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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,618
    CH4RLTON said:
    Yep not sold on Paul Mullin, one good season. Novak/Ajose/Benson come to mind
    Yep a lot of his goals last season were pens and tap ins, not sure what he brings that Ronnie Schwartz does to be honest

    Wasn’t there a rumour Schwartz was going back to Belgium? If so Mullin makes a bit more sense plus I doubt he’d be demanding too much. A gamble but could work out.
  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 1,962
    Got to love them, good job we have a good manager and background  staff who research our signings.
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,828
    Dont know why but getting a touch of the Paul Bensons about Paul Mullin..... 
    Surely not, Benson was our number 1 striker for a while ( think we paid around £200k for him? )

    Mullin will probably be third in pecking order and a free transfer.

    Must admit I'm impressed by his goals video, and I should know better.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,279
    You lot want 3 strangled cats on this thread - voila

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-DZQ80vEVI
    Oops I must have misread your post, I though you mentioned entertainment
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,618
    Did that centre half sign in the end?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,421
    Did that centre half sign in the end?
    The source Tuckered up the rumourer
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cblock said:
    Got to love them, good job we have a good manager and background  staff who research our signings.
    This.  I wouldn't sign him based on this season's record.  I know some would.  Some are saying he is the "best of league 1 and 2" exactly the sort of player we should be signing etc.

    If, and it's a big if, we do sign him I honestly doubt it's because Nigle was flicking through the Sun Goals pull out and saw the league 2 top goal scorers table.   Let's be honest that's why some people want us to sign him.  That and his amazing season at Morecambe ;-)

    He will have been watched, as well as you can in the current circumstances, due diligence done etc.  More importantly Adkins will want him.  I think that's more than good enough for me and it should be for everyone else. 
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377

    One of those dodgy journo accounts has posted this about Ibe. Probably reads CL for his source 😂
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,920
    Ibe won't be commanding wages anything like what he's been on before, dumped out of a poor Derby team, there won't be clubs wanting him unless he agrees to a drastic wage cut
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,461
    RedRobin said:

    One of those dodgy journo accounts has posted this about Ibe. Probably reads CL for his source 😂

    Would be more of a punt than a statement of intent. Hasn't really done particularly well anywhere he's been and sounds like he needs some time out after leaving derby.

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,415
    These kind of signings very rarely work at Charlton. Avoid.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited July 2021
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  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    edited July 2021
    mendonca said:
    These kind of signings very rarely work at Charlton. Avoid.
    I generally agree but this kid is a few years removed from a £15m move, plus, if it is true that it’s down to mental demons I think we must have the best manager in the world to deal with him. If Thomas is willing to pay the wages why not.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,817
    It's a risk for sure but it can't work out any worse than Marcus Maddison did...

    Imagine if someone told you two years ago we were signing this player. I think everyone would've snapped your hand off for him.



  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Crack pot theory alert.  Mullin will sign for Plymouth freeing up their current star striker for a move to........ 
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    RedRobin said:
    One of those dodgy journo accounts has posted this about Ibe. Probably reads CL for his source 😂
    This screams Marcus Maddison
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    It's a risk for sure but it can't work out any worse than Marcus Maddison did...

    Imagine if someone told you two years ago we were signing this player. I think everyone would've snapped your hand off for him.



    Yeah but look at Marcus Maddison's stats he must be much better! He scores about as many goals as Johnny Williams.  Bring back Ricky Holmes!!!!! /sarcasm and fake outrage.

    Ibe is still an outstanding prospect, who's best years could be still ahead of him.  Is he a footballer who is suffering from depression or is being a footballer contributing to or causing his depression?

    I have no idea and I wouldn't like to guess.  If it's the later I hope he takes the time and help he needs to help himself. If it's the former maybe "getting back on the horse" is what he needs, maybe it can provide him with some escape and peace with a ball at his feet.

    Good luck to the lad, what ever he does next. 
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,152
    Was about to post this myself. He's not a man of many words, but some of his accounts were pretty moving. The message from a random 12 yr old Argentinian fan, helping him to step back from the brink after he posted about his depression. The effect that being robbed at gunpoint as a nineteen year old boy had on him. The significance his daughter has to his life and wellbeing. I hope that whatever becomes of his footballing career he can stay well, with the support of his family and friends.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,618
    I just watched that too and can only agree with what’s been said above. Seems like the type who needs an arm around the shoulder, just like Maddison needed but didn’t get. I hope he can continue on his road to recovery with the help of his family and friends. He obviously dotes on his daughter and she seems to be the one that has kept him going through tough times. I wonder how much being away from friends and family has affected his mental state and maybe he needs to be at a club close to home so that his friends and family are close when he needs them. Not saying that should be us but there is a player in there so why not? Whatever happens I wish him all the best.

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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    edited July 2021
    there are obvious comparisons to Marcus Maddison or even Ravel Morrison when talking about Ibe.  He is a very talented player but clearly has flaws in his game and in his mental health. Sounds like he would be a bit of a project for Nigel and I can’t think of many better to do the “arm around  the shoulder “
    having said that he may well come with baggage and be best left to his own devices.  Intriguing one it must be said

    i’m fairly sure he has made multi millions over his career so money shouldn’t really be his driver.  Much like Marcus Maddison he may just want to get back to playing football and enjoying life again without the pressure of his ridiculous price tags and wages.  £16m Bournemouth paid for him a few years ago….that’s a huge amount of pressure 
  • RedRobin said:

    One of those dodgy journo accounts has posted this about Ibe. Probably reads CL for his source 😂
    In the words of McGregor, who the fuck is that guy?

    55 followers and looks like he works at an American legal firm.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,780
    One things for sure if we do sign Jordan Ibe (I don't think we will for what it's worth), I imagine a large section of the fan base won't be willing to give him a chance or defend him unlike they seemingly do with Schwartz. 
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,289
    Ibe wouldn't have agreed to cancel his Derby contract if he didn't have a new club lined up already, or at least cast iron offers on the table.

    However, Henry Irving broke this rumour and since he's quite a recognisable face for the club, I don't think he would have done it if it was a genuine tip-off.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,260
    Ibe wouldn't have agreed to cancel his Derby contract if he didn't have a new club lined up already, or at least cast iron offers on the table.

    However, Henry Irving broke this rumour and since he's quite a recognisable face for the club, I don't think he would have done it if it was a genuine tip-off.
    Henry Irving speculated about him, nothing more. He's local and free. That was it.

    Other people commented on it and now it's a rumour.that fake sites post to try and look in the know 

    It's a classic example of how rumours feed on themselves to grow and gain credibility. A few people repeat it and suddenly he's been spotted at the training ground.

    I wish I could claim I did it as an experiment but I didn't.



  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,751
    edited July 2021
    Whilst I too doubt there is any substance to it, I think pushing the boat out with one or two players can have a massive positive effect, especially at our level, as long as it doesn't create disunity within the squad. To achieve that it has to be a player or players that everybody knows are above the level.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    If NS thinks he can work with him then great. Interesting range of responses:

    A: None of my business he should be treated the same as everyone else. 

    B He's probably going to be troublesome don't want know

    C We can take account of the issues and work with him.


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    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,421
    edited July 2021
    If NS thinks he can work with him then great.
    NS?

    I think Tracey would probably want to be involved in keeping him in good spirits.

    Adkins would in my opinion benefit him, but there's the outside risk that it could frustrate/irritate him.
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