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Roy Hodgson on overambition for Palace.
Addick_and_Chips
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/21/roy-hodgson-warns-crystal-palace-fans-about-the-dangers-of-overambition
Just knew we would get a mention...🙄
Just knew we would get a mention...🙄
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Christ on a bike, this myth just keeps on rolling.Addick_and_Chips said:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/21/roy-hodgson-warns-crystal-palace-fans-about-the-dangers-of-overambition
Just knew we would get a mention...🙄14 -
Same old bollox. How the fack would he know what Charlton fans wanted. Wonder if he still believes in the easter bunny and father xmas. He ought to retire like they did..
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As soon as I saw the headline I knew what was coming. Really disappointing that managers, as well as pundits and journalists seem to spread this myth when discussing Charlton.7
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It’s cos you Cnuts didn’t understand we were properly punching and wanted more
the opposite of now where some tug themselves off with a win against MK Dons
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Spoke to a Palace fan this morning, who wants him out the door, 1 year left on his contract (4 million a year!) and lots of players contracts up in the Summer, thinks the football they are playing is turgid, and they need fresh impetus, and a rebuild, Eddie Howe incoming?
Lose tonight v Brighton , and against Fulham and Roys on shaky ground with the fans.2 -
Luckily for us their fans don't hire and fire managers so we might be lucky enough to see them crumple enough to take Fulham's place.Mendonca In Asdas said:Spoke to a Palace fan this morning, who wants him out the door, 1 year left on his contract (4 million a year!) and lots of players contracts up in the Summer, thinks the football they are playing is turgid, and they need fresh impetus, and a rebuild, Eddie Howe incoming?
Lose tonight v Brighton , and against Fulham and Roys on shaky ground with the fans.
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A better comparison might be with Brighton
Under Hughton they just about managed to stay up every season, but played conservative football. Brighton then replaced him with a younger, more "progressive" manager in Potter, with the result that they play slightly more attractive football, but are in a similar league position, still fighting to avoid relegation.2 -
All I have to add for tonight is "Come on You Seagulls" .
Sadly, I think there are too many sides in the Prem working hard to be worse than the One Man Team of Diving Specialists. Baggies and Blades adrift, only one relegation spot up for grabs and sad to say the Nigels are better than Fulham, Newcastle and probably Brighton.4 -
Unfortunately this. No matter how bad they are, there is always at least 3 worse than them. Not sure if that would be the case of they lost Zaha though.rananegra said:All I have to add for tonight is "Come on You Seagulls" .
Sadly, I think there are too many sides in the Prem working hard to be worse than the One Man Team of Diving Specialists. Baggies and Blades adrift, only one relegation spot up for grabs and sad to say the Nigels are better than Fulham, Newcastle and probably Brighton.5 - Sponsored links:
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They'll go down once Zaha finally leaves2
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I pray they go down, they have been so jammy over the years.
Cannot stand that club and fans.15 -
does any one really takes any notice what this guy has to say?
He was in charge of an England side that were knocked out by a country who's contributions to the world are volcanic ash and Bjork.6 -
He’s not wrong though is he...5
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Can’t stand Hodgson. That showing at Euro 2016 was pathetic and he doesn’t accept his personal failure for not knowing his best team.
Two big wins needed for Brighton and Fulham to make this interesting. Need Newcastle to sort it out and sort being so terrible. Can’t see past Newcastle going down.The good thing is that they are definitely getting worst and now just making the numbers up in the top-flight. Absolutely certain they will finish below the likes of Burnley and Brighton. Only disappointment is that there won’t be any Nigels on TV crying this year if they do go down.1 -
Mendonca In Asdas said:Spoke to a Palace fan this morning, who wants him out the door, 1 year left on his contract (4 million a year!) and lots of players contracts up in the Summer, thinks the football they are playing is turgid, and they need fresh impetus, and a rebuild, Eddie Howe incoming?
Lose tonight v Brighton , and against Fulham and Roys on shaky ground with the fans.I dislike everything about Palace and I don't care for Hodgson either, but football really is getting quite depressing. Palace were incredibly lucky to get promoted to the Prem the season they were. They benefited hugely from some poor refereeing decisions and Zaha's ability to win penalties fairly and unfairly - they were awarded 19 (NINETEEN!) penalties that season, including multiple penalties in the same game on 6 different occasions. They only won one of their last 10 games in the league and limped into the play-offs, where they won the final with a penalty. They then proceeded to always survive by the skin of their teeth through desperate managerial changes every season, with Parrish always doing well to get in your classic short-term football firefighters at the right moments. The one time they tried to be a bit more expansive they brought in de Boer and he got sacked after 4 games with no goals scored. In comes Hodgson, who is now in an unprecedented 4th year in the Prem with them. They aren't good to watch but they never really look like a team who are going to get relegated while he's there, all this despite the fact he's had to do it with Jordan Ayew and Christian Benteke as his strikers and a revolving door of some of the worst goalkeepers you could imagine having in the Premier League. They can't or won't spend their way out of their situation, their stadium is an absolute joke of a historical relic and they really don't have the profile of a team who should have spent as long in the Premier League as they have given their infrastructure, backing and historical pull. Despite that they're 14th, have three teams behind them ahead of the drop zone in a league where the first two relegation spots are basically already settled, and are 7 points ahead of and a game in hand over a terrible Fulham side.What are they going to rebuild? Unless they can clone Wilfried Zaha they don't have the money to do a full rebuild and they are only surviving with their weak squad because Hodgson somehow always manages to get them to nick enough points to stay at the top table. The football's turgid because when you've got hardly any money to spend unless you sell your best player you have to be solid more than anything else. Alternatively, you can enjoy trying to play expansive football in a lower division, but you can't realistically have both the way they go about business. And yet they want him to go because they feel like they deserve more. Palace are on borrowed time at this level, as is every smaller club, they all get their year eventually, and cutting off the exact thing that keeps you there is insane. But also sod 'em, sack him. It'll be hilarious.9 -
The most important thing I took out of that article is that Hodgson will be celebrating his 50th wedding anniversary this year.
A convocation of eagles 🦅 fly-by would seem appropriate. Or a routine at the anniversary bash by the Crystal Meths cheerleaders, or whatever they’re known as these days.0 -
Given it's their big "derby" tonight and they pretend to ignore Charlton, it's strange and unsurprising they would bring us up
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All I have to say is....their stadium.
Fulham have definitely done the right thing in their stadium development...dunno how much it's cost them, but for Crystal Palace in the medium to long term, all the time they play in that appalling dump they will never be serious contenders for anything.
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the same people calling for bowyer's head are the same that wanted rid of curbs.
Which should tell you all you need to know.7 - Sponsored links:
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The majority of Charlton fans either on here appear to state they did not want Curbs to go, so yes he is wrong if you're saying we wanted him gone?EugenesAxe said:He’s not wrong though is he...
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So Hodgson said this,
“People need to be careful,” he said. “When Alan Curbishley left Charlton many years ago, they were constantly in the top half of the table, it was because fans were not happy and thought that finishing in the top half wasn’t enough and that they needed to kick on. They did, they kicked downwards and that is the only problem. You have to be careful."
We've all heard the "Charlton fans wanted him out" bullshit in the past, but this is now suggesting that this WAS the reason he left - due to the fans wanting him gone - which is even bigger bullshit.
There was no collective campaign to get rid of him. Sure, a few idiots rang up phone-ins to say he should go and I can even remember a couple of the people I went with at the time suggesting that maybe his time had come, but then you always get some idiots who want to sack the manager regardless of what has or hasn't gone on.
The vast majority of fans clearly wanted him to stay, but we understood why he was leaving, wished him well and have welcomed him back at almost every opportunity since (the big exception being when he managed West Ham against us!)15 -
I cant remember anyone around me wanting Curbs to go, yes grumbling about not winning comfortably every week but not wanting him to go.
There were a few Toby's who called 606 up to have a whinge but I don't believe they represented the match going support, this does appear to the be the go-to default story for lazy journalism/punditry, hugely blown out of proportion and little based in fact.
Grumbling, 'I wonder if Curbs has taken us as far as we can go' after drawing at home to Southampton is very different from 'they all wanted him out and then looked what happened'
Below is my overriding memory of the feeling when he did move on.
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It wasn't Curbs leaving that screwed us. It's the muppet who we appointed after.12
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I was referring to him implying that CP may nosedive if he leaves, and that fans don’t necessarily know what’s best, also we shouldn’t assume someone is referring to the ‘majority’ when citing it as an exampleDazzler21 said:
The majority of Charlton fans either on here appear to state they did not want Curbs to go, so yes he is wrong if you're saying we wanted him gone?EugenesAxe said:He’s not wrong though is he...0 -
OK Scott Minto, even though Curbs is on record already (VOTV interview?) saying it was not pressure from fans, ask him directly tomorrow evening.
Then send a recording of his answer to every media outlet, and particularly Roy Hodgson, and tell him to stick the recording up his arse.10 -
14 fucking seasons and counting them twunts been above us
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No one really gives a flying fuck about us in all honesty, apart from us , unfortunately, third tier chuffseth plum said:OK Scott Minto, even though Curbs is on record already (VOTV interview?) saying it was not pressure from fans, ask him directly tomorrow evening.
Then send a recording of his answer to every media outlet, and particularly Roy Hodgson, and tell him to stick the recording up his arse.4 -
And if you want another good laugh
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/crystal-palace-identity-crisis-brighton-crucial-period-decide-future-b920739.html
Apparently, their feared Ultras (well in their dreams) think Palace lack pride, ambition and vision. No argument from me there.2 -
kentaddick said:the same people calling for bowyer's head are the same that wanted rid of curbs.
Which should tell you all you need to know.
I'm sorry? With curbishley we reached a ceiling of where we could be and the club could go no further. Comfortable premier league club. Under bowyer we are heading towards mid table league 1!!!!. Are we supposed to accept that?2
