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Charlie Kirk (p68 - released by Barrow)

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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    ElliotCAFC said:
    AFKABartram said:
    So is the collective feeling that this is a notch up from Liam Millar?
    100%. Millar is quicker and probably better 1v1 - but there’s no comparison when it comes to goals,  assist and build up play in general. 

    It’s a massive asset that he can go both left and right, as can DJ on the other side.
    feels like it to me - didnt millar go for over a million?? just shows we seem to be shopping smartly and how inflated some players price tags are when the premiership teams are involved
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited August 2021
    From that video he plays wider than Claus Jensen used to. Now Claus wasn't known for the crunching tackle, or any kind of tackle particularly, but both Kirk and Claus seem the kind of players who are not afraid of, or phased by, having the ball get it under control immediately, and look comfortable and unrushed in possession, and have a touch of insouciance about their play. 
    Have to see and concentrate on Charlie Kirk live to start weighing things up, but on the face of it this seems a quite marvellous signing.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2021
    Exiled_Addick said:
    sammy391 said:



    Surely this has to be sung!!
    Doesn’t rhyme or scan. 
    Apart from the rhyme?
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    My daughter's fiance played against him last year and really rates him, so 🤞 he will be a great asset. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    Very excited by this one. Good player already but long contract and young enough to grow with the club 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    Croydon said:
    Please don't sing 'Charlie Kirk Kirk Kirk'
    Nailed on with our unimaginative fans
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    killerandflash said:
    Great news. As always we sign someone when I am out - that usually is the trigger for an announcement ;)
    You don't get out much! Been isolating?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    EugenesAxe said:
    golfaddick said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    EastStand said:
    WSS said:
    Some analysis from a CAFC fan:

    https://creweanalytics.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-swaps-cafc-forcafc-goodbye?r=1iicw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy
    "It may seem like a sideways move to some" - lol, sure it does. 
    "The key thing to note is how Kirk puts chances on a plate for attackers. Most of these assists were low passes to players within 10 yards of goal."

    So Stockley will either have to go on his hands and knees to score or learn to kick...
    Or we sign a poacher. Don't think Stockley or Washington are what you need if you have DJ and Kirk in your side.
    Ahem…. Ronnie 🥸
    God if Ronnie developed a partnership with Kirk we would be transformed.
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,865
    There is one attribute which Kirk possesses that I haven't seen mentioned yet ... he will get kicked up in the air by some of the 'industrial strength' defenders who populate League 1.

    Goals? Assists?  Who cares?

    Playing against ten men?  Oh yes.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,481
    Dave Rudd said:
    There is one attribute which Kirk possesses that I haven't seen mentioned yet ... he will get kicked up in the air by some of the 'industrial strength' defenders who populate League 1.

    Goals? Assists?  Who cares?

    Playing against ten men?  Oh yes.
    Well he’s been playing League 1 football for a while now, so he should know all about that wouldn’t you say.
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  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,865
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Dave Rudd said:
    There is one attribute which Kirk possesses that I haven't seen mentioned yet ... he will get kicked up in the air by some of the 'industrial strength' defenders who populate League 1.

    Goals? Assists?  Who cares?

    Playing against ten men?  Oh yes.
    Well he’s been playing League 1 football for a while now, so he should know all about that wouldn’t you say.
    Yes.

    And bring it on, I say.
  • SouthNorwoodAddick
    SouthNorwoodAddick Posts: 107
    Our first 4+ year contract in over five years! Exciting times 

    http://southnorwoodaddick.com/2021/08/13/and-kirk-makes-it-six/
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    SouthNorwoodAddick said:
    Our first 4+ year contract in over five years! Exciting times 

    http://southnorwoodaddick.com/2021/08/13/and-kirk-makes-it-six/
    Excellent stuff thanks. Liked the graph especially comparing average contract lengths of the last half a dozen seasons.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    I'm over the moon with this signing. He was class last season for Crewe and is more than capable of playing the level above 
  • dajavouslagan
    dajavouslagan Posts: 723
    Exactly the kind of signing we should be making!  
    Very pleased with this one! 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    SouthNorwoodAddick said:
    Our first 4+ year contract in over five years! Exciting times 

    http://southnorwoodaddick.com/2021/08/13/and-kirk-makes-it-six/
    Good work, enjoyed reading that!! 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    I’m sure this has already been linked, but really enjoyed reading this blog from a Crewe fan about Kirk’s strengths/weaknesses and how he could fit at Charlton 


    “He’ll slot it nicely on the left wing of Charlton’s favoured 433 formation. Still, Charlton would do well to get a mobile left back behind him who is willing to overlap and provide width on the left; Chris Gunter (for all his strengths) isn’t this.“
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    260 comments and unless I have missed it not 1 negative on Charlie ! That's amazing in itself 
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
    Dave Rudd said:
    There is one attribute which Kirk possesses that I haven't seen mentioned yet ... he will get kicked up in the air by some of the 'industrial strength' defenders who populate League 1.

    Goals? Assists?  Who cares?

    Playing against ten men?  Oh yes.
    Do we ever win against ten men though?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Football folklore says it’s harder to play against 10 men, in that case imagine how much harder still it would be to play against 9…or 8🎸
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    AndyG said:
    260 comments and unless I have missed it not 1 negative on Charlie ! That's amazing in itself 
    Give it about 2 minutes into his debut when he misplaces a pass.
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    edited August 2021
    addick1956 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    AFKABartram said:
    So is the collective feeling that this is a notch up from Liam Millar?
    100%. Millar is quicker and probably better 1v1 - but there’s no comparison when it comes to goals,  assist and build up play in general. 

    It’s a massive asset that he can go both left and right, as can DJ on the other side.
    Two of the best wingers I a pairing I can recall watching Charlton were Glover and Kenning. Glover on the left and Kenning on the right.  

    Glover was tricky and loved a dribble.
    Kenning,  very quick. They would swap sides at some point which would  confuse the backs and change the point of attack. Maybe we can do that with these Kirk and DJ
    Kirk is being called a winger but from what I’ve seen he is not a dribbler who pushes the ball past defenders. Nothing like DJ or Miller but technically head and shoulders above them.

    He seems to have played a very specific role for Crewe taking up position on the wing to set up plays for runners down the channel and into the box and making late runs when the ball is coming from the right. Looks like he could easily fit into a more central 10 role but his lack of tackling instinct might be an issue.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Just seen his highlights reel on Twitter.  Looks very composed 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Stylistically (if not quality wise) he reminds me a bit of Andy Reid. Not got crazy pace but can beat a man and get a killer pass in. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    He had us all ends up last season, found space, attacked the fullback and put balls into dangerous areas 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,291
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    EugenesAxe said:
    golfaddick said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    EastStand said:
    WSS said:
    Some analysis from a CAFC fan:

    https://creweanalytics.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-swaps-cafc-forcafc-goodbye?r=1iicw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy
    "It may seem like a sideways move to some" - lol, sure it does. 
    "The key thing to note is how Kirk puts chances on a plate for attackers. Most of these assists were low passes to players within 10 yards of goal."

    So Stockley will either have to go on his hands and knees to score or learn to kick...
    Or we sign a poacher. Don't think Stockley or Washington are what you need if you have DJ and Kirk in your side.
    Ahem…. Ronnie 🥸
    God if Ronnie developed a partnership with Kirk we would be transformed.
    In my own fantastical mind, I’m imagining NA has been playing the long game with Ronnie, looking for a player that can give him the service he needs…
    One can dream
  • Sven_the_Viking
    Sven_the_Viking Posts: 200
    JamesSeed said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    sammy391 said:



    Surely this has to be sung!!
    Doesn’t rhyme or scan. 
    Apart from the rhyme?
    ... and the fact it scans when sung to the tune of "Starman".

  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    Sven_the_Viking said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    sammy391 said:

    D

    Surely this has to be sung!!
    Doesn’t rhyme or scan. 
    Apart from the rhyme?
    ... and the fact it scans when sung to the tune of "Starman".

    Could do with an extra syllable in the Charlie Kirk line
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,291
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Sven_the_Viking said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    sammy391 said:

    D

    Surely this has to be sung!!
    Doesn’t rhyme or scan. 
    Apart from the rhyme?
    ... and the fact it scans when sung to the tune of "Starman".

    Could do with an extra syllable in the Charlie Kirk line
    ‘He is’ instead of ‘he’s’
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    Many miles have I travelled
    Many games have I seen 
    Following Kirky my favourite twenty
    Many hours have I spent in the Covered End Choir
    Singing Charlie Dave Kirk
    My only desire

    Charlie Dave Kirk
    The mist rolling in from the Thames my desire
    Is always to be found at Charlie Dave Kirk

    Doesn't really make sense or scan well, but surely would be the only football song in history to incorporate a player's abbreviated middle name.
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