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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,629
    So what’s needed now ?

    1 Goalkeeper ( 2 if AMB goes out on loan) 
    2 x Centre backs
    1 x Left Back
    2 wingers
    2 x Central midfielders ( perhaps interchangeable with wingers ?) 
    1 Striker

    Thats a very tall order to get top two quality. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    Looks like Wigan are taking their rebuild seriously..... 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    Sage said:
    Now we have lots of work to do, we were hoping to keep them but you now have to add a keeper and a striker on the list of what is required.

    I am calm, but I do think it’s going to be a harder season than many would’ve anticipated going into this summer and this is not a reaction from the news today.

    Sandgaard would do well to appoint a CEO who runs things on the ground whilst he’s in the US. I get it’s his way and all those reasons, but we need that figurehead in the UK. 
    I did suggest someone to Thomas via LinkedIn and that individual did try to make contact but didn’t hear back.  Looks like he’s just about to land Amos for his new club.

    I do understand why Thomas wanted to do this himself at the start. Coming in and getting to understand the Club and everything that was needed.  The structure has been improving with every appointment since and I think this will be the last piece soon.  
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,396
    This makes you realise how poor this division was last season. This year clubs will throw money around.

    From what we’ve seen so far I think top 6 will be really competitive.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    So what’s needed now ?

    1 Goalkeeper ( 2 if AMB goes out on loan) 
    2 x Centre backs
    1 x Left Back
    2 wingers
    2 x Central midfielders ( perhaps interchangeable with wingers ?) 
    1 Striker

    Thats a very tall order to get top two quality. 
     1 GK
     1 RB
     2 CB
     1 LB
     1 RW
     1 LW
     2 CM 
     2 STR

  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    If there gone,there gone. Onwards and upwards. 

    Chuks as an asset but is also a luxury at this level.  Any other club will use and abuse his body and soon be wondering why. 

    Amos, be here twice maybe he didn't want to play 2nd string again. 

    Still plenty of time to go....
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,629
    Laddick01 said:
    This makes you realise how poor this division was last season. This year clubs will throw money around.

    From what we’ve seen so far I think top 6 will be really competitive.
    I’m sure we will be competitive but we are nowhere near it right now.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    As I said last season, I don’t feel any emotional connection to any of these players and they failed to make the playoffs. Not bothered if any leave and we got a totally new squad.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    Wonder if we may try and bring either Bursik (Stoke Goalkeeper who played on loan for Peterborough against us) or Alex Palmer (West Brom Goalkeeper who was on loan against us for Lincoln). 

    Both good young prospects who may struggle for Championship game time next seaso
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wonder if we may try and bring either Bursik (Stoke Goalkeeper who played on loan for Peterborough against us) or Alex Palmer (West Brom Goalkeeper who was on loan against us for Lincoln). 

    Both good young prospects who may struggle for Championship game time next seaso
    It makes sense to bring in a loan keeper, considering AMB is being prepped for the role. 

    It doesn’t make sense to give a new keeper a multi year contract.

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  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,860

    Amos is a decent League 1 keeper, plenty better in my opinion.

    Aneke was not Championship standard at all. I would bet he doesn’t get more than 5 goals for them given that he can’t play a whole game and Championship centre backs are a lot better than those in league 1.

    I really can’t believe Sandgaard would do all he has already and then falter when he has the chance to make a real difference and put more blocks in place into realising the dream he has made so public.

    Now we are clearer in terms of what we need to do. Two players have decided to go elsewhere, players at other clubs will do likewise. I think we will start to see some movement now.

  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Dazzler21 said:
    Team for friendly one...

    M.Brewer
    Barker - Inniss - Gunter
    Jaiyesimi - Gilbey - Watson - Morgan - Clayden
    Stockley - Washington

    I would go with Gunter right back, purrington left back, Pearce in the middle and Morgan on the left instead of barker and Clayden starting
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    Dazzler21 said:
    Team for friendly one...

    M.Brewer
    Barker - Inniss - Gunter
    Jaiyesimi - Gilbey - Watson - Morgan - Clayden
    Stockley - Washington

    Has Clayden signed a contract?  I thought he was in the "offered a contract to" list of kids.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    edited June 2021
    ElliotCAFC said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wonder if we may try and bring either Bursik (Stoke Goalkeeper who played on loan for Peterborough against us) or Alex Palmer (West Brom Goalkeeper who was on loan against us for Lincoln). 

    Both good young prospects who may struggle for Championship game time next seaso
    It makes sense to bring in a loan keeper, considering AMB is being prepped for the role. 

    It doesn’t make sense to give a new keeper a multi year contract.
    Would be delighted with Bursik as he looked excellent for Peterborough and then Lincoln in the first Play-Off game - They've got Adam Davies @ Stoke as their No.1 still so may want to loan him for stability as well, seeing he had four loans last season

    Shame we cant bring in Rob Elliot who might be happy being an experienced No.2 for a few years.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    ElliotCAFC said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wonder if we may try and bring either Bursik (Stoke Goalkeeper who played on loan for Peterborough against us) or Alex Palmer (West Brom Goalkeeper who was on loan against us for Lincoln). 

    Both good young prospects who may struggle for Championship game time next seaso
    It makes sense to bring in a loan keeper, considering AMB is being prepped for the role. 

    It doesn’t make sense to give a new keeper a multi year contract.
    It also does not make sense to play someone else's kid if we think ours is good enough.

    I want/expect either a multi year contract for an experienced number 1 or someone that is obviously back up like Sullivan. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    ValleyGary said:
    As I said last season, I don’t feel any emotional connection to any of these players and they failed to make the playoffs. Not bothered if any leave and we got a totally new squad.
    Pretty much as I see it.
    They weren't good enough last season so why would they be good enough this season 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    I'm not that bothered about either leaving tbh. Trust the management and decide when they are finished the recruitment process. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    AMB being talked up a lot. Has one year left on his contract.  If that good why have we not extended it?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ValleyGary said:
    As I said last season, I don’t feel any emotional connection to any of these players and they failed to make the playoffs. Not bothered if any leave and we got a totally new squad.
    Exactly my thoughts. Not bothered who goes (with the exception of Inniss)

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    edited June 2021
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  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Athletico Charlton said:
    AMB being talked up a lot. Has one year left on his contract.  If that good why have we not extended it?
    He signed a 3 year deal in October.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    SELR_addicks said:
    Maybe we need to go back and have a look at this 'strict' budget. If we're losing players to Wigan then I'm sure it's not just our squad players choosing other league One clubs over us. 
    Amos wants to move up north and if Wigan the only team that offered him that chance he don’t have much choice … sure he would have liked Man City but it is what it is if he desperately wants to go home .. nothing about losing a player to Wigan he has no choice 

  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    RonnieMoore said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Maybe we need to go back and have a look at this 'strict' budget. If we're losing players to Wigan then I'm sure it's not just our squad players choosing other league One clubs over us. 
    Amos wants to move up north and if Wigan the only team that offered him that chance he don’t have much choice … sure he would have liked Man City but it is what it is if he desperately wants to go home .. nothing about losing a player to Wigan he has no choice 

    Thanks Ronnie 😉
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,599
    blackpool72 said:
    ValleyGary said:
    As I said last season, I don’t feel any emotional connection to any of these players and they failed to make the playoffs. Not bothered if any leave and we got a totally new squad.
    Pretty much as I see it.
    They weren't good enough last season so why would they be good enough this season 
    Agree, they were not good enough to reach the playoffs, at least until Nige arrived that was, but we had a good response to Bowyer going and Nige arriving, now we are losing good team players, and I will certainly be bothered if we don't get ourselves sorted pronto, it just seems one way traffic at the moment, in the wrong direction.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    J BLOCK said:
    Two good players that have rejected our contract offer. Can’t say I’m happy 
    One wants to be with his family so no matter we offered him 50,000 a week don’t change anything the other a player who found a club that going to give him one last chance at championship level as a sub ….. 
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,702
    blackpool72 said:
    ValleyGary said:
    As I said last season, I don’t feel any emotional connection to any of these players and they failed to make the playoffs. Not bothered if any leave and we got a totally new squad.
    Pretty much as I see it.
    They weren't good enough last season so why would they be good enough this season 
    Maybe but I think Chuks and Amos are good enough for promotion from this league.

    Debatable whether Pearce and Watson are though. It's disappointing but maybe understandable why the good players are leaving and the old donkeys are staying
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    I've said it before, but I think Amos has been an excellent goalkeeper for us in both his spells and will not be quite as easy to replace as some think - he's a got an old fashioned style that not so many keepers have these days and, personally, i think keeper's are poorer for it these days.

    Chuks is an enigma with is injury troubles, but players with his combination of skill and physicality are not 10 a penny either.

    The club will go-on and I'm sure we can still have a successful season without these two, but it will take very good players to replace them and improve on them.

  • Charlton43
    Charlton43 Posts: 109
    Just means we need to rebuild the core of the side in 40 days. Don’t panic mr manwarring 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
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