Portugal lost a home Euros final in 2004, won one in 2016.
France lost a home Euros final in 2016, won the WC in 2018.
Average age of our starting XI was just over 26 with subs aged 19, 31, 25, 23, 21. We've reached a semi final and a final in the last two 'proper' tournaments, with the Nations League semi in between.
In the next 5 years we have 2 World Cups and another Euros.
So proud of the squad and coaching staff and the spirit, unity and atmosphere they have created.
18 months until Qatar and every single one of these players will still be playing at a high level.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
18 months until Qatar and every single one of these players will still be playing at a high level.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
18 months until Qatar and every single one of these players will still be playing at a high level.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
Gomez too obvs 😉
Oh yeah of course. Probably will end up being the 3rd CB instead of Walker who is 31 now.
18 months until Qatar and every single one of these players will still be playing at a high level.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
Gomez too obvs 😉
Oh yeah of course. Probably will end up being the 3rd CB instead of Walker who is 31 now.
Think Walker has one more tourney. His pace saved our defence a few times.
Proud of everyone involved in that England setup. We forget so quickly that expectations weren't too high before the start, many of us felt getting to a semi would be a great achievement. We went one better and was that close to winning the whole thing.
The smiles I've seen on faces when walking the streets, the chats I've had to random people, the hope given to all of us after the past year and a half and the pride we have again when wearing the three lions again. Thank you for all of it.
Scoring early on can be a bit of a poisoned chalice but we played very well in the first half, conceding from a set piece always makes me feel sick. Italy were the poster boys early on in the tournament and we grew into it
I've been so so happy since the first goal v ze Germans and this team keep breaking down barriers. I am gutted like all of us and I'm not expecting us to get to a final again in my lifetime and to lose on penalties is sickening as it always is.
It was a wonderful tournament....the best highlights for me were Spain v Italy, England v Germany, France v Switzerland. British Open, rest of Tour De France and Olympics to look forward to...and the season starts Aug 8th....great summer for sport
If we go down the road of blaming individuals or calling for the manager to be sacked we repeat the mistakes that meant we didn't reach a final for 55 years.
Yes, maybe someone else could/should have taken the pens but they might have missed too.
We are going places if we stick with it, we're progressing even if that was small comfort last night.
Overall, Italy were the best team tonight and over the whole tournament and deserved to win, we deserved to be runners up.
Saw a lot of our players immediately take off their medals. They weren't content to finish second which is a good sign for the future.
We have a great set of players, and, despite the understandable post match scramble to find blame, I believe one who are well coached, managed, and have the potential to go one better next time out.
Support wise, the country came together, it crossed communities in a way we haven't seen so clearly in previous tournaments, this was an England team for today's England, a country I am very proud to be part of.
Most importantly, on the playing side, I believe we have promoted ourselves from competing with good sides like Croatia & the Czech Republic, to competing with the top sides like Italy and Germany. We have grown from a potential QF team to a potential Final team and I believe that will continue for the next 2-3 tournaments, there are untold nations across the globe that just wont ever get to see their team achieve that.
Waking today, gutted, deflated, what if's floating about in the head every few minutes, it might not make immediate sense but I think England, on and off the field, have made huge strides this past few weeks, as mentioned by @KiwiValley in a sense 'Football has come home'.
18 months until Qatar and every single one of these players will still be playing at a high level.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
Gomez? Or am I wearing my Charlton tinted glasses?
We have a great set of players, and, despite the understandable post match scramble to find blame, I believe one who are well coached, managed, and have the potential to go one better next time out.
Support wise, the country came together, it crossed communities in a way we haven't seen so clearly in previous tournaments, this was an England team for today's England, a country I am very proud to be part of.
Most importantly, on the playing side, I believe we have promoted ourselves from competing with good sides like Croatia & the Czech Republic, to competing with the top sides like Italy and Germany. We have grown from a potential QF team to a potential Final team and I believe that will continue for the next 2-3 tournaments, there are untold nations across the globe that just wont ever get to see their team achieve that.
Waking today, gutted, deflated, what if's floating about in the head every few minutes, it might not make immediate sense but I think England, on and off the field, have made huge strides this past few weeks, as mentioned by @KiwiValley in a sense 'Football has come home'.
18 months until Qatar and every single one of these players will still be playing at a high level.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
Gomez? Or am I wearing my Charlton tinted glasses?
If Joe can stay fit consistently then he definitely goes . There's always a Bellingham type player that comes from absolutely nowhere too.
Think without his injury Nick Pope would have been there too , think there's an interesting battle for the keepers shirt to come.
I'm going to go against the majority here and say that the only negative is Southgate. A WC semi and Euro final will make him untouchable, yet I believe that these heights were reached because of the fantastic squad he has at his disposal and hampered only by his negative style of football. A fantastic start to last nights match before he had us just sitting back and trying desperately to hang on. Italy are not a high pressing team, yet they kept us pinned in our own box for all of the second half and extra time. I'd rather see us lose 3-2 and be going for the win, but instead he turned the greatest England game of my lifetime into a tense bore fest, where is was so evident from the HT break that plan A was to desperately try to hold on to the single goal lead and once they equalized, we were playing for penalties from that moment onwards. Then when it's looking clear that penalties were going to happen, he then takes off his most experienced players (Henderson & Walker) to replace them with kids at the very death, giving them no time to get a feel for the game and settle down. I really feel for the players who missed those pens, espcially Saka, who has been tremendous this tournament. Yes, he probably volunteered to take a kick, but Southgate shouldn't have let him take on that burden. All through the build-up to this tournament, I've heard so many managers and ex pros saying how we need to build our play around Grealish and how key he will be, yet GS just seemed reluctant to play him and probably only did so because of so many calls for him to be included, rather than what he wanted.
Yes, over the last 2 tournaments he's made us hard to beat, but the cost of it is he has sacrificed what is probably the best attacking group of players of our lifetimes.
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We'll be back in this position again - Stick with everyone from Southgate to Holland, Jones and Powell
2018 in Russia was just the beginning
Bloody brilliant effort and we are so lucky to live in such a great country.
Well done England
Says it all.
France lost a home Euros final in 2016, won the WC in 2018.
Average age of our starting XI was just over 26 with subs aged 19, 31, 25, 23, 21. We've reached a semi final and a final in the last two 'proper' tournaments, with the Nations League semi in between.
In the next 5 years we have 2 World Cups and another Euros.
So proud of the squad and coaching staff and the spirit, unity and atmosphere they have created.
Our time will come. We still believe.
Would keep the group together as it is and keep the consistency into the World Cup. Can't see any players getting into this 26 other than maybe Greenwood or Alexander-Arnold.
Use the games for the next 18 months to figure out a decent formation and settled first XI that can all play off each other and understand the style of play.
Yet hasnt once gone to a Major Tournament
The smiles I've seen on faces when walking the streets, the chats I've had to random people, the hope given to all of us after the past year and a half and the pride we have again when wearing the three lions again. Thank you for all of it.
Scoring early on can be a bit of a poisoned chalice but we played very well in the first half, conceding from a set piece always makes me feel sick. Italy were the poster boys early on in the tournament and we grew into it
I've been so so happy since the first goal v ze Germans and this team keep breaking down barriers. I am gutted like all of us and I'm not expecting us to get to a final again in my lifetime and to lose on penalties is sickening as it always is.
Yes, maybe someone else could/should have taken the pens but they might have missed too.
We are going places if we stick with it, we're progressing even if that was small comfort last night.
Overall, Italy were the best team tonight and over the whole tournament and deserved to win, we deserved to be runners up.
Saw a lot of our players immediately take off their medals. They weren't content to finish second which is a good sign for the future.
We have a great set of players, and, despite the understandable post match scramble to find blame, I believe one who are well coached, managed, and have the potential to go one better next time out.
Support wise, the country came together, it crossed communities in a way we haven't seen so clearly in previous tournaments, this was an England team for today's England, a country I am very proud to be part of.
Most importantly, on the playing side, I believe we have promoted ourselves from competing with good sides like Croatia & the Czech Republic, to competing with the top sides like Italy and Germany. We have grown from a potential QF team to a potential Final team and I believe that will continue for the next 2-3 tournaments, there are untold nations across the globe that just wont ever get to see their team achieve that.
Waking today, gutted, deflated, what if's floating about in the head every few minutes, it might not make immediate sense but I think England, on and off the field, have made huge strides this past few weeks, as mentioned by @KiwiValley in a sense 'Football has come home'.
Think without his injury Nick Pope would have been there too , think there's an interesting battle for the keepers shirt to come.