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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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I think the intended point was that we were pleased to see the wage cap removed, but haven't capitalised by sepnding - or at least not the extent of Wigan and Ipswich. In other words, not spending enough is a bad idea.addick1956 said:
Yes, there are those who said and I quote, because they heard the rumours of a tight budget, "And to think we rejoiced the wage cap last year was removed ."thenewbie said:
Do we? Has anyone actually said that not spending enough is a good idea or are you looking for trouble yet again?addick1956 said:
And yet we admire TS for his frugality.Mendonca In Asdas said:
Roland didn’t shop in stores, hence the duck tape on the shoes!carly burn said:
Blimey!MarcusH26 said:James Olayinka is an interesting one , spent last season on loan at Southend in L2 , appears he can also fill in at RB too according to the Arsenal site.
We are shopping in stores even Roland dared not go in!
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Not sure 10k p/W for the best players in league one is that ridiculous to be honest and doesn’t particularly surprise me.1
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Wow, I really didn't think it was possible to miss such an obvious point so incredibly widely. That's actually impressive in how wrong you are.addick1956 said:
Yes, there are those who said and I quote, because they heard the rumours of a tight budget, "And to think we rejoiced the wage cap last year was removed ."thenewbie said:
Do we? Has anyone actually said that not spending enough is a good idea or are you looking for trouble yet again?addick1956 said:
And yet we admire TS for his frugality.Mendonca In Asdas said:
Roland didn’t shop in stores, hence the duck tape on the shoes!carly burn said:
Blimey!MarcusH26 said:James Olayinka is an interesting one , spent last season on loan at Southend in L2 , appears he can also fill in at RB too according to the Arsenal site.
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Obviously it is early days and things can change but I would think TS must be wondering wtf is going on. He wanted exciting attacking games and atm if we played all day I honestly dont think we would score.
Is Saturday a nailed on 0-0 before a ball has been kicked ?
I can see attendances start to drop significantly until performances pick up which will certainly cause ripples commercially.
Hopefully there are some serious discussions taking place to address the situation5 -
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but how much do we get from each stream we sell? Would it worry TS that if we’re knocking about in lower L1 come October then we won’t be selling many streams?Our production can’t be cheap, paying minto / curbs etc, we need to be competitive or they’ll be presenting to virtually no one.3
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Jack from On the Buses.Wheresmeticket? said:golfaddick said:
someone LIKE Josh Sims.....just not Josh Sims himself.Rothko said:I still think we'll sign someone like Josh Sims in the coming days
He's already got scarfy...5 -
Before Gemma Collins sat on his hatElfsborgAddick said:
Jack from On the Buses.Wheresmeticket? said:golfaddick said:
someone LIKE Josh Sims.....just not Josh Sims himself.Rothko said:I still think we'll sign someone like Josh Sims in the coming days
He's already got scarfy...0 -
In terms of over all cost streams don't count for much. Before any production cost a stream is net £8. Especially the away game where the home team get some of it.Lurker said:Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but how much do we get from each stream we sell? Would it worry TS that if we’re knocking about in lower L1 come October then we won’t be selling many streams?Our production can’t be cheap, paying minto / curbs etc, we need to be competitive or they’ll be presenting to virtually no one.
It's not a lose leader but isn't a significant revenue stream.
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Have you seen the (supposed)Fleetwood wages? I'm not believing those.SoundAsa£ said:Can’t for the life of me see Lincoln City paying a player £19,000 per week……absolutely no way!0 -
Fixed for you.SuedeAdidas said:
Before Gemma Collins sat on his faceElfsborgAddick said:
Jack from On the Buses.Wheresmeticket? said:golfaddick said:
someone LIKE Josh Sims.....just not Josh Sims himself.Rothko said:I still think we'll sign someone like Josh Sims in the coming days
He's already got scarfy...2 -
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It relates to the Premier League players wages that they had on loan.ElfsborgAddick said:
Have you seen the (supposed)Fleetwood wages? I'm not believing those.SoundAsa£ said:Can’t for the life of me see Lincoln City paying a player £19,000 per week……absolutely no way!
They were probably paying very little of these salaries, as we were certainly not paying Maatsen's & Millar's full wages.5 -
Don't for get Matt Smith's. How could anyone forget him :-)Covered End said:
It relates to the Premier League players wages that they had on loan.ElfsborgAddick said:
Have you seen the (supposed)Fleetwood wages? I'm not believing those.SoundAsa£ said:Can’t for the life of me see Lincoln City paying a player £19,000 per week……absolutely no way!
They were probably paying very little of these salaries, as we were certainly not paying Maatsen's & Millar's full wages.0 -
But Bowyer said its cheaper in league 1.......addick1956 said:
Yes, correct and not spening enough is being frugal, like RD who was, really , equally unwise.Gillis said:
I think the intended point was that we were pleased to see the wage cap removed, but haven't capitalised by sepnding - or at least not the extent of Wigan and Ipswich. In other words, not spending enough is a bad idea.addick1956 said:
Yes, there are those who said and I quote, because they heard the rumours of a tight budget, "And to think we rejoiced the wage cap last year was removed ."thenewbie said:
Do we? Has anyone actually said that not spending enough is a good idea or are you looking for trouble yet again?addick1956 said:
And yet we admire TS for his frugality.Mendonca In Asdas said:
Roland didn’t shop in stores, hence the duck tape on the shoes!carly burn said:
Blimey!MarcusH26 said:James Olayinka is an interesting one , spent last season on loan at Southend in L2 , appears he can also fill in at RB too according to the Arsenal site.
We are shopping in stores even Roland dared not go in!0 -
All that says is you have 2 Sunderland mates who are both stupid..Cafc43v3r said:
The first one talks of 70k, my two Sunderland supporting mates, who don't know each other have both mentioned 80k in the past, what ever it was 40k in league 1 is the main issue that is obscene.cafcfan1990 said:
Do they? Don't see any mention of 80k. My mate reckons he was on around 50k in the Prem, 25% pay cut after relegation.Cafc43v3r said:
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/420723/sunderland-player-wages-lee-cattermole/ElliotCAFC said:Cafc43v3r said:
He was on 80 in the prem!!stoneroses19 said:
I’m definitely out of touch with football in general these days. I get what he brings to a side, but £40k a week for Cattermole seems ridiculous.Cafc43v3r said:Cattermole was on about 40k a week in league 1, his salary halved when they got relegated from the Premiership but not the championship.
No chance Sunderland where paying Lee Cattermole £80k per week.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sunderland-afc-transfer-lee-cattermole-16516120
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2019/6/6/18653488/roker-roundtable-should-sunderland-keep-or-sell-release-lee-cattermole-this-summer
These all seem to suggest they were.
Edit sorry its Rodwell on 70k.0 -
Probably still 2 more mates than you have got if that is your attempt at humour.esseffect said:
All that says is you have 2 Sunderland mates who are both stupid..Cafc43v3r said:
The first one talks of 70k, my two Sunderland supporting mates, who don't know each other have both mentioned 80k in the past, what ever it was 40k in league 1 is the main issue that is obscene.cafcfan1990 said:
Do they? Don't see any mention of 80k. My mate reckons he was on around 50k in the Prem, 25% pay cut after relegation.Cafc43v3r said:
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/420723/sunderland-player-wages-lee-cattermole/ElliotCAFC said:Cafc43v3r said:
He was on 80 in the prem!!stoneroses19 said:
I’m definitely out of touch with football in general these days. I get what he brings to a side, but £40k a week for Cattermole seems ridiculous.Cafc43v3r said:Cattermole was on about 40k a week in league 1, his salary halved when they got relegated from the Premiership but not the championship.
No chance Sunderland where paying Lee Cattermole £80k per week.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sunderland-afc-transfer-lee-cattermole-16516120
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2019/6/6/18653488/roker-roundtable-should-sunderland-keep-or-sell-release-lee-cattermole-this-summer
These all seem to suggest they were.
Edit sorry its Rodwell on 70k.14 -
Matthews lost the 2nd goalscorer Saturday (can't remember his name sorry) he had a 5 yard start & looked like he was running in treacle.CAFCBourne said:Rothko said:
Pearce is still a decent enough League 1 player, Watson is probably past it, but they along with Gunter, Washington and Matthews (who are still good players in this division) are needed in this group to give it a bit of experience. Hopefully we add more in the coming weeksarny23394 said:
Agree with what you say, but the players you listed were good players despite their age. Watson and to a lesser extent, Pearce, are toilet.Rothko said:
Exactly, you can't just drop the age and hope it works, even the 'can't win anything with kids' United team had Schmeichel, Irwin, Bruce, Pallister, Cantona, Keane, Giggs and David May (yeah I know, he won a Champions League medal) in that squad and team. You need experienced pros around the kids to help them developSuedeAdidas said:I thought it was fair clear from NA's comments that the Pearce contract was as much to do with nurturing / mentoring the younger players as much as it was to do with being a back up CB.
You can't just reduce the age of a squad by kicking out every player over xx age. Younger players coming through need to see some older, more experienced players along side them on the pitch....not just words from experienced coaches in training IMO.
Pearce is also in the process of getting his coaching badges etc so I think that the extension was a fairly decent decision for all parties.
Matthews is not good, rubbish delivery and stands off his attacker allowing the cross in far too often. The sooner we get a left back I’d give Gunter a go. I’m not saying Gunters better but he deserves a chance in his natural position4 -
Indeed it was crazy, some clubs wont even be spending that an a combined XI.Cafc43v3r said:
The first one talks of 70k, my two Sunderland supporting mates, who don't know each other have both mentioned 80k in the past, what ever it was 40k in league 1 is the main issue that is obscene.cafcfan1990 said:
Do they? Don't see any mention of 80k. My mate reckons he was on around 50k in the Prem, 25% pay cut after relegation.Cafc43v3r said:
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/420723/sunderland-player-wages-lee-cattermole/ElliotCAFC said:Cafc43v3r said:
He was on 80 in the prem!!stoneroses19 said:
I’m definitely out of touch with football in general these days. I get what he brings to a side, but £40k a week for Cattermole seems ridiculous.Cafc43v3r said:Cattermole was on about 40k a week in league 1, his salary halved when they got relegated from the Premiership but not the championship.
No chance Sunderland where paying Lee Cattermole £80k per week.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sunderland-afc-transfer-lee-cattermole-16516120
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2019/6/6/18653488/roker-roundtable-should-sunderland-keep-or-sell-release-lee-cattermole-this-summer
These all seem to suggest they were.
Edit sorry its Rodwell on 70k.0 -
Aaron Ramsey (not the Welsh lad) from ASTON VILLA a 18 year old midfielder who scored twice already in 2 games this season in U23 double figures last season has been capped by England at U16, U17 and U18 level. surely worth a loan ?4
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It’s definitely correct, I remember reading about it at the time. They had a few players on mega contracts, who they begged to tear them up. The players weren’t interested.
Indeed it was crazy, some clubs wont even have an XI on that much in total.1 -
Am still really impressed how tight lipped we are keeping our transfer and loan targets this year. A huge difference from previous years and every other club in fact.
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They were still paying some of those players until recently even though they left in 2019. Some ridiculous contracts written up while they were in the Premier League.Charlton_Road_James said:
It’s definitely correct, I remember reading about it at the time. They had a few players on mega contracts, who they begged to tear them up. The players weren’t interested.
Indeed it was crazy, some clubs wont even have an XI on that much in total.1 -
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Last year they paid ex players as much as some clubs in the same division paid all their players. Mental.stoneroses19 said:
They were still paying some of those players until recently even though they left in 2019. Some ridiculous contracts written up while they were in the Premier League.Charlton_Road_James said:
It’s definitely correct, I remember reading about it at the time. They had a few players on mega contracts, who they begged to tear them up. The players weren’t interested.
Indeed it was crazy, some clubs wont even have an XI on that much in total.1 -
When does the window close?0
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Not sure when it closes, but can tell you it slams shut at on Tuesday 31st August at 23:59.Valley11 said:When does the window close?9 -
It would be reassuring to know if we have actually got anymendonca said:Am still really impressed how tight lipped we are keeping our transfer and loan targets this year. A huge difference from previous years and every other club in fact.
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Think thats just for Premier League clubs, think we've got an extra couple of daysFishCostaFortune said:
Not sure when it closes, but can tell you it slams shut at on Tuesday 31st August at 23:59.Valley11 said:When does the window close?
If it is the 31st then its 11pm when it closes 0 -
The 2021 English football summer transfer window runs from 24 May to 2 September 2021. Players without a club may be signed at any time, clubs may sign players on loan dependent on their league's regulations, and clubs may sign a goalkeeper on an emergency loan if they have no registered senior goalkeeper available.
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Might be a decent move, I got confused with his Brother for a moment as know Jacob Ramsey has already played for the Senior Team so couldnt imagine him dropping to League OneTheAddicks4Ever said:Aaron Ramsey (not the Welsh lad) from ASTON VILLA a 18 year old midfielder who scored twice already in 2 games this season in U23 double figures last season has been capped by England at U16, U17 and U18 level. surely worth a loan ?0
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