What you get with Clare is a midfielder who doesn't score enough goals, a right back who can be positionally exposed quite easily but is acceptable at league one level or a player who can play on the right side of a defensive three which I think is where he is best suited. If you want a left back who slows down your offensive play, maybe he is the one for you but who wants that? He does bring energy to the side in fairness.
I would have considered keeping him for squad options but it shouldn't be too hard to get better. But as in the case of Washington, it wasn't too hard to get better but we didn't get anybody and that actually made us worse.
Bet he's well pleased at joining a third team in a row and played out of position. Maybe he needs to accept that coaches see him as a full back now and hone his craft there as much as he can
To be fair he didn't make a comment (or stink) about the RB/CM situation over his time here did he? In fact on joining Wigan, he says...
“I can play a variety of positions, and I feel like I can bring a lot in different positions for different reasons. I’m an exciting player who will give his all at every opportunity."
Good for him, he'll join up again with Pratley who amazingly is still going, managing 37 games last year, top pro who'll be 40 before the season ends and should pass 700 career games.
Good for him, he'll join up again with Pratley who amazingly is still going, managing 37 games last year, top pro who'll be 40 before the season ends and should pass 700 career games.
Good for him, he'll join up again with Pratley who amazingly is still going, managing 37 games last year, top pro who'll be 40 before the season ends and should pass 700 career games.
Surprised he's gone one year into a three year deal at Wigan. I'm never sure if they're destitute again or not but it looks like Clare fell out of favour a bit towards the end of the season so maybe a good move all round
I’m surprised he got a three year deal, but good luck to him. He wouldn’t last five minutes in Nathan side because he’s not disciplined enough.
Disagree, he was a hard working player able to run all day and play in different positions. I think NJ would love his effort and work rate and could coach the positional discipline, easier to do when NJ has a fairly fixed system of play, unlike some of the pervious managers.
Under rated IMHO by many Charlton fans and has proved that as he continued to play in league 1 when it was said league 2 or national league was his level.
I’m surprised he got a three year deal, but good luck to him. He wouldn’t last five minutes in Nathan side because he’s not disciplined enough.
Disagree, he was a hard working player able to run all day and play in different positions. I think NJ would love to effort and work rate and could coach the positional discipline, easier to do when NJ has a fairly fixed system of play, unlike some of the pervious managers.
Under rated IMHO by many Charlton fans and has proved that as he continued to play in league 1 when it was said league 2 or national league was his level.
Not saying we should sign him back.
The season before last he was one of the very few Charlton players that I actually enjoyed watching play for us.
I’m surprised he got a three year deal, but good luck to him. He wouldn’t last five minutes in Nathan side because he’s not disciplined enough.
Disagree, he was a hard working player able to run all day and play in different positions. I think NJ would love his effort and work rate and could coach the positional discipline, easier to do when NJ has a fairly fixed system of play, unlike some of the pervious managers.
Under rated IMHO by many Charlton fans and has proved that as he continued to play in league 1 when it was said league 2 or national league was his level.
Not saying we should sign him back.
Would have written this. Clare was nowhere near as bad as some make out. I think he’ll do well at LO
The defence two seasons ago with Clare in it was much better than last seasons although that is a low bar. I think Clare was decent for us, Wigan fans rate him and it's a good signing for Orient.
I agree with Swisdom, I think Jones would hate him. With Jones it's not just about being physical and a hard worker, it's about exacting positional discipline. No-one would have accused Alfie May of not being a hard worker but he didn't fit tactically and Jones would get very frustrated with him not following the tactical plan the way he wanted. Clare lacks the pace to be a wing back in a Jones team and lacks the positional capability to be a midfielder full stop. He wasn't strong or positionally disciplined enough as a centre back and so many of our goals were conceded in the space between the right back and the right centre back. The most frustrating thing for me about Clare is that he never really improved, we just had to move him around into different positions until we found the one where his lack of positional discipline and concentration was less of a concern, and that's been an issue with Clare his whole career; he always ends up being a right back because he's not actually capable of playing anywhere else effectively and he's never been able to fix the parts of his game that make that the case. He's one of the less coachable players we've had. I reckon Jones would have given him a look last season if he'd been there and then moved him on at the first opportunity.
Was one of his biggest critics but never called him a League 2 or Non League player.
He’s an ok League One player, nothing more nothing less. He wasn’t worth the minutes or wages he was getting but would’ve been fine as a squad player because he can, in theory, cover many positions. Not good enough for a team who want to get promoted though.
The defence two seasons ago with Clare in it was much better than last seasons although that is a low bar. I think Clare was decent for us, Wigan fans rate him and it's a good signing for Orient.
Even under Jacko, we had that quite nice spell with him in the back 3 with Jason and Famewo. He thinks he’s a midfielder but he’s not a bad right sided defender .
I still couldn’t tell you his best position, he left weds for hearts wanting to play a more settled role on the wing and played every position on the pitch and did the same at the valley
The defence two seasons ago with Clare in it was much better than last seasons although that is a low bar. I think Clare was decent for us, Wigan fans rate him and it's a good signing for Orient.
Even under Jacko, we had that quite nice spell with him in the back 3 with Jason and Famewo. He thinks he’s a midfielder but he’s not a bad right sided defender .
Well, he definitely not a left back, the one game he did play there, he was awful, having said that, it was the manager’s fault for playing him there. He didn’t even change it at HT.
When you look at the players we have had playing for us over recent seasons he was far, far from the worst of them and although he may have been lacking in quality he was certainly a trier and never hid. I hate how we have to diss everyone who played for us because they weren’t very good. We are an average League One side, none of our players are very good.
The defence two seasons ago with Clare in it was much better than last seasons although that is a low bar. I think Clare was decent for us, Wigan fans rate him and it's a good signing for Orient.
Even under Jacko, we had that quite nice spell with him in the back 3 with Jason and Famewo. He thinks he’s a midfielder but he’s not a bad right sided defender .
Well, we had quite a nice spell, then a rough spell, then an ok spell, then a terrible spell. We didn't win in 7 games at one point and he got a red card for violent conduct in there somewhere. He was a really poor centre back. Decent right back though
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I would have considered keeping him for squad options but it shouldn't be too hard to get better. But as in the case of Washington, it wasn't too hard to get better but we didn't get anybody and that actually made us worse.
“I can play a variety of positions, and I feel like I can bring a lot in different positions for different reasons. I’m an exciting player who will give his all at every opportunity."
Fans just being diggy for no real reason.
Under rated IMHO by many Charlton fans and has proved that as he continued to play in league 1 when it was said league 2 or national league was his level.
Not saying we should sign him back.
He’s an ok League One player, nothing more nothing less. He wasn’t worth the minutes or wages he was getting but would’ve been fine as a squad player because he can, in theory, cover many positions. Not good enough for a team who want to get promoted though.