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CAFC appear on government list of 191 employers who failed to pay the minimum wage

CallumcafcCallumcafc
edited August 2021 in General Charlton
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/employers-named-and-shamed-for-paying-less-than-minimum-wage

“The breaches took place between 2011 and 2018.”

“Charlton Athletic Football Company Limited, Greenwich, SE7, failed to pay £1880.12 to 16 workers”

 “• 47% wrongly deducted pay from workers’ wages, including for uniform and expenses
 • 30% failed to pay workers for all the time they had worked, such as when they worked overtime
 • 19% paid the incorrect apprenticeship rate”
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  • jonseventyfivejonseventyfive
    Sadly it comes as no surprise. 
  • se9addickse9addick
    Disgraceful 
  • EveshamAddickEveshamAddick
    Crewe, Sheffield United and Oldham also from the footballing world on the list.
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    Cardinal Sin said:
    Willing to wager they took place between 2014 and 2018 when we had our wealthiest ever owner, Roland Duchatelet, and loveable Chief Exec 'child-catcher', Katrien Meire.
    Dont think anyone would take that wager given its mentioned in the OP ;) 
  • stoneroses19stoneroses19
    No surprise that our arrears period was 2014 to end of 2017. Basically our period stopped when Meire left. 
  • Cardinal SinCardinal Sin
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cardinal Sin said:
    Willing to wager they took place between 2014 and 2018 when we had our wealthiest ever owner, Roland Duchatelet, and loveable Chief Exec 'child-catcher', Katrien Meire.
    Dont think anyone would take that wager given its mentioned in the OP ;) 
    To be fair, that said 2011-2018 and Duchatelet only bought the club in 2014.
  • StigStig
    Callumcafc said:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/employers-named-and-shamed-for-paying-less-than-minimum-wage

    “The breaches took place between 2011 and 2018.”

    “Charlton Athletic Football Company Limited, Greenwich, SE7, failed to pay £1880.12 to 16 workers”

     “• 47% wrongly deducted pay from workers’ wages, including for uniform and expenses
     • 30% failed to pay workers for all the time they had worked, such as when they worked overtime
     • 19% paid the incorrect apprenticeship rate”
    Just to be clear, the three bullet points relate to all businesses on the list, not just Charlton. It's still a disgrace though. What I'd like to know though, is what happens next? I think it's good that the govt. names and shames these businesses, but surely there should be tougher sanctions than that, 
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  • stoneroses19stoneroses19
    edited August 2021
    Stig said:
    Callumcafc said:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/employers-named-and-shamed-for-paying-less-than-minimum-wage

    “The breaches took place between 2011 and 2018.”

    “Charlton Athletic Football Company Limited, Greenwich, SE7, failed to pay £1880.12 to 16 workers”

     “• 47% wrongly deducted pay from workers’ wages, including for uniform and expenses
     • 30% failed to pay workers for all the time they had worked, such as when they worked overtime
     • 19% paid the incorrect apprenticeship rate”
    Just to be clear, the three bullet points relate to all businesses on the list, not just Charlton. It's still a disgrace though. What I'd like to know though, is what happens next? I think it's good that the govt. names and shames these businesses, but surely there should be tougher sanctions than that, 
    They’ve all been made to repay the money and been fined. 

    “Named employers have since been made to pay back what they owed, and were fined an additional £3.2 million, showing it is never acceptable to underpay workers.”
  • valleynick66valleynick66
    The details are probably more relevant to learn - its not obvious from the headline if this was a repeated issue over 7 years and in which case sums (hopefully) very low for the individuals impacted, how long individuals were out of pocket, an inherited issue from pre RD days not corrected,  if it was a refusal to correct and was disputed by staff  or just potentially an admin oversight (at best) that was remedied when identified. Headline obviously  isn't the whole story.
  • stoneroses19stoneroses19
    valleynick66 said:
    The details are probably more relevant to learn - its not obvious from the headline if this was a repeated issue over 7 years and in which case sums (hopefully) very low for the individuals impacted, how long individuals were out of pocket, an inherited issue from pre RD days not corrected,  if it was a refusal to correct and was disputed by staff  or just potentially an admin oversight (at best) that was remedied when identified. Headline obviously  isn't the whole story.
    Yeah, it’s very different for each company mentioned. I’m sure some were repeat offenders over several years. Coventry City have come out already saying there’s was a one-off 2-hour training session where people weren’t paid at the time, but were slightly afterwards. 
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    T_C_E said:
    No mention to the one that’s been overpaid for years 😉
    that's because it's about minimum wage not minimum ability and minimum effort  :disappointed:
  • HartleypeteHartleypete
    Disgrace, RD doing a Trump. 
  • CAFCTrevCAFCTrev
    edited August 2021
    Given the turnover of staff during that period, how many of the cited employees are actually still working at CAFC? What sort of roles do they cover?
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  • eastterrace6168eastterrace6168
    Appreciate it is nothing to do with Thomas, but would be rather surprised should a statement not come from the club in response to acknowledge failures in previous administrations, ie duchats.
    Sure that Thomas and the current management team are appalled at these findings putting the good name of the club in the press for the wrong reasons.
  • cafcdave123cafcdave123
    due to the fact that TS still has to deal with RD regarding the ground and training ground, I can't imagine him wanting to slag the no good yellow toothed cunt off over this.

  • stoneroses19stoneroses19
    Portsmouth have made an announcement about there mention on the list. They’d made a full statement back in 2018 about the staff not paid enough. 

  • cafcfancafcfan
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Appreciate it is nothing to do with Thomas, but would be rather surprised should a statement not come from the club in response to acknowledge failures in previous administrations, ie duchats.
    Sure that Thomas and the current management team are appalled at these findings putting the good name of the club in the press for the wrong reasons.
    I understand where you are coming from.  But as far as I am aware the COO from that period is still in that role. Surely such an individual, in charge when such appalling and illegal behaviour took place should be facing disciplinary proceedings?

    Of course this is news to us.  But it will not be to the club who probably would have noticed when they had to pay the fine and make recompense to the staff.  Surely, at that time, some form of contrite press release should have gone out?
  • Dazzler21Dazzler21
    Cardinal Sin said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cardinal Sin said:
    Willing to wager they took place between 2014 and 2018 when we had our wealthiest ever owner, Roland Duchatelet, and loveable Chief Exec 'child-catcher', Katrien Meire.
    Dont think anyone would take that wager given its mentioned in the OP ;) 
    To be fair, that said 2011-2018 and Duchatelet only bought the club in 2014.
    And he should have immediately corrected that, especially given the shite he spouted for his Belgian political party. 
  • valleynick66valleynick66
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cardinal Sin said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cardinal Sin said:
    Willing to wager they took place between 2014 and 2018 when we had our wealthiest ever owner, Roland Duchatelet, and loveable Chief Exec 'child-catcher', Katrien Meire.
    Dont think anyone would take that wager given its mentioned in the OP ;) 
    To be fair, that said 2011-2018 and Duchatelet only bought the club in 2014.
    And he should have immediately corrected that, especially given the shite he spouted for his Belgian political party. 
    We don't know when / how the infringement was spotted do we? Entirely possible it was made good as soon as identified / queried / escalated. Given the overall low value (at face value) it may have been an error that was surfaced after the event. Of course it could equally be a long running dispute.

    We don't know the detail is my point - all we seem to know at least it was not an issue after 2018.

  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    No wonder we cant sign anyone!
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