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Chuks Aneke red card overturned
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Obviously I wasn't suggesting that the referee slagged Bowyer off after the match, but after every game, players and managers moan about every mistake officials make, when in the course of a game they make far fewer mistakes than the players and officials. The alternative if you want 100% accuracy (ha ha) is VARstoneroses19 said:
What are you talking about? When is formation or substitutions by a manager ever fully justified to be criticised by an official? Bizarre post to make.killerandflash said:
The officials would also have been fully justified in criticising Bowyer for some of his decisions that game!RedChaser said:The ref got two big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.
Indeed I sometimes suspect managers like having a decision go against them as it gives them a distraction for their post match press conferences.1 -
Can we get the result overturned too ?? Missed our top goal scorer for the end of the match when we pushing for an equaliser.....7
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Whats the point, will only come on for 20 minutes when we’re 2 nil down0
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This is the 9th bit of Charlton related good news I’ve had in my 46 years of supporting Charlton.27
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Watson's reaction was quite telling, I thought. Did a reply show no contact? It certainly looked like the Seasider threw himself to the floor.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned0 -
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.1 -
Are we 100% the disallowed goal was onside. The footage I saw was a bit hard to judge.0
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2.36?!RedChaser said:The ref scored 2.36 in the players marks, the lowest for this and last season says it all 😏.
How did he score so high?2 -
Good news. The fat prick (ref, not Chuks) was a disgrace.2
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I think bowyer has said it was the linesman’s decision to disallow Stockley’s goal.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.0 -
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Yeah massive surprise but I think it was harsh and the right decision to rescind. Haha, wonder if Bowyer will leave him on the bench anyway. Who knows0
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Great news. Need the efl to provide more training for these refs. Not an isolated incident.
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That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.
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Yes the analyst said so, and Curbs, Lisbie and Minto agreed it was a goal on VP post match.MuttleyCAFC said:Are we 100% the disallowed goal was onside. The footage I saw was a bit hard to judge.1 -
Oh great, now we can concede silly goals and finished mid table with a slightly higher chance of scoring for the next four games.0
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What exactly is he supposed to do if his linesman flags for offside? He can hardly ignore it or overrule it unless, of course, he was in line with Stockley when the ball was crossed.RedChaser said:
That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.0 -
I couldn't stick the post matchRedChaser said:
Yes the analyst said so, and Curbs, Lisbie and Minto agreed it was a goal on VP post match.MuttleyCAFC said:Are we 100% the disallowed goal was onside. The footage I saw was a bit hard to judge.
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A minor point. It’s taken them more than 48 hrs to correct that excuse of a referees decision. Decisions on team and tactics presumably had to assume Aneke would miss the match so that incorrect decision has potentially costs us for tomorrow night’s match as well. Surely these appeals should be dealt with by Sunday night when there are so many midweek matches.0
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Nothing, except take it on the chin, have a debrief with his assistant post match, hold his hands up and apologise. In the absence of knowing he’s done any of that he has to take the flack.superclive98 said:
What exactly is he supposed to do if his linesman flags for offside? He can hardly ignore it or overrule it unless, of course, he was in line with Stockley when the ball was crossed.RedChaser said:
That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.0 -
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Superb! El Bow needed someone to ignore/substitute/play 20 minutes!0
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Get real!RedChaser said:
Nothing, except take it on the chin, have a debrief with his assistant post match, hold his hands up and apologise. In the absence of knowing he’s done any of that he has to take the flack.superclive98 said:
What exactly is he supposed to do if his linesman flags for offside? He can hardly ignore it or overrule it unless, of course, he was in line with Stockley when the ball was crossed.RedChaser said:
That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.1 -
I am real we’re going to have to agree to disagree you don’t think he should criticised for the offside goal fair enough but I do. Are you a qualified ref? 😉superclive98 said:
Get real!RedChaser said:
Nothing, except take it on the chin, have a debrief with his assistant post match, hold his hands up and apologise. In the absence of knowing he’s done any of that he has to take the flack.superclive98 said:
What exactly is he supposed to do if his linesman flags for offside? He can hardly ignore it or overrule it unless, of course, he was in line with Stockley when the ball was crossed.RedChaser said:
That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.0 -
You don't need to be a qualified referee to know that it is wrong to criticise a referee for an honest mistake of his linesman.RedChaser said:
I am real we’re going to have to agree to disagree you don’t think he should criticised for the offside goal fair enough but I do. Are you a qualified ref? 😉superclive98 said:
Get real!RedChaser said:
Nothing, except take it on the chin, have a debrief with his assistant post match, hold his hands up and apologise. In the absence of knowing he’s done any of that he has to take the flack.superclive98 said:
What exactly is he supposed to do if his linesman flags for offside? He can hardly ignore it or overrule it unless, of course, he was in line with Stockley when the ball was crossed.RedChaser said:
That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.
If that were to be the case then you might as well do away with linesmen altogether (some are so bad that you might as well do away with them!).0 -
No way has that been overturned , the whole footballing world is against us1
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Such a bad season when we’re clinging to this as something positive. Nothing against Aneke, but him being available to play tomorrow is about as exciting as getting Russell Slade to read me his tactical playbook from his time here as a bed time story.0
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It's positive when your top goal scorer is available to play. Chuks gives 100% every game. Both him and Stockley never stop trying.
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I didn’t say you had to be a qualified referee, I was just interested if you were, in case I’d touched a raw nerve.superclive98 said:
You don't need to be a qualified referee to know that it is wrong to criticise a referee for an honest mistake of his linesman.RedChaser said:
I am real we’re going to have to agree to disagree you don’t think he should criticised for the offside goal fair enough but I do. Are you a qualified ref? 😉superclive98 said:
Get real!RedChaser said:
Nothing, except take it on the chin, have a debrief with his assistant post match, hold his hands up and apologise. In the absence of knowing he’s done any of that he has to take the flack.superclive98 said:
What exactly is he supposed to do if his linesman flags for offside? He can hardly ignore it or overrule it unless, of course, he was in line with Stockley when the ball was crossed.RedChaser said:
That’s a reasonable point of view but he leads the team of officials the senior man in command, so the buck stops with him on behalf of his crew.superclive98 said:
Was it the referee who got the offside "goal" decision wrong or the linesman? I assume that it was the linesman.RedChaser said:The ref got two three* big decisions wrong, the Stockley offside goal that wasn’t and Chucks sending off, not that the latter mattered much in the overall scheme of things but Bowyers criticism of the officials was fully justified on this occasion.*and the second pen when he was conned
He may have been shit but it's a bit unfair to blame him for somebody else's mistake.
If that were to be the case then you might as well do away with linesmen altogether (some are so bad that you might as well do away with them!).
Of course he can’t be expected to see round corners but he gave the goal so its now about accountability on behalf of his team.If one of my team at work had made a cock up, I’d own the problem, take the flack and whatever action was necessary to try to prevent it happening again and most importantly, apologise to the customer.
In my honest opinion that’s what should have happened here. As he doesn’t appear to have done that from the radio silence, it is why he has to carry the can for all three of those wrong decisions.
Note to self; in future when criticising poor refereeing refer to ‘the referee and his team’ to cover all bases including the 4th official.0 -
I didn't watch the game as was working in the garden but had the stream on my phone and was just listening to the commentary. My young lad of 8yrs old showed interest for a while but started laughing and saying he had never seen such a fat referee in his life. I didn't check but assume from your comments he was right.Covered End said:I wasn't optimistic when he waddled on to the pitch.
I watched the "highlights" at half time and the end and the disallowed goal, Second penalty and sending off of Aneke were dreadful decisions. To get so much wrong in one game is very unusual and makes you wonder why/how he managed it.
We would have lost anyway but if our goal had stood and their second pen was not given it would not have been quite so demoralizing. The 3-0 risks causing far more damage than one sending off. The ref should be banned for the rest of the season at least for that performance2
