I think Ipswich do have a good chance of being promoted. They have spent on seemingly good quality league one players and have a very decent manager. Those two things coming together often bring success but not guaranteed by any stretch. They have also decided on a policy of spending big in league one terms. They want success now and are banking on spending their way out of the division. No idea the wealth or ambitions of their new owners but I think it’s also fair to say Ipswich haven’t been through what Charlton have been through for the last ten years. The clubs both have new owners and are starting from very different bases. They are very likely to be top six but over and above that I wouldn’t want to bet big.
Any updates maybe please @Covered_End_Lad...you sounded pretty confident yesterday, and wondered if you may have heard anything further? A rumour, A rumour, My Kingdom for a rumour..
Slightly off topic but hey, who would notice on this thread, showing on the OS that JFC will be on the mic with Terry tonight at Palarse, so there you go, be interesting to have another take on the commentary, now as you were everyone...
Hello shootershillguru ,l agree that was a good post if fans have the same patience as yourself.If ts and na came out and said that at the end of last season,we’re looking to bring in a few youngsters and a few players on frees the expectation of a lot of fans wouldn’t be so high. But no, you had NA saying that will us next year (hull celebrating winning title) and TS saying we’re gonna blow league 1 out of the water.with the squad at the moment the only thing that’s gonna blow is our chances of promotion.spend a few million get them class players,go flat out for promotion (like Ipswich) get in the championship,get 27,000 back in the stadium,Ts will soon get his money back.
I may be in the minority, but I’m glad Sandgaard hasn’t spent “a few million” on players this summer. Yes, it would have been exciting to have some big names come in, but it’s not financially viable to be spending that kind of cash in this league. I feel more positive that Sandgaard is looking at the long game and ensuring we still exist and in a position to improve/grow in the years to come.
I’ll be very interested to hear from those who think we should be spending like Ipswich now, if in May Ipswich fail to be promoted.
I really don't care about Ipswich, I want us to get promoted. I get the fact that TS has come in & possibly saved the club from extinction & we should all be grateful for that. I also get that it's his money that some of us are trying to spend but really we need to get out of this division asap & I don't see it happening this season taking the approach that we have. We should be ( & maybe were) challenging for the best players in this division not hunting around for bargains or relying on youngsters who aren't ready for league 1 football. Again I appreciate that it's his money but getting to the championship is imperative & we can take stock when we get there & build steadily. All we seem to be doing at the moment is treading water & we'll probably be having the same conversation next close season.
We’re an established league one club and we’re having established league one problems. Heart has been ripped out of Charlton systematically for best part of a decade. Even the most enthusiastic and richest of owners couldn’t fix that overnight. Miraculously and thankfully our wonderful academy has remained able to produce talent. Mr. Sandgaard has ambitions but a lot of groundwork needs doing before we are again a well run club. I think he’s getting there but it’s not cheap and he’s not fantastically wealthy by football standards. We all want instant success and gratification but realistically it’s going to take a few years. No doubt we’ll be competitive but no more than probably eight or nine other clubs. Playoffs have to be our target and anything else an unbelievable bonus. I think we’ll be back in the Championship but we might not get there quite as quickly as we all hope and want. At this point CAFC are building for the future. We need to recognise that. Our time will come again I have no doubt.
Totally agree. Sandgaard isn't throwing money about and I've seen a few idiots on twitter comparing him to RD . The obvious difference is that the former is showing he cares and putting a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the club out off the pitch.
I hope most fans see what you see and appreciate this will take time. Always going to be a few who don't, and one criticism is that Sandgaard and to a lesser extent Adkins have increased expectation with their comments. In hindsight, this could definitely have been handled better, I'm sure the boss will learn from it.
Now the season ticket is nearly at its limit of attraction to buyers what is to be learned by the boss or owner ? Those who took the bait of smashing the league with images of celebrations are already ensnared and have paid up.
I would have bought one anyway.
Do you refer to anyone with whom you disagrees as an idiot ? It seems so because you called people who compare TS to RD as such.
From one point of view this is possible. From another they could have a point. It doesn’t mean that they are all pro RD though. Just that they disagree with you.
To be honest, if people compare TS to RD, they deserve to be called idiots.
if someone is called an idiot purely for having a differing opinion, then valid point, that’s wrong.
I take it that the poster is guilty of the first example and not the second.
Hello shootershillguru ,l agree that was a good post if fans have the same patience as yourself.If ts and na came out and said that at the end of last season,we’re looking to bring in a few youngsters and a few players on frees the expectation of a lot of fans wouldn’t be so high. But no, you had NA saying that will us next year (hull celebrating winning title) and TS saying we’re gonna blow league 1 out of the water.with the squad at the moment the only thing that’s gonna blow is our chances of promotion.spend a few million get them class players,go flat out for promotion (like Ipswich) get in the championship,get 27,000 back in the stadium,Ts will soon get his money back.
I may be in the minority, but I’m glad Sandgaard hasn’t spent “a few million” on players this summer. Yes, it would have been exciting to have some big names come in, but it’s not financially viable to be spending that kind of cash in this league. I feel more positive that Sandgaard is looking at the long game and ensuring we still exist and in a position to improve/grow in the years to come.
I’ll be very interested to hear from those who think we should be spending like Ipswich now, if in May Ipswich fail to be promoted.
I really don't care about Ipswich, I want us to get promoted. I get the fact that TS has come in & possibly saved the club from extinction & we should all be grateful for that. I also get that it's his money that some of us are trying to spend but really we need to get out of this division asap & I don't see it happening this season taking the approach that we have. We should be ( & maybe were) challenging for the best players in this division not hunting around for bargains or relying on youngsters who aren't ready for league 1 football. Again I appreciate that it's his money but getting to the championship is imperative & we can take stock when we get there & build steadily. All we seem to be doing at the moment is treading water & we'll probably be having the same conversation next close season.
We all want to get promoted, there’s different ways of doing that in the lower leagues. Throwing money at a problem doesn’t always help, proven by some of the clubs who have tired and remain in League 1. Building a strong squad which actually works together is key, which I presume is what Gallen and co are working on. Not just buying any player because they are deemed as one of the best in this league.
I don’t see it as we’re hunting for bargains, personally I think bringing in Stockley, MacGillivray, Dobson and Clare is really good business, plus Famewo on loan. Of course, we need some more signings, but there’s still time before transfer and loan windows close.
I don't get that logic. Even if you're still being paid for July, surely you could be training with your new club already, or sign for a club, salary starting from the 1st August
Stockley, Dobson, Clare, Famewo, Matthews, MacGillivray doesn’t look like bad business at all so far and with 4-5 to go (I suspect) think we will be fine. Perhaps 2 more perms and a few loans and we will be in the mix if we can improve upon our injury record of recent seasons. Teams have proven every season that a few marquee signings do not guarantee anything. Team morale, playing style, work ethic, fitness levels, management style etc etc all play their part in producing the right formula to get promoted and I continue to have faith that NA, JJ and JE will get the most out of whatever squad is assembled to have a really good crack at promotion. I cannot wait to get down the Valley for the first game. Long covid is still playing it’s course, so will be a bit gutted not to chant (as my throat is still pretty shredded), but can’t wait to hear the atmosphere and clap like crazy… COYR and BONS (Bring on next signing 😉)!
We’re an established league one club and we’re having established league one problems. Heart has been ripped out of Charlton systematically for best part of a decade. Even the most enthusiastic and richest of owners couldn’t fix that overnight. Miraculously and thankfully our wonderful academy has remained able to produce talent. Mr. Sandgaard has ambitions but a lot of groundwork needs doing before we are again a well run club. I think he’s getting there but it’s not cheap and he’s not fantastically wealthy by football standards. We all want instant success and gratification but realistically it’s going to take a few years. No doubt we’ll be competitive but no more than probably eight or nine other clubs. Playoffs have to be our target and anything else an unbelievable bonus. I think we’ll be back in the Championship but we might not get there quite as quickly as we all hope and want. At this point CAFC are building for the future. We need to recognise that. Our time will come again I have no doubt.
Totally agree. Sandgaard isn't throwing money about and I've seen a few idiots on twitter comparing him to RD . The obvious difference is that the former is showing he cares and putting a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the club out off the pitch.
I hope most fans see what you see and appreciate this will take time. Always going to be a few who don't, and one criticism is that Sandgaard and to a lesser extent Adkins have increased expectation with their comments. In hindsight, this could definitely have been handled better, I'm sure the boss will learn from it.
Now the season ticket is nearly at its limit of attraction to buyers what is to be learned by the boss or owner ? Those who took the bait of smashing the league with images of celebrations are already ensnared and have paid up.
I would have bought one anyway.
Do you refer to anyone with whom you disagrees as an idiot ? It seems so because you called people who compare TS to RD as such.
From one point of view this is possible. From another they could have a point. It doesn’t mean that they are all pro RD though. Just that they disagree with you.
To be honest, if people compare TS to RD, they deserve to be called idiots.
if someone is called an idiot purely for having a differing opinion, then valid point, that’s wrong.
I take it that the poster is guilty of the first example and not the second.
Why do you say that ? He said he had seen a few idiots on twitter for comparing TS with RD. That was all.
My point is people are not necessarily idiots for doing such just because he disagrees. We can’t just declare everyone who disagrees with us an idiot without fully knowing the view point.
I don't do face book or twitter or alike so can't check. I am not a fan of either.
Yeah, no. If people are genuinely comparing TS to Roland they ARE idiots and should be ignored. End of.
If you want to debate some of Sandgaard's decisions fine, there's probably legitimate criticism to be made (hyping things up and an apparent naivety about the sheer cost of transfer business for example.) But Duchatlet comparisons are not legitimate criticism.
We’re an established league one club and we’re having established league one problems. Heart has been ripped out of Charlton systematically for best part of a decade. Even the most enthusiastic and richest of owners couldn’t fix that overnight. Miraculously and thankfully our wonderful academy has remained able to produce talent. Mr. Sandgaard has ambitions but a lot of groundwork needs doing before we are again a well run club. I think he’s getting there but it’s not cheap and he’s not fantastically wealthy by football standards. We all want instant success and gratification but realistically it’s going to take a few years. No doubt we’ll be competitive but no more than probably eight or nine other clubs. Playoffs have to be our target and anything else an unbelievable bonus. I think we’ll be back in the Championship but we might not get there quite as quickly as we all hope and want. At this point CAFC are building for the future. We need to recognise that. Our time will come again I have no doubt.
Totally agree. Sandgaard isn't throwing money about and I've seen a few idiots on twitter comparing him to RD . The obvious difference is that the former is showing he cares and putting a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the club out off the pitch.
I hope most fans see what you see and appreciate this will take time. Always going to be a few who don't, and one criticism is that Sandgaard and to a lesser extent Adkins have increased expectation with their comments. In hindsight, this could definitely have been handled better, I'm sure the boss will learn from it.
Now the season ticket is nearly at its limit of attraction to buyers what is to be learned by the boss or owner ? Those who took the bait of smashing the league with images of celebrations are already ensnared and have paid up.
I would have bought one anyway.
Do you refer to anyone with whom you disagrees as an idiot ? It seems so because you called people who compare TS to RD as such.
From one point of view this is possible. From another they could have a point. It doesn’t mean that they are all pro RD though. Just that they disagree with you.
No, but TS and RD are like chalk and cheese. Sandgaard has bought the womens club, attended matches and shown a real enthusiasm for owning this football club. He's put people into place who know what they are doing. We might not have won the Champions League yet like some fans expect but at least the fella wants to be in charge.
And I never said they were pro RD. You must be on a constant wind up. Always digging people out and then cop the hump and accuse people of bullying when they respond.
We’re an established league one club and we’re having established league one problems. Heart has been ripped out of Charlton systematically for best part of a decade. Even the most enthusiastic and richest of owners couldn’t fix that overnight. Miraculously and thankfully our wonderful academy has remained able to produce talent. Mr. Sandgaard has ambitions but a lot of groundwork needs doing before we are again a well run club. I think he’s getting there but it’s not cheap and he’s not fantastically wealthy by football standards. We all want instant success and gratification but realistically it’s going to take a few years. No doubt we’ll be competitive but no more than probably eight or nine other clubs. Playoffs have to be our target and anything else an unbelievable bonus. I think we’ll be back in the Championship but we might not get there quite as quickly as we all hope and want. At this point CAFC are building for the future. We need to recognise that. Our time will come again I have no doubt.
Totally agree. Sandgaard isn't throwing money about and I've seen a few idiots on twitter comparing him to RD . The obvious difference is that the former is showing he cares and putting a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the club out off the pitch.
I hope most fans see what you see and appreciate this will take time. Always going to be a few who don't, and one criticism is that Sandgaard and to a lesser extent Adkins have increased expectation with their comments. In hindsight, this could definitely have been handled better, I'm sure the boss will learn from it.
Now the season ticket is nearly at its limit of attraction to buyers what is to be learned by the boss or owner ? Those who took the bait of smashing the league with images of celebrations are already ensnared and have paid up.
I would have bought one anyway.
Do you refer to anyone with whom you disagrees as an idiot ? It seems so because you called people who compare TS to RD as such.
From one point of view this is possible. From another they could have a point. It doesn’t mean that they are all pro RD though. Just that they disagree with you.
To be honest, if people compare TS to RD, they deserve to be called idiots.
if someone is called an idiot purely for having a differing opinion, then valid point, that’s wrong.
I take it that the poster is guilty of the first example and not the second.
Why do you say that ? He said he had seen a few idiots on twitter for comparing TS with RD. That was all.
My point is people are not necessarily idiots for doing such just because he disagrees. We can’t just declare everyone who disagrees with us an idiot without fully knowing the view point.
I don't do face book or twitter or alike so can't check. I am not a fan of either.
Because he didn’t call people idiots for having a differing opinion. He called people idiots for making an idiotic statement.
I’m pretty sure the majority of posters on here would call people comparing a guy who saved our club, spending lots of money on legal costs and seems to be slowly rebuilding out dilapidated club the right way with a guy who put his mates daughter in charge, sacked a Charlton legend, sent over players good enough for welling United and appointed an 18 year old from Belgium as head scout as idiots.
why is that comparison being made, because TS isn’t spending millions during a window where the market is slow for lots of reason. I think the term idiots has been wisely used in this case.
And meanwhile if true we sit around doing didly squat really. I don't buy thus 3 weeks left after the start of the season really. It is leaving things late. Incoming won't know the club, the training staff won't know the players etc. There are 10 days left to ko with registered of players available before the 7th. 10 days.
Those who keep saying g there is plenty of time are seeing it drift away with each post. Clubs like Wycombe in talks with sound players like Sam Volkes.
That says much about our recruitment.
So you know nothing about what Gallen and the team are doing but feel entitled to accuse them of doing diddly squat. You know nothing about Vokes, apart from being "sound" and whether the club wanted him, but feel justified to say this is proof of a poor recruitment strategy.
I don't believe you are as stupid as your comments indicate, you've got nothing new to say and can only assume you must need the attention.
Hello shootershillguru ,l agree that was a good post if fans have the same patience as yourself.If ts and na came out and said that at the end of last season,we’re looking to bring in a few youngsters and a few players on frees the expectation of a lot of fans wouldn’t be so high. But no, you had NA saying that will us next year (hull celebrating winning title) and TS saying we’re gonna blow league 1 out of the water.with the squad at the moment the only thing that’s gonna blow is our chances of promotion.spend a few million get them class players,go flat out for promotion (like Ipswich) get in the championship,get 27,000 back in the stadium,Ts will soon get his money back.
I may be in the minority, but I’m glad Sandgaard hasn’t spent “a few million” on players this summer. Yes, it would have been exciting to have some big names come in, but it’s not financially viable to be spending that kind of cash in this league. I feel more positive that Sandgaard is looking at the long game and ensuring we still exist and in a position to improve/grow in the years to come.
I’ll be very interested to hear from those who think we should be spending like Ipswich now, if in May Ipswich fail to be promoted.
I really don't care about Ipswich, I want us to get promoted. I get the fact that TS has come in & possibly saved the club from extinction & we should all be grateful for that. I also get that it's his money that some of us are trying to spend but really we need to get out of this division asap & I don't see it happening this season taking the approach that we have. We should be ( & maybe were) challenging for the best players in this division not hunting around for bargains or relying on youngsters who aren't ready for league 1 football. Again I appreciate that it's his money but getting to the championship is imperative & we can take stock when we get there & build steadily. All we seem to be doing at the moment is treading water & we'll probably be having the same conversation next close season.
We’re an established league one club and we’re having established league one problems. Heart has been ripped out of Charlton systematically for best part of a decade. Even the most enthusiastic and richest of owners couldn’t fix that overnight. Miraculously and thankfully our wonderful academy has remained able to produce talent. Mr. Sandgaard has ambitions but a lot of groundwork needs doing before we are again a well run club. I think he’s getting there but it’s not cheap and he’s not fantastically wealthy by football standards. We all want instant success and gratification but realistically it’s going to take a few years. No doubt we’ll be competitive but no more than probably eight or nine other clubs. Playoffs have to be our target and anything else an unbelievable bonus. I think we’ll be back in the Championship but we might not get there quite as quickly as we all hope and want. At this point CAFC are building for the future. We need to recognise that. Our time will come again I have no doubt.
Totally agree. Sandgaard isn't throwing money about and I've seen a few idiots on twitter comparing him to RD . The obvious difference is that the former is showing he cares and putting a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the club out off the pitch.
I hope most fans see what you see and appreciate this will take time. Always going to be a few who don't, and one criticism is that Sandgaard and to a lesser extent Adkins have increased expectation with their comments. In hindsight, this could definitely have been handled better, I'm sure the boss will learn from it.
Now the season ticket is nearly at its limit of attraction to buyers what is to be learned by the boss or owner ? Those who took the bait of smashing the league with images of celebrations are already ensnared and have paid up.
I would have bought one anyway.
Do you refer to anyone with whom you disagrees as an idiot ? It seems so because you called people who compare TS to RD as such.
From one point of view this is possible. From another they could have a point. It doesn’t mean that they are all pro RD though. Just that they disagree with you.
To be honest, if people compare TS to RD, they deserve to be called idiots.
if someone is called an idiot purely for having a differing opinion, then valid point, that’s wrong.
I take it that the poster is guilty of the first example and not the second.
Why do you say that ? He said he had seen a few idiots on twitter for comparing TS with RD. That was all.
My point is people are not necessarily idiots for doing such just because he disagrees. We can’t just declare everyone who disagrees with us an idiot without fully knowing the view point.
I don't do face book or twitter or alike so can't check. I am not a fan of either.
This is like saying you can’t call a flat earther an idiot just for having a different opinion.
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A rumour, A rumour, My Kingdom for a rumour..
if someone is called an idiot purely for having a differing opinion, then valid point, that’s wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021–22_Accrington_Stanley_F.C._season#Transfers_in
Accrington have signed 10 players this month, so it hasn't stopped them signing players
If you want to debate some of Sandgaard's decisions fine, there's probably legitimate criticism to be made (hyping things up and an apparent naivety about the sheer cost of transfer business for example.) But Duchatlet comparisons are not legitimate criticism.
And I never said they were pro RD. You must be on a constant wind up. Always digging people out and then cop the hump and accuse people of bullying when they respond.
why is that comparison being made, because TS isn’t spending millions during a window where the market is slow for lots of reason. I think the term idiots has been wisely used in this case.
I don't believe you are as stupid as your comments indicate, you've got nothing new to say and can only assume you must need the attention.
Maybe we should all just not reply.
Cullen signed for us on the 30th of August during our league 1 season
Bielik was on the 16th of August
I'm expecting similar.