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Sandgaards ego can do one (Ed. And it has for now)
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Davo55 said:SporadicAddick said:people that don't like the thread title can do one.9
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SoleBayAddick said:For goodness sake, let the man have his moment of glory, he's earnt it.1
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Very good statement - and as I had anticipated, the man listens.5
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As the disgruntled fan that started the thread at 5.33 on Saturday I'd like to add a considered view (at least more considered than some of the "banter" above).
Notwithstanding all of the excellent work TS has done, much of which is mentioned in this thread, I was genuinely pissed off that we ran (walked) out to his song. It felt like a disregard for the traditions of the club, and by default, disrespectful to the fans.
Plenty of comments in this thread set out why RRR is so important to many Charlton fans, and TS would have been absolutely aware of this.
Many in the ground on Saturday had waited 18 months to see the team come out to RRR - it was to be a moment that signified a degree of normality, a return to something familiar, a moment to remember what had been missed. This was the fans moment, not TS's.
For people saying that it was collective bedwetting and whining about the smallest things, I disagree. Replacing RRR was not a small thing (as has been demonstrated by the strength of feeling expressed here and elsewhere). It's part of our identity, and you don't give up an identity lightly.
This afternoon's update is welcome and the right call - well done TS and team.
It seems that we finally have an owner that gets it and actually has a long term interest in the club beyond a commercial transaction (though lets not kid ourselves, that's ultimately what it is). He has given us all a bit of hope and I think that was reflected in the attendance and atmosphere on Saturday.
But, lets never be silent or doth our caps and go down the route of "it's his club, he can do what he wants", as we know more than any club that that doesn't always end well.
LLL & BH
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bobmunro said:Very good statement - and as I had anticipated, the man listens.5
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Justice.
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SporadicAddick said:As the disgruntled fan that started the thread at 5.33 on Saturday I'd like to add a considered view (at least more considered than some of the "banter" above).
Notwithstanding all of the excellent work TS has done, much of which is mentioned in this thread, I was genuinely pissed off that we ran (walked) out to his song. It felt like a disregard for the traditions of the club, and by default, disrespectful to the fans.
Plenty of comments in this thread set out why RRR is so important to many Charlton fans, and TS would have been absolutely aware of this.
Many in the ground on Saturday had waited 18 months to see the team come out to RRR - it was to be a moment that signified a degree of normality, a return to something familiar, a moment to remember what had been missed. This was the fans moment, not TS's.
For people saying that it was collective bedwetting and whining about the smallest things, I disagree. Replacing RRR was not a small thing (as has been demonstrated by the strength of feeling expressed here and elsewhere). It's part of our identity, and you don't give up an identity lightly.
This afternoon's update is welcome and the right call - well done TS and team.
It seems that we finally have an owner that gets it and actually has a long term interest in the club beyond a commercial transaction (though lets not kid ourselves, that's ultimately what it is). He has given us all a bit of hope and I think that was reflected in the attendance and atmosphere on Saturday.
But, lets never be silent or doth our caps and go down the route of "it's his club, he can do what he wants", as we know more than any club that that doesn't always end well.
LLL & BH
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SporadicAddick said:As the disgruntled fan that started the thread at 5.33 on Saturday I'd like to add a considered view (at least more considered than some of the "banter" above).
Notwithstanding all of the excellent work TS has done, much of which is mentioned in this thread, I was genuinely pissed off that we ran (walked) out to his song. It felt like a disregard for the traditions of the club, and by default, disrespectful to the fans.
Plenty of comments in this thread set out why RRR is so important to many Charlton fans, and TS would have been absolutely aware of this.
Many in the ground on Saturday had waited 18 months to see the team come out to RRR - it was to be a moment that signified a degree of normality, a return to something familiar, a moment to remember what had been missed. This was the fans moment, not TS's.
For people saying that it was collective bedwetting and whining about the smallest things, I disagree. Replacing RRR was not a small thing (as has been demonstrated by the strength of feeling expressed here and elsewhere). It's part of our identity, and you don't give up an identity lightly.
This afternoon's update is welcome and the right call - well done TS and team.
It seems that we finally have an owner that gets it and actually has a long term interest in the club beyond a commercial transaction (though lets not kid ourselves, that's ultimately what it is). He has given us all a bit of hope and I think that was reflected in the attendance and atmosphere on Saturday.
But, lets never be silent or doth our caps and go down the route of "it's his club, he can do what he wants", as we know more than any club that that doesn't always end well.
LLL & BH6 -
Davo55 said:SporadicAddick said:As the disgruntled fan that started the thread at 5.33 on Saturday I'd like to add a considered view (at least more considered than some of the "banter" above).
Notwithstanding all of the excellent work TS has done, much of which is mentioned in this thread, I was genuinely pissed off that we ran (walked) out to his song. It felt like a disregard for the traditions of the club, and by default, disrespectful to the fans.
Plenty of comments in this thread set out why RRR is so important to many Charlton fans, and TS would have been absolutely aware of this.
Many in the ground on Saturday had waited 18 months to see the team come out to RRR - it was to be a moment that signified a degree of normality, a return to something familiar, a moment to remember what had been missed. This was the fans moment, not TS's.
For people saying that it was collective bedwetting and whining about the smallest things, I disagree. Replacing RRR was not a small thing (as has been demonstrated by the strength of feeling expressed here and elsewhere). It's part of our identity, and you don't give up an identity lightly.
This afternoon's update is welcome and the right call - well done TS and team.
It seems that we finally have an owner that gets it and actually has a long term interest in the club beyond a commercial transaction (though lets not kid ourselves, that's ultimately what it is). He has given us all a bit of hope and I think that was reflected in the attendance and atmosphere on Saturday.
But, lets never be silent or doth our caps and go down the route of "it's his club, he can do what he wants", as we know more than any club that that doesn't always end well.
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TBH the whole RRR debacle could have been avoided by better communicationThe agenda for Saturday was well publicised it COULD OR SHOULD have been advertised.... " traditional Red, Red Robin song will be played when a variety of Charlton legends are introduced onto the pitch as part of the celebration of Curbishley. Thomas's new song "Addicks to Victory" will be played as a one off as team come out. (Simple Enough)It feels that TS is to exposed and needs the support of either a CEO or a senior member of CAFC staff who can help him navigate and steer through these early days as owner of a famous London Club.Buying Charlton, you get the club, team but also a passionate fan base who have been well and truly shafted by previous owners. Lets move on now, TS is still enjoying himself and why not, but actions speak louder than words or songs, so lets hope that when the transfer window closes TS has bought in new players to give Adkins the team he will need to get us out of League one. I also hope that TS doesn't wait too long before he buys the Valley and Sparrows Lane off RD.1
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SporadicAddick said:Many in the ground on Saturday had waited 18 months to see the team come out to RRR - it was to be a moment that signified a degree of normality, a return to something familiar, a moment to remember what had been missed. This was the fans moment, not TS's.
I am not even sure I'd have noticed immediately, maybe 10 seconds in or so...1 -
SporadicAddick said:Dazzler21 said:cafcsinger said:Dazzler21 said:cafcsinger said:Nothing wrong with the thread title
Just to confirm if Sandgaard and his ego did one, we would be ownerless and accruing debts of 500k a month plus player salaries.2 -
Dazzler21 said:SporadicAddick said:Many in the ground on Saturday had waited 18 months to see the team come out to RRR - it was to be a moment that signified a degree of normality, a return to something familiar, a moment to remember what had been missed. This was the fans moment, not TS's.
I am not even sure I'd have noticed immediately, maybe 10 seconds in or so...
- Walking down Charlton Church Lane / Floyd Road
- Meetings mates for a beer
- Going through the turnstiles
- Walking up the steps and the first view of the ground
- The players coming out to RRR
- "Come on you reds" when we get a corner
- VFR (though at normal tempo...)
For me, all of these things are part of the event - whether we win lose or draw, whether we are in the Premier League or League One, these things are constant and what I'm emotionally tied to. Players, managers and owners move on, these things don't. If my enjoyment of the day was only linked to results, I would have given up years ago...
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Great response by Thomas and the club, very happy here5
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I have not been a regular at matches for quite a while. The whole physical process of a game, parking, the walking and the stairs is now just too much for me, BUT the last time I got my decrepid old carcass along to the Valley, when the RRR struck up, the hairs on my neck stood up, my aches and pains disapeared suddenly and I was 14 again standing there with my grandad and uncles.
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sirjohnhumphrey said:To be honest if Thomas didn’t have an ego it is unlikely he would be in a position to have saved us in the first place. It is probably his ego, drive and determination that helped him make his millions. Some of which he is pumping into us. I think we accept it as part of his make up and acknowledge he may get it wrong in the future at some point. He has done the right thing here.But the work so far on the training ground, the medical dept, the staff restructure, the women’s team, the mascots, the renaming of a stand for a legend…surely point to a man who is seeing the bigger picture of our club and what is important to the fan base.
Yes, we’d all like to be in a position now where we had a full squad and we are certainly short. But surely he wouldn’t do all he has done if he was going to neglect developing and improving the squad. We will have to wait to see how that develops of course.0 -
There's no need to go around in circles now. All areas have been covered and surely we just act mature enough to not antagonise a debate that's had water placed over the fire.0
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Do us “all” a favour admin and kindly close the thread, it’s been done to death and is in danger of going over the same old ground again and again……IMHO.
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soapy_jones said:I have not been a regular at matches for quite a while. The whole physical process of a game, parking, the walking and the stairs is now just too much for me, BUT the last time I got my decrepid old carcass along to the Valley, when the RRR struck up, the hairs on my neck stood up, my aches and pains disapeared suddenly and I was 14 again standing there with my grandad and uncles.0
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SoundAsa£ said:Do us “all” a favour admin and kindly close the thread, it’s been done to death and is in danger of going over the same old ground again and again……IMHO.
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At this point, I'd actually like them to play it when the players walk out just to see Twitter blow up.5
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Scoham said:2
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Forget booing the knee, boo every time they play that piece of crap.2
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Thank you for listening Mr Sandgaard. It's such a refreshing change to have an owner that does that.5
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Well played TS (the decision, not the song). I hope that I never hear that record ever again, I fecking hate soft metal.0
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Don’t worry, anytime soon the bedwetters and conspiracy theorists will find another hobby horse to overreact and moralise about.
Never in a million years was he going to dump RRR, compete over reaction by some.2 -
DA9 said:Don’t worry, anytime soon the bedwetters and conspiracy theorists will find another hobby horse to overreact and moralise about.
Never in a million years was he going to dump RRR, compete over reaction by some.
It actually sounds more like:
overacting x reaction/reaction³ +(- moan²)
Which, believe it or not, equates = 0
That means, there isn't anything actually wrong here, overall.3 -
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Our esteemed ex owner has a new vehicle...
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