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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    No one seems to have considered we play Crewe in 2 games time so he might not have been scouting for potential signings. Could have pre-game prep for future opponent 
    I heard he was in Crewe, not at Oxford.

    Neither Dale nor Lowery traveled to Oxford but that's pure speculation on my part.  It could be that Crewe is a convenient place to meet representatives of clubs and players based in the North West in regards to different signings. 

    Or he could have a bit on the side there.... 
    Lowery won't be travelling anywhere with Crewe at the moment. He's been frozen out and didn't even feature in pre-season games as he won't sign a new contract.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    No one seems to have considered we play Crewe in 2 games time so he might not have been scouting for potential signings. Could have pre-game prep for future opponent 
    I heard he was in Crewe, not at Oxford.

    Neither Dale nor Lowery traveled to Oxford but that's pure speculation on my part.  It could be that Crewe is a convenient place to meet representatives of clubs and players based in the North West in regards to different signings. 

    Or he could have a bit on the side there.... 
    Lowery won't be travelling anywhere with Crewe at the moment. He's been frozen out and didn't even feature in pre-season games as he won't sign a new contract.
    I know that which means he is highly likely to be in Crewe, or the surrounding area yesterday...... 
  • Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    If Cawleys tweet is accurate, he wouldn’t be scouting anyone, he would be negotiating a deal - either with the selling club or the player and his agent. 
  • Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    If Cawleys tweet is accurate, he wouldn’t be scouting anyone, he would be negotiating a deal - either with the selling club or the player and his agent. 
    Maybe he went for a job interview ?
  • Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    No one seems to have considered we play Crewe in 2 games time so he might not have been scouting for potential signings. Could have pre-game prep for future opponent 

  • If there is anything in the Ged Roddy nepotism conspiracy going on what I struggle with is the role of Nigel Adkins and up to a point Johnnie Jackson. Both are senior playing side with a lot of kudos and experience. I couldn’t see them buying into it if I’m honest. 
    What are they meant to do, stage a coup? 

    People are angry with the performances and are looking for a bogeyman to direct all the blame towards. 
    You’ve totally missed the point. If as suggested there is nepotism from Roddy then I would hope those two, manager and assistant manager to say I’m not having that. What’s this coup bollox about. 
    Roddy wouldn’t have signed his son without Adkins’ approval. If he did, I’d be more concerned about how weak our manager is. There’s no evidence for either and until there is, I’m not going to get sucked into the vacuum of anger. 
  • Rumours round up?


    Rumours in

    Henderson -  training with us, was alleged to have signed about 2 weeks ago.

    Blackett- Taylor - league 2 winger on trial.


    Not exactly inspiring, Blackett-taylor hasn't exactly set league 2 "on fire", prefer a more "ready" player as back up over the youth as think they benefit more from a well measured introduction, but, if that's the bench warmer/ competition for DJ/Washington/Kirk then might as well leave that spot for Clayden and Ghandor and alternate them on the bench. Especially if there's a budget constraint and the need for more signings.

    Henderson... Injuries are an issue but I guess you wouldn't expect him to play much, again, do you keep Harness on the bench instead and manage that money better.

    Rumours out - like the ins we've not heard a peep about any of our players being sniffed at, in particular, Schwartz. 

    We're all expecting him to be off but there hasnt been a whisper of him going, either perm or loan, you'd imagine given his recent personal life changes and the fact he doesn't look fancied by Adkins, that his agent would be working his nuts off to get him out, but, nope. Nothing. Zippo.

    Personally think he isn't leaving, a touch of Sandgaard influence perhaps.
    Can we add Roddy (x2) and Keohane to the exit list?
  • edited August 2021
    If there is anything in the Ged Roddy nepotism conspiracy going on what I struggle with is the role of Nigel Adkins and up to a point Johnnie Jackson. Both are senior playing side with a lot of kudos and experience. I couldn’t see them buying into it if I’m honest. 
    What are they meant to do, stage a coup? 

    People are angry with the performances and are looking for a bogeyman to direct all the blame towards. 
    You’ve totally missed the point. If as suggested there is nepotism from Roddy then I would hope those two, manager and assistant manager to say I’m not having that. What’s this coup bollox about. 
    Roddy wouldn’t have signed his son without Adkins’ approval. If he did, I’d be more concerned about how weak our manager is. There’s no evidence for either and until there is, I’m not going to get sucked into the vacuum of anger. 
     Surely Avory would get a say on youngsters moving up to pro contracts?
    A man of his integrity surely would have advised we get him in the U18/U23s and have a look before you go offering him a contract.
    The speed at which he's got in the door stinks if you ask me.
  • edited August 2021
    We've just signed a player from Crewe, for all we know he's there tidying things up in regards to Kirk, maybe even meeting his family given the recent news, it's not like we have a CEO to do all that, and Gallen was pretty active in all sorts when he was appointed DOF to begin with.
  • Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    No one seems to have considered we play Crewe in 2 games time so he might not have been scouting for potential signings. Could have pre-game prep for future opponent 
    Stop being the voice of reason and being sensible. Get pissed up tonight and tell us what you really think 🤪
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  • edited August 2021
    If there is anything in the Ged Roddy nepotism conspiracy going on what I struggle with is the role of Nigel Adkins and up to a point Johnnie Jackson. Both are senior playing side with a lot of kudos and experience. I couldn’t see them buying into it if I’m honest. 
    What are they meant to do, stage a coup? 

    People are angry with the performances and are looking for a bogeyman to direct all the blame towards. 
    You’ve totally missed the point. If as suggested there is nepotism from Roddy then I would hope those two, manager and assistant manager to say I’m not having that. What’s this coup bollox about. 
    Roddy wouldn’t have signed his son without Adkins’ approval. If he did, I’d be more concerned about how weak our manager is. There’s no evidence for either and until there is, I’m not going to get sucked into the vacuum of anger. 
     Surely Avory would get a say on youngsters moving up to pro contracts?
    A man of his integrity surely would have advised we get him in the U18/U23s and have a look before you go offering him a contract.
    The speed at which he's got in the door stinks if you ask me.
    I agree, there’s certainly an aspect that leads me to believe he’s been fast tracked - but I don’t have enough evidence to start pointing fingers or protest anything. 

    If Adkins didn’t rate him why has he been playing in preseason and in a first team cup game? Adkins is either a complete yes man, which his time at Hull suggests he isn’t, or he rates the kid enough to play him.
  • If there is anything in the Ged Roddy nepotism conspiracy going on what I struggle with is the role of Nigel Adkins and up to a point Johnnie Jackson. Both are senior playing side with a lot of kudos and experience. I couldn’t see them buying into it if I’m honest. 
    What are they meant to do, stage a coup? 

    People are angry with the performances and are looking for a bogeyman to direct all the blame towards. 
    You’ve totally missed the point. If as suggested there is nepotism from Roddy then I would hope those two, manager and assistant manager to say I’m not having that. What’s this coup bollox about. 
    Roddy wouldn’t have signed his son without Adkins’ approval. If he did, I’d be more concerned about how weak our manager is. There’s no evidence for either and until there is, I’m not going to get sucked into the vacuum of anger. 
     Surely Avory would get a say on youngsters moving up to pro contracts?
    A man of his integrity surely would have advised we get him in the U18/U23s and have a look before you go offering him a contract.
    The speed at which he's got in the door stinks if you ask me.
    I agree, there’s certainly an aspect that leads me to believe he’s been fast tracked - but I don’t have enough evidence to start pointing fingers or protest anything. 

    If Adkins didn’t rate him why has he been playing in preseason and in a first team cup game? Adkins is either a complete yes man, which his time at Hull suggests he isn’t, or he rates the kid enough to play him.
    Yeah, as much as the whole thing about Roddy Jr getting a contract is a bit odd (to say the least) I'm not sure we can go as far as saying Daddy is somehow responsible for getting him game time as well.

    For one thing, why would Gunter be playing there at all if that were the case? I can't see how Roddy Sr has the weirdly specific amount of influence to interfere with team selection but only in some games. 

    Secondly, why would Adkins go along with it? He's already proved willing to leave a job if he's got issues with interference from above but now he's suddenly lost his spine? Doesn't seem likely.

    I think Junior got given a chance on his own merits and probably blew it, frankly. 
  • If there is anything in the Ged Roddy nepotism conspiracy going on what I struggle with is the role of Nigel Adkins and up to a point Johnnie Jackson. Both are senior playing side with a lot of kudos and experience. I couldn’t see them buying into it if I’m honest. 
    What are they meant to do, stage a coup? 

    People are angry with the performances and are looking for a bogeyman to direct all the blame towards. 
    You’ve totally missed the point. If as suggested there is nepotism from Roddy then I would hope those two, manager and assistant manager to say I’m not having that. What’s this coup bollox about. 
    Roddy wouldn’t have signed his son without Adkins’ approval. If he did, I’d be more concerned about how weak our manager is. There’s no evidence for either and until there is, I’m not going to get sucked into the vacuum of anger. 
     Surely Avory would get a say on youngsters moving up to pro contracts?
    A man of his integrity surely would have advised we get him in the U18/U23s and have a look before you go offering him a contract.
    The speed at which he's got in the door stinks if you ask me.
    I agree, there’s certainly an aspect that leads me to believe he’s been fast tracked - but I don’t have enough evidence to start pointing fingers or protest anything. 

    If Adkins didn’t rate him why has he been playing in preseason and in a first team cup game? Adkins is either a complete yes man, which his time at Hull suggests he isn’t, or he rates the kid enough to play him.
    The bigger issue / question is whether Ged has delayed the acquisition of a new left back to give his son a game. I don’t know enough about the u23s or u18s to know if there was a better natural left back to play in the cup game who may have been “held back” by JR playing that game or making the league squad. If he is all we have then I have no problem with NA over the team selection. 
  • edited August 2021
    https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/announcement/sam-woods-departs-crystal-palace/2021-08-18/

    Right footed centre back. Was on loan at Plymouth last year.
    Woods was born on 11 September 1998 and supported Crystal Palace as a child.....

    I am sure I mentioned him about 500 pages ago as one we should look at but the only thing I can find is a thread from 2008 about Bromley's left back and @Dazzler21 released list. 
  • Sage said:
    Whose this guy??
    Load of bollocks .. Roddy played at Southampton. then went into non league .. Roddy never worked at Southampton and never took him to Reading …. what people seem to forget is that Adkins would have final say on players who play in the team / squad and of those he don’t want anymore so if Roddy was not good enough ( seen him in ore season and he done very well ) he would not be here no matter who is dad was 
    Hmmmm, I’m not so sure about that. 
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  • AndyG said:
    Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    If Cawleys tweet is accurate, he wouldn’t be scouting anyone, he would be negotiating a deal - either with the selling club or the player and his agent. 
    Maybe he went for a job interview ?
    Is that because he failed the job interview at QPR the other week?
  • Clarky said:
    AndyG said:
    Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    If Cawleys tweet is accurate, he wouldn’t be scouting anyone, he would be negotiating a deal - either with the selling club or the player and his agent. 
    Maybe he went for a job interview ?
    Is that because he failed the job interview at QPR the other week?
    Haha really? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Sage said:
    Whose this guy??
    Load of bollocks .. Roddy played at Southampton. then went into non league .. Roddy never worked at Southampton and never took him to Reading …. what people seem to forget is that Adkins would have final say on players who play in the team / squad and of those he don’t want anymore so if Roddy was not good enough ( seen him in ore season and he done very well ) he would not be here no matter who is dad was 
    What non league team did he play for? 
    That famous giant of non league football…..
    Bradfield College second XI


  • esseffect said:
    I think regardless, we shouldn’t be calling for someone to get the sack without knowing the truth.

    People in Twitter are rank 
    Blimey someone talking sense …. 
  • esseffect said:
    I think regardless, we shouldn’t be calling for someone to get the sack without knowing the truth.

    People in Twitter are rank 
    Blimey someone talking sense …. 
    As your here Ronnie, I'll ask again because I am sure everyone else would like to know.

    What nonleague club did Jacob Roddy play for? 
  • Swisdom said:
    So do we have any idea who Steve Gallen was scouting last night?  He was definitely off watching someone.  If, as rumours suggested, he was at Crewe then it was a wasted journey watching Dale as he was "sick" apparently
    No one seems to have considered we play Crewe in 2 games time so he might not have been scouting for potential signings. Could have pre-game prep for future opponent 
    You might be right but what’s he gonna do?  Change the XI based on what he’s seen?  With our massive squad full of depth. 
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