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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,084
    Chris Wilder is also reportedly open to an approach from Pompey, he's the one we should have got after firing Garner imo
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    BigRedEvil said:
    Chris Wilder is also reportedly open to an approach from Pompey, he's the one we should have got after firing Garner imo
    Would love Wilder but do you really think he would join our basket case of a club. Most decent managers and players will avoid joining us, that's why we end up with the dross.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,391
    eaststandmike said:
    BigRedEvil said:
    Chris Wilder is also reportedly open to an approach from Pompey, he's the one we should have got after firing Garner imo
    Would love Wilder but do you really think he would join our basket case of a club. Most decent managers and players will avoid joining us, that's why we end up with the dross.

    Wilder isn't a bit of a basket case himself, given how things have gone for him? 
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,994
    Why is a basket case called a basket case?
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,137
    Arsenetatters said:
    Why is a basket case called a basket case?
    WW1 invalids.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,994
    MrWalker said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    Why is a basket case called a basket case?
    WW1 invalids.
    But what’s the ‘basket’ bit?
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Arsenetatters said:
    MrWalker said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    Why is a basket case called a basket case?
    WW1 invalids.
    But what’s the ‘basket’ bit?
    Soldiers that lost limbs, especially legs had to be carried in baskets. I believe the saying came from the fact they could not perform/function properly. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    edited January 2023
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Leuth said:
    eaststandmike said:
    BigRedEvil said:
    Chris Wilder is also reportedly open to an approach from Pompey, he's the one we should have got after firing Garner imo
    Would love Wilder but do you really think he would join our basket case of a club. Most decent managers and players will avoid joining us, that's why we end up with the dross.

    Wilder isn't a bit of a basket case himself, given how things have gone for him? 
    Not yet, he can still get a Champ or top end League 1 gig 
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,448
    Wilder has literally had one indifferent spell.

    Every other club he has managed has been a roaring success.

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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,664
    edited January 2023
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,451
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/former-charlton-boss-keen-on-landing-leeds-job-and-would-aim-for-instant-premier-league-promotion/
  • LonelyNorthernAddick
    LonelyNorthernAddick Posts: 2,423
    Scoham said:
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/former-charlton-boss-keen-on-landing-leeds-job-and-would-aim-for-instant-premier-league-promotion/
    I was speaking to one of my mates about whether Bowyer would go for the role, but thought he'd be punching way above his level to get it, bar the playoff promotion he's not had a lot of success really. I know he's a bit of a Leeds legend but think I'd be really disappointed if I was a Leeds fan and they went with him
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,391
    He'll give those pampered Premiership toddlers what-for! Both barrels Lee! Make them cry! Promotion sorts itself out after that!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    I really do like that Lee has looked at his inability to keep teams in the Championship and assumed that it would just work in reverse for Leeds. Got to love that confidence
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,893
    DPFC said:
    The only reason he failed to keep us in the championship was he was completely shafted by Roland and mouthall
    And Lyle 🐍 Taylor 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,732
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,419
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Yep, plan B being the McDonalds approach.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,464
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Joking.. He was left with a bunch of youngster, that basically playing non-league.. He done unreal to keep us in touching distance after that January transfer window, and the players we lost, along with the injuries we had.

    We would have still gone close that league one season as well, but he clearly saw Thomas for what he was!

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,391
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Joking.. He was left with a bunch of youngster, that basically playing non-league.. He done unreal to keep us in touching distance after that January transfer window, and the players we lost, along with the injuries we had.

    We would have still gone close that league one season as well, but he clearly saw Thomas for what he was!
    That League One season after we went down was, under Bowyer, one of the most poorly-managed seasons, with some of the worst football, I can remember in all my time watching Charlton
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,464
    Leuth said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Joking.. He was left with a bunch of youngster, that basically playing non-league.. He done unreal to keep us in touching distance after that January transfer window, and the players we lost, along with the injuries we had.

    We would have still gone close that league one season as well, but he clearly saw Thomas for what he was!
    That League One season after we went down was, under Bowyer, one of the most poorly-managed seasons, with some of the worst football, I can remember in all my time watching Charlton
    He had to deal with the fall out of ESI, not knowing what to was happening with the club, lost all of his key players, had to deal with the heartbreak of going down, then had a looney in Thomas coming in..

    Hardly surprise is it.. tactically I thought Bowyer was good, happy to change the team, never had a set system to play to, played each game on its merit! 

    Think being a bit harsh 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,732
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Joking.. He was left with a bunch of youngster, that basically playing non-league.. He done unreal to keep us in touching distance after that January transfer window, and the players we lost, along with the injuries we had.

    We would have still gone close that league one season as well, but he clearly saw Thomas for what he was!
    Maybe not publicly digging out every youngster each week would've been advisable.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,282
    DPFC said:
    The only reason he failed to keep us in the championship was he was completely shafted by Roland and mouthall
    Completely agree and god awful luck with injuries!!
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,464
    Pelling1993 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Joking.. He was left with a bunch of youngster, that basically playing non-league.. He done unreal to keep us in touching distance after that January transfer window, and the players we lost, along with the injuries we had.

    We would have still gone close that league one season as well, but he clearly saw Thomas for what he was!
    Maybe not publicly digging out every youngster each week would've been advisable.
    You mean Morgan..?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,154
    Sounds like Leeds have someone lined up anyone. Also going through a takeover. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,893
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Bowyer is a terrible manager once things start to go wrong. 
    Joking.. He was left with a bunch of youngster, that basically playing non-league.. He done unreal to keep us in touching distance after that January transfer window, and the players we lost, along with the injuries we had.

    We would have still gone close that league one season as well, but he clearly saw Thomas for what he was!
    Or Thomas (he wouldn't have worked it out on his own) was told what bowyer was and his limitations
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,978
    Bowyer was good for a couple of years, but then the weight of all the off field issues seemed to knock the stuffing out of him 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,893
    killerandflash said:
    Bowyer was good for a couple of years, but then the weight of all the off field issues seemed to knock the stuffing out of him 
    Relegation seemed to zap all of his confidence. I loved him up to that point and rated him as a manger. He was a different person the next year back in league 1 and I'm not sure if he got his mojo back at Birmingham. A year out of the game might have done him good.

    if he does get back into management, I hope he does well. He gave us that day out at Wembley and a shot at the championship with all odds stacked against him.
  • LonelyNorthernAddick
    LonelyNorthernAddick Posts: 2,423
    Todds_right_hook said:
    killerandflash said:
    Bowyer was good for a couple of years, but then the weight of all the off field issues seemed to knock the stuffing out of him 
    Relegation seemed to zap all of his confidence. I loved him up to that point and rated him as a manger. He was a different person the next year back in league 1 and I'm not sure if he got his mojo back at Birmingham. A year out of the game might have done him good.

    if he does get back into management, I hope he does well. He gave us that day out at Wembley and a shot at the championship with all odds stacked against him.
    A pretty fair assessment I would say overall.

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