Great save from the penalty, hit hard and close to the post but should have been higher or lower.
A confident player places it. He leathered it.
According to Bowyer he normally sticks them in the top corner. I expect under normal circumstances he might have done, but this was a pressure kick for a player, starved of minutes, trying to make an impression. Stockley might have had less pressure if he’d taken the kick? Have no idea if Schwartz is any good or not, as he hasn’t had much of the ball so far.
Didn't pay for the stream & reading on the match thread it didn't sound a thriller.
Golfie Jnr is royally pissed off that we missed a last minute penalty & 2 more points. I'm more sanguine & trying to tell him that in the end it won't really matter as we will need more than another 2 more points to get into the top 6.
As pp have said, just want this season to end. Nothing to play for & our play is pedestrian & boring. Watched a bit of footage from 1991/92 on the "last minute goals" thread and saw entertaining play & us creating chance after chance.
I dont think in my 47 years of watching this club I've ever seen more boring & uninspiring football. Something needs to change.
I'd have had Jfc on the pen, he is full of confidence atm but not the end of the world... I've said to my old man so many times that our season is over, but the reality of it is that we would be 2 points off playoffs had we won today... The rest of the league is just as shit
Players miss penalties. The best players in the world miss penalties.
I think he could come good next season. Needs to be in a side that knows how to get the best from him. That isn’t happening at the moment as the team is too unsettled but I do get the feeling he could be more than decent in this league.
I'd have had Jfc on the pen, he is full of confidence atm but not the end of the world... I've said to my old man so many times that our season is over, but the reality of it is that we would be 2 points off playoffs had we won today... The rest of the league is just as shit
Has taken two for us (albeit one in a penalty shootout) before now
Players miss penalties. The best players in the world miss penalties.
I think he could come good next season. Needs to be in a side that knows how to get the best from him. That isn’t happening at the moment as the team is too unsettled but I do get the feeling he could be more than decent in this league.
I really haven’t seen enough with Schwartz to be confident that building a side around his strengths (whatever they are) would be a smart idea. Obviously I hope that he finds his feet, but at the moment he looks a bit lost.
I said before the game I would be happy with a draw. It's a decent point and importantly a clean sheet. I still think we will make the playoffs there are still alot of twists and turns still to come in this mad season. We still have 39 points to play for !
Didn't pay for the stream & reading on the March thread it didn't sound a thriller.
Golfie Jnr is royally pissed off that we missed a last minute penalty & 2 more points. I'm more sanguine & trying to tell him that in the end it won't really matter as we will need more than another 2 more points to get into the top 6.
As pp have said, just want this season to end. Nothing to play for & our play is pedestrian & boring. Watched a bit of footage from 1991/92 on the "last minute goals" thread and saw entertaining play & us creating chance after chance.
I dont think in my 47 years of watching this club I've ever seen more boring & uninspiring football.
I said back in October/November that I'd fallen out of love with 'Bowyer Ball' big time - and I still feel that way.
Games like Wigan last week were a typical example of what I mentioned earlier in the season in that we never really look good when we win. There's never many games I feel like we were full value for the 3 points and were dominant from start to finish. We have the odd half here and there, but otherwise its all just pretty workman like.
But I thought today's performance was actually better than Wigan, and being away from home against a side in decent form I felt like we pretty much nullified Oxford whilst looking dangerous on the break (which is often the way you have to play as an away side).
I just hope we can take this small uptick in form and confidence into our home games and actually put on some good performances to watch. I've given up on play offs but would be nice to see some convincing wins before the season is out.
Imagine if Shinnie or JFC takes it and misses - “why didn’t a striker take it?” “Schwartz is meant to be a poacher, why didn’t he step up?”.
It wasn’t the worst penalty but a good height for the keeper. All players can miss penalties, some great players have missed more than one.
Schwartz hasn’t shown enough for us so far, but he shouldn’t be written off. New league, new country, global pandemic, playing in a team that was put together in a few weeks and has been constantly rotated.
Schwartz should never have taken that penalty , he is devoid of confidence. We were slightly better of two average sides . Please start Aneke and Stockley on Tuesday .
Bowyer has said that he would have him take the next penalty in that situation, Washington our designated taker was off the pitch at the time, and Ronnie has a good record with pens, up till today it was 14/16. It was a miss, but not a bad penalty, these things happen, and there have been plenty of penalty takers better than Ronnie who have missed, that's part of the game luck, bad for us, but good for their keeper
I predicted a dull match ending 1-1, so wasn't far off. Both teams defended pretty well, but you can see why both teams are also struggling to score goals at the moment, as there was a desperate lack of attacking quality out there
We looked very ordinary out there, until the penalty it really wasn't obvious how we were going to score as with Millar kept quiet and no Shinnie, DJ or Morgan on the pitch we weren't getting in crosses, there was no penetration from midfield, and nobody able to create something out of nothing
Ronnie's penalty wasn't the best, but wasn't the worst either. It was a good height for the keeper, but he still had to guess correctly and got a very strong hand on it
Lee Bowyer spoke well after the game. Just wants to see a bit more quality in the final third.
All in all, it was a good point and the Pearce/Famewo partnership looks good.
I want to see a LOT more quality in the final third. Our strikers are equally as disappointing as our defence and midfield.. This season has been a shocker. It feels at least as bad as last. Schwartz may be a lot better than he's showing, but I'm fed up of players underperforming so often that we are dropping down the table and behind so many teams that normally I wouldn't want to buy a paper off, let alone a player. We aren't massive, never have been, never will be (if you're listening Thomas) but FFS we can't accept being a pretty average team in the third tier.
I get the impression from Curbs,IMnto,Brown,Lee.... And anyone else who commentates publicly on our plight that if we get a decent couple of results things will change and we'll go on some sort of a run and a bright, expansive exciting side will emerge from the flames. What are they watching? There's not a set of jump leads big enough that could get this group to spring into action. I think some of the recruitment has been pretty poor,especially around the young loanees. I think Gallen has been blinded by the lights of the stature of club they've come from without really doing his homework as to whether they would fit in our side or benefit us.
I'd have had Jfc on the pen, he is full of confidence atm but not the end of the world... I've said to my old man so many times that our season is over, but the reality of it is that we would be 2 points off playoffs had we won today... The rest of the league is just as shit
Weren’t we outside the play off spots before we went on a run to get to Wembley last time ?
Don’t care too much about the Penalty miss. We aren’t going up so whatever.
What does piss me off is Amos time wasting against Oxford when we should be pushing for a win.
The mentality is wrong. The players are substandard.
I want this season to end more than any other. It’s just boring.
Agree entirely. Football is supposed to be a heroic, thrilling, exhilarating sport. Millar aside (and he had a bad game) we don't have a flicker of inspiration or invention in this team. Boring is the precise word.
I'm far from Bowyer's greatest fan but credit where credit is due, that was a much better interview and good to see him supportive of Schwartz (at least in public)
Would love to see him help his confidence by starting him Tuesday
Not a bad quality game as in it wasn't hoofball but it was the modern day equivalent
Had to watch it standing up as 100% id have fallen asleep, thought we shaded it on points but a draw is definitely a fair result. Both sets of players looked incredibly tired after about an hour again. Referee was usual division 3 toilet
Felt a bit sorry for Schwartz as it wasn't a bad penalty and a decent save but it should never have been given and we would all be fuming it that had gone against us
Didn't think it was as dreadful a game as some people are saying. Actually one of our more solid performances recently, cut out a lot of the defensive mistakes and much more pressure off the ball in midfield to reduce their opportunities. the frustration obviously was going forward. Millar is clearly a talented kid, but his decision-making and execution was awful today. Washington always works hard and does a lot of running, but he couldn't really get on the ball and never looked like scoring. Aneke in a wider position struggled to get in the game, though had a couple of good moments. Don't know what to say about the penalty really, decent save from the keeper, but... you really have to take those chances.
Think our promotion chances faded weeks ago tbh, so not too upset about the result. Back to back clean sheets is a positive, but would like to see us creating more up front...
Sums up the game for me.
Millar needs to learn a lot IMO. He has the pace but his decision making is not good yet, and his finishing is poor. Experience will help
A lot of fast players need to know when too just take care with the last touch. Maybe taking two or slowing down. Don't get me wrong, he is one of our better players.
I quite enjoyed the game and the tactics.
The foul for the Penalty was obscured by a player, but you have to say that the ref was in a great position to see what happened, and I assume he caught his leg after he turned. I thought Stockley would take as in form.
Good strike. Good save. We really could do with a bit more luck going our way.
The big test, can we keep a clean sheet at the Valley Tuesday. Would take a 0-0 now after they tonked Portsmouth today.
Poor game - solid enough but no real quality - agreed, we r not going up so all getting a bit ‘so what’ tbh - hopefully we can re build in the summer and have a crack at it next year and we will b back in the stadium so plenty to look forward to - midfield needs a complete overhaul - get the wallet out TS please - no embargo, no Cap so hopefully we can bring in some quality
Think overall the result was a fair one neither keeper was really tested , but again our performance was good plus another clean sheet ... yes we had a great chance to win it but it was a pen that was very well saved more then missed .. Overall small steps forward now 3 home games where 3 wins would really make a statement
I was pleased with that. We're struggling in L1 so I've revised my expectations. We looked like a team, which we hadn't for 3 months. We had looked like a bunch of strangers. We kept it tight and kept another clean sheet, which is absolutely great considering. I would have taken a point at KO.
NB Bowyer is now doing most things fans have been asking for. A settled team with no changes. A formation that keeps us tight and hard to beat. Players playing in the right positions. No wholesale changes at HT. Instead of putting on defenders in the 2nd half he put on more offensive players. No defending deeper and deeper late on. Calmer post match conference.
Oh and the match was a bit boring, but in the circumstances I'm really pleased that everyone gave their all, we looked organised and kept another clean sheet. A draw was a fair result and I thought the goalie would save the pen, because we're Charlton and that's what we do.
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Have no idea if Schwartz is any good or not, as he hasn’t had much of the ball so far.
Golfie Jnr is royally pissed off that we missed a last minute penalty & 2 more points. I'm more sanguine & trying to tell him that in the end it won't really matter as we will need more than another 2 more points to get into the top 6.
As pp have said, just want this season to end. Nothing to play for & our play is pedestrian & boring. Watched a bit of footage from 1991/92 on the "last minute goals" thread and saw entertaining play & us creating chance after chance.
I dont think in my 47 years of watching this club I've ever seen more boring & uninspiring football. Something needs to change.
Shinnie: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/andrew-shinnie/elfmetertore/spieler/51733/plus/0?saison_id=ges&wettbewerb_id=
I think he could come good next season. Needs to be in a side that knows how to get the best from him. That isn’t happening at the moment as the team is too unsettled but I do get the feeling he could be more than decent in this league.
https://www.transfermarkt.gr/jake-forster-caskey/elfmetertore/spieler/148151
Games like Wigan last week were a typical example of what I mentioned earlier in the season in that we never really look good when we win. There's never many games I feel like we were full value for the 3 points and were dominant from start to finish. We have the odd half here and there, but otherwise its all just pretty workman like.
But I thought today's performance was actually better than Wigan, and being away from home against a side in decent form I felt like we pretty much nullified Oxford whilst looking dangerous on the break (which is often the way you have to play as an away side).
I just hope we can take this small uptick in form and confidence into our home games and actually put on some good performances to watch. I've given up on play offs but would be nice to see some convincing wins before the season is out.
If we can find some form at home we may just sneak into 6th but only because everyone around us is equally as poor.
It wasn’t the worst penalty but a good height for the keeper. All players can miss penalties, some great players have missed more than one.
Schwartz hasn’t shown enough for us so far, but he shouldn’t be written off. New league, new country, global pandemic, playing in a team that was put together in a few weeks and has been constantly rotated.
It was a miss, but not a bad penalty, these things happen, and there have been plenty of penalty takers better than Ronnie who have missed, that's part of the game luck, bad for us, but good for their keeper
We looked very ordinary out there, until the penalty it really wasn't obvious how we were going to score as with Millar kept quiet and no Shinnie, DJ or Morgan on the pitch we weren't getting in crosses, there was no penetration from midfield, and nobody able to create something out of nothing
Ronnie's penalty wasn't the best, but wasn't the worst either. It was a good height for the keeper, but he still had to guess correctly and got a very strong hand on it
What are they watching?
There's not a set of jump leads big enough that could get this group to spring into action.
I think some of the recruitment has been pretty poor,especially around the young loanees. I think Gallen has been blinded by the lights of the stature of club they've come from without really doing his homework as to whether they would fit in our side or benefit us.
Had to watch it standing up as 100% id have fallen asleep, thought we shaded it on points but a draw is definitely a fair result. Both sets of players looked incredibly tired after about an hour again. Referee was usual division 3 toilet
Felt a bit sorry for Schwartz as it wasn't a bad penalty and a decent save but it should never have been given and we would all be fuming it that had gone against us
Don't get me wrong, he is one of our better players.
I quite enjoyed the game and the tactics.
The foul for the Penalty was obscured by a player, but you have to say that the ref was in a great position to see what happened, and I assume he caught his leg after he turned. I thought Stockley would take as in form.
The big test, can we keep a clean sheet at the Valley Tuesday. Would take a 0-0 now after
they tonked Portsmouth today.
Overall small steps forward now 3 home games where 3 wins would really make a statement
We're struggling in L1 so I've revised my expectations.
We looked like a team, which we hadn't for 3 months. We had looked like a bunch of strangers.
We kept it tight and kept another clean sheet, which is absolutely great considering.
I would have taken a point at KO.
NB Bowyer is now doing most things fans have been asking for.
A settled team with no changes.
A formation that keeps us tight and hard to beat.
Players playing in the right positions.
No wholesale changes at HT.
Instead of putting on defenders in the 2nd half he put on more offensive players.
No defending deeper and deeper late on.
Calmer post match conference.
Oh and the match was a bit boring, but in the circumstances I'm really pleased that everyone gave their all, we looked organised and kept another clean sheet.
A draw was a fair result and I thought the goalie would save the pen, because we're Charlton and that's what we do.