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Cowleys V Mr Adkins

Having watched this cliche ridden interview I have to say I'm glad TS went with Mr Adkins.

Interviews don't of course reflect what is going to happen on the pitch but still I'm happy. Surprised the cowleys contract is only until the end of the season. Maybe Pompey aren't sure either ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv0PX99cm68
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  • So glad we were not after them. 
    I know they have been successful, but they don’t seem to know how that happened.
  • Poor mans Ant And Dec. + 600 games in management If I heard right ? 
  • Poor mans Ant And Dec. + 600 games in management If I heard right ? 
    Yes think that's what they said 5 or 600 
  • This being a double act with your brother thing is a bit...weird.
  • Yes, this whole 'we come as a pair' is a bit odd. 
  • Yeah, would never have had Brian Clough having a partner. 
  • mendonca said:
    Yes, this whole 'we come as a pair' is a bit odd. 
    MrOneLung said:
    Yeah, would never have had Brian Clough having a partner. 
    It would be ok(ish) if one was the manager and the other was the assistant in the background, but doing the introductory interviews together and, as @mendonca says the “whole ‘we come as a pair’ thing” is strange behaviour.
  • Swerved the question about being long-ball merchants didn't they
  • Joint managers... Been there, done that 
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  • League One promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 3

    Championship promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 1

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  • Current form.......

    Cowleys 2, Adkins 0.



  • Current form.......

    Cowleys 2, Adkins 0.



    Oh Golfie,  I have a lot of respect for your ability to remind us not to get too above ourselves but really?
  • League One promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 3

    Championship promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 1

      

    I'm not sure those stats are particularly relevant seeing that Adkins is 14 years older, so it's not unreasonable for him to have more "medals". On that basis you'd never appoint a young manager as there'll always be an older one who's achieved promotion already.

    You could also counter with how long ago their last promotion was

    Cowleys - 2 years
    Adkins - 9 years
  • League One promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 3

    Championship promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 1

      

    I'm not sure those stats are particularly relevant seeing that Adkins is 14 years older, so it's not unreasonable for him to have more "medals". On that basis you'd never appoint a young manager as there'll always be an older one who's achieved promotion already.

    You could also counter with how long ago their last promotion was

    Cowleys - 2 years
    Adkins - 9 years
    League One promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 3

    Championship promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 1

      

    I'm not sure those stats are particularly relevant seeing that Adkins is 14 years older, so it's not unreasonable for him to have more "medals". On that basis you'd never appoint a young manager as there'll always be an older one who's achieved promotion already.

    You could also counter with how long ago their last promotion was

    Cowleys - 2 years
    Adkins - 9 years
    You could - but we're not at their level
  • League One promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 3

    Championship promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 1

      

    I'm not sure those stats are particularly relevant seeing that Adkins is 14 years older, so it's not unreasonable for him to have more "medals". On that basis you'd never appoint a young manager as there'll always be an older one who's achieved promotion already.

    You could also counter with how long ago their last promotion was

    Cowleys - 2 years
    Adkins - 9 years
    League One promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 3

    Championship promotions:
    Cowleys 0
    Adkins 1

      

    I'm not sure those stats are particularly relevant seeing that Adkins is 14 years older, so it's not unreasonable for him to have more "medals". On that basis you'd never appoint a young manager as there'll always be an older one who's achieved promotion already.

    You could also counter with how long ago their last promotion was

    Cowleys - 2 years
    Adkins - 9 years
    You could - but we're not at their level
    The reason the Cowleys have never been promoted from league 1 is because they have never been in it.

    The won league 2 with Lincoln, then left in September.

    You could flip it to number of relegations

    Cowleys - 0
    Adkins - 1

    Or number of full season in league 1 without getting promoted.

    Cowleys - 0
    Adkins - 1

    Or games won in England 

    Cowleys - 340 
    Adkins - 227

    Or Premier league games lost, or number of brothers, or shoe size.  There are no stats that prove either is significantly better than the other. 

    The 4 biggest clubs in league 1 all changed their managers, all appointed there their own choice.  I don't think there were any serious links to the other jobs for any of them. 

    It's highly likely that at least 2, maybe even all 4, won't get promoted this season.   The chances of all 4 getting promoted in the next 14 months is probably quite remote, which means some of them will fail. 

    I think in the medium to long term Adkins is the most likely to get long term success, with us.   I don't know whether it's just his enthusiasm rubbing off but I am really looking forward to the next 2 years, even if it's in league 1.


  • I’m not excited about Adkins but he deserves a fair crack of the whip.  
  • edited March 2021
    Current form.......

    Cowleys 2, Adkins 0.
    I wonder how many blood pressures you raise on a daily basis. I reckon about 150+
  • Adkins has done it with different clubs .. Cowley failed when they went to a bigger club 
  • mascot88 said:
    Joint managers... Been there, done that 

    For what club/s?
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  • Adkins has done it with different clubs .. Cowley failed when they went to a bigger club 
    They didn’t really fail .  Adkins’ last good season was 8 years ago. 
  • Adkins has done it with different clubs .. Cowley failed when they went to a bigger club 
    Where did cowley fail?
  • Tbh, I don't care about the Cowley's 
  • Charlton made a terrible mistake in not appointing the Cowleys. But so did Ipswich, which seemed geographically the perfect job for the brothers, and my club Sunderland.
    However all three clubs who spurned Danny and Nicky have made interesting appointments. Johnson looks set to take us up. I'd expect Cook to give Ipswich a good chance of promotion next season. I like Adkins and hope he can have you challenging in 21-22.
    It's just none of the three are as outstanding as the Cowleys. The constant reference to hoof-ball and ugly football by fans on various message-boards of each club was just a nonsense. It overlooked the most important criterion; they are a really good and successful management team.
  • Think of the confusion come the weekly press conference

    Cawley providing an insight in what Cowley has to say - No thanks
  • wmcf123 said:
    Adkins has done it with different clubs .. Cowley failed when they went to a bigger club 
    They didn’t really fail .  Adkins’ last good season was 8 years ago. 
    This rhetoric seems to be repeated but is baseless. A good season is contextual, I would argue keeping hull up and stabilising them in mid table champ (after he left they immediately went down) are two good seasons that happened very recently.
    Firstly I only want what’s the best for Charlton, therefore I want Adkins to succeed. Also I’m not too worried about the Cowleys vs Adkins debate, time will tell on that one, but players make teams. Jarrod Bowen scored 14 to keep them up in 17 the next season he scored 22 with Adkins, he is then on his way to a big haul in 19/20 without Adkins (16 in 29 games) when they sold him to west ham in January and were relegated. I think it’s arguable to say that sale was what done for them.
  • wmcf123 said:
    Adkins has done it with different clubs .. Cowley failed when they went to a bigger club 
    They didn’t really fail .  Adkins’ last good season was 8 years ago. 
    This rhetoric seems to be repeated but is baseless. A good season is contextual, I would argue keeping hull up and stabilising them in mid table champ (after he left they immediately went down) are two good seasons that happened very recently.
    It’s not baseless .  I’m not excited about what he did at Hull- they had a good side with good players that were underachieving; indeed, a front three of Bowen, Grosicki and Campbell scored over 40 goals between them. 

    I badly want Adkins to succeed - I’m just not excited about the appointment.  
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