documentary, it is a story based around truth. Watch it like that and you will enjoy it.  
  • I was unlucky enough to see Queen live (Hyde Park, 1975, the light show was good, Kiki Dee was better) so I have no interest in seeing this film.  I'm not even sure why I came to this thread.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Watched it last night for the first time coincidentally. I thought it was disappointing. 

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Before my son was old enough to take driving lessons on a road, to set him up, we booked him car familiarity lessons on a private road. When we got there, we saw, in the middle of a field, an exact replica of the Live Aid stage. It turned out to be for this film. 
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    They also used Bromley College and a road in ladywell for filming locations 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,371
    Enjoyed it. The story does have a few parts in it which either aren’t quite true or are exaggerated/out of position, but if you just watch it for what it is then I think it’s very good. Certainly exceeded expectations.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited February 2021
    I doubt there are many films that are 100% true. They have to prioritise maximising the entertainment rather than give a history lesson. They also have to keep certain people on board. What you get, ultimately, is a flavour.
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  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,368
    I liked it and much better than the Elton film. Think they should’ve stayed as Mott the Hoople’s support band though. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    kafka said:
    I liked it and much better than the Elton film. Think they should’ve stayed as Mott the Hoople’s support band though. 
    Ahhh Mott ... now there’s a genuinely superb band ... amazing live and on record 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Didn’t enjoy it, had way too much of Brian May’s finger prints all over it. The amount of time spent on the creation of the worst song in human history, We Will Rock You, alone should have had it cancelled before its release. 

    I think a film about Freddy Mercury’s childhood/upbringing would be great however.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,054
    Have very good mates who are huge fans and we spent a lot of time together as youngsters, but I never got it. Was into The Jam, Madness and The Specials and just never liked Queen.  Didn’t get Queen then and still don’t, but would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    TelMc32 said:
    Have very good mates who are huge fans and we spent a lot of time together as youngsters, but I never got it. Was into The Jam, Madness and The Specials and just never liked Queen.  Didn’t get Queen then and still don’t, but would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
    That's because you clearly have some taste in music 😂

    Never have and never will watch the film but read that it brushes over his sexuality. That was odd at the time (many of the bands homophobic fans were in denial) but unforgivable now.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,054
    edited February 2021
    TelMc32 said:
    Have very good mates who are huge fans and we spent a lot of time together as youngsters, but I never got it. Was into The Jam, Madness and The Specials and just never liked Queen.  Didn’t get Queen then and still don’t, but would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
    That's because you clearly have some taste in music 😂

    Never have and never will watch the film but read that it brushes over his sexuality. That was odd at the time (many of the bands homophobic fans were in denial) but unforgivable now.
    😂

    I will change channels if they come on the radio or TV.  

    Did a mate’s stag do at Lingfield races a few years ago and they had a Queen tribute band on. I couldn’t think of anything worse and just carried on drinking. The others were loving it, but came a cropper trying to dance as the ground got muddier beneath them. Most of them ended up on their arses in the mud, which was far more entertaining that listening to Queen 😉
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    It doesn't brush over his sexuality, it just doesn't go into intricate detail about it. It was clear he was having gay orgies in the film but the message was of him being used/exploited rather than him enjoying them. It also showed him finding a genuine person who loved him at the end of the film which I think was true.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    TelMc32 said:
    Have very good mates who are huge fans and we spent a lot of time together as youngsters, but I never got it. Was into The Jam, Madness and The Specials and just never liked Queen.  Didn’t get Queen then and still don’t, but would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
    That's because you clearly have some taste in music 😂

    Never have and never will watch the film but read that it brushes over his sexuality. That was odd at the time (many of the bands homophobic fans were in denial) but unforgivable now.
    Having seen the film, I’m not convinced that’s true ...but obviously I am seeing it from a non-gay perspective. 

    Rami Malek, who plays Mercury, also agrees:

    I don't think the film shies away from his sexuality or his all-consuming disease, which is obviously AIDS. I don't know how you could avoid any of that, or if anyone would ever want to.’

    Malek also discussed the ways that Bohemian Rhapsody addresses Mercury's battle with HIV/AIDS in the latter years of his life.

    The film needed to approach it in a delicate manner," he explained. "You can't shy away from it. It was an important moment to have in the film, one that ultimately is very sad but also empowering in a way. 

    ‘It shows you just how resilient human beings can be and how much we rely on the strength of our friends and family to get us through tough times. This pandemic is still very much a horrific threat to so many people in the world. It exists as a reality for so many that I think it would be a shame not to address it.’


    https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a866054/bohemian-rhapsody-star-rami-malek-defends-movie-freddie-mercury-sexuality/

  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    I am not a huge Queen fan, although I do regret only seeing them live once (I don't count the Queen and Paul Rodgers gig).

    I really enjoyed the film and I didn't notice that certain things had been moved in the timeline. I suppose not being really into them allowed me to take the film as it was intended - a fictional account of real events.

    Of the rockumentary films out there, I think it's one of the best. I heard a rumour Boy George is next - wonder how much of his private life they will "gloss over". :smile:
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,371
    The real life story of Freddie Mercury’s life between 1986 and his death in 1991 is very interesting, and of course very sad.

    Brian May and Roger Taylor have told incredible stories of the times Mercury was too ill to do much else besides sing each song 2-3 times in recording, with the view that the band would finish everything off after he died.

    Freddie’s final album, titled Innuendo, was intended to be exactly that - an album filled with hidden meanings around what was really going on in the background. The Show Must Go On is the most prominent example. 
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  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    TelMc32 said:
    Have very good mates who are huge fans and we spent a lot of time together as youngsters, but I never got it. Was into The Jam, Madness and The Specials and just never liked Queen.  Didn’t get Queen then and still don’t, but would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
    That's because you clearly have some taste in music 😂

    Never have and never will watch the film but read that it brushes over his sexuality. That was odd at the time (many of the bands homophobic fans were in denial) but unforgivable now.
    Don’t believe all you read, absolute rubbish.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    I've not seen the film, I'd rather watch Millwall winning, @Hartleypete but clearly others who have disagree with you.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/11/16/18071460/bohemian-rhapsody-queerphobia-celluloid-closet-aids

    The Elton John movie doesn't have this problem and is a very good film. It's obviously got a much, much better soundtrack too.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited February 2021
    Bohemian Rhapsody wasn't a film about a gay man. It was a film about the talent of the group with a main focus on a creative genius who was also gay. There may be another film that can be made about Mercury's sexuality, but this film was about his creativity, genius and music. It shouldn't be criticised for not being that film.

    At no point did it deny his sexuality or try to hide it. You knew he was having orgies but there wasn't any need to show them in detail. You knew he had aids but sometimes less is more and the tragedy of it was not skirted around. The scene where he was walking down the corridor, after getting his diagnosis, when he interacted with a patient with full blown AIDS was moving.

    Ultimately the film was intended to be a celebration and it was well acted and sensitive.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,740
    edited February 2021
    I loved it . 
    There are many people who did nothing but pick holes in it . ( even people who haven’t watched it unbelievably ) 
    That’s their loss.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Also, when Mercury told the group he had AIDS, that scene explained what the film was all about. He didn't want the rest of his life to be about AIDS but his music.  
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    It was not a documentry so some truths were always going happen.

    I thought it was great and Rami played Freddie to a tee.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    It's a really badly made film, possibly up there as one of the worst of all time for a high-profile movie, let alone an Oscar winning one - mainly because Bryan Singer is an absolute wrong-un and hardly bothered directing it (Dexter Fletcher came in and did a lot of the work instead). The scene where they meet John Reid while sitting outside has gone down in infamy for how badly shot and edited it is. And it won an Academy Award for editing! It's bizarre how well it did for awards given how bad some of it is. Some of the acting is incredibly woode, and Brian May's involvement makes a lot of it questionable and cheesy (I believe that's why Sacha Baron Cohen dropped out of the project early on) Still, it's quite a fun watch!  
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,371
    I was actually really impressed with how closely matching the actors were for the characters of Brian May and John Deacon, especially their voice/look. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Valley11 said:
    Watched it last night for the first time coincidentally. I thought it was disappointing. 

    It has so much more impact watching it on the big cinema screen.

    Funny how it comes across as a bit of an ITV Saturday night drama at home on the telly.


  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    cafctom said:
    I was actually really impressed with how closely matching the actors were for the characters of Brian May and John Deacon, especially their voice/look. 
    Brian May was particularly uncanny, but it did make me feel rather old though when I found out that the actor playing John Deacon was the little boy in the first Jurassic Park.