Personally, after my Roland boycott, I feel that I have lost the urge to go to games. I held a season ticket for 20+ years until I started my Valley Boycott and now I feel more distant from the club and the home fans (my season ticket was for J block about six rows from the back, so I am not an old git, I just feel I wouldn’t fit in there anymore). I feel that asking me to pay £400+ is no longer realistic anymore.
living in Dorset means a day out at the Valley will cost the two of us over £100, add to that the Covid thing and a trip to watch Charlton becomes less inviting. As for away games there are few near us unlike when in Lancashire when we went to so many away games. Then there is the football, I don't really mind L1 but would prefer the Championship but not the Prem, however I don't identify with any of the current players or the manager which reduces the anticipation and excitement. So I think we'll stay in Dorset, watch Charlton TV and hope for better days ahead. But if they sign a few good players and start winning.................????????
Been there, seen it, got the tee shirt. The traffic getting away from the ground is appalling and I have to consider the GLW. I can’t spend all of my time on Charlton Life and then justifying spend a whole day away from home only for me to be in a bad mood every time we lose … which is quite often these days
edit : The only exceptions to away games is going to a place where there’s a shopping centre that the GLW likes. In particular, Portsmouth and Oxford.
I started boycotting after the Burnley Championship winning match after being practically ever present since 65/66. Although I missed coming to the Valley I had other things to occupy myself with, so after I while it became a habit to just follow the game online. When the scum arrived I was on the verge of buying a half season but something held me back but I came to see the West Brom league match & then with Mouthalls interview when he couldn't stop the lies flowing from his disgusting mouth there was no way I was giving him my money. When Sandgaard arrived the wave of optimism that swept the club had me excited & I would have bought a season but of Course Covid was upon us. End of last season we were led to believe that we would be building a squad capable of pushing for automatic promotion or at least the play offs & I waited for some decent signings & waited ............................. & waited. Now as we all know we had been led once more up the garden path & I just can't be bothered anymore. Of course we have Sandgaard to thank for saving our club from possible extinction & for paying the operating costs etc & we will always be grateful for that but if we can't even be competitive in Division 3 I will carry on supporting on line & maybe one day I get that urge back to come to the Valley & watch some live footie.
I guess that having rekindled my love of football in 2015 the fire still burns quite brightly, especially as I’m glass half full by nature.
Less so for my boys who loved the playoff final, but have limited patience for L1 when all their mates are flippin’ Chelsea or Arsenal. Hoping to bring one of them to the Crewe game, although it’ll have to come with a health warning.
For me the current mess is all part of the drama you expect with Charlton. BUT, another Slade-like season of struggling in the lower reaches of L1 is bound to dim the passion a little. Can only imaging what it’s like for you real long term fans who’ve had to put up with this stuff for much longer; since Curbs moved on, I guess.
The extra time goal by JJ against QPR, and the Wembley final... Those are my recent happy memories of following this club from afar but sadly they seem like ten years ago to me now.
I follow a West Ham fan account on Chinese social media (I started to follow it around 2014 but rarely read what they post nowadays) and noticed the other day that it has got over 110k followers, while the account I set up for us in 2016 currently only has 2900+ followers. I know we can't compete with clubs like West Ham but I really envy that account, envy how big it has become in just a few years time. Like someone said above, it's frustrating that we are so far behind not just Palace but even Millwall now... I don't even talk about Charlton with anyone in my life now because there's nothing to talk about. I still do match results updates using my social media account I just mentioned above but there's been very little to be excited for really. Like others I used to like a lot of the players in the squad, JJ, Yann, Rhoys Wiggins, (even Laurie Wilson😆), Jordan Cousins, Chris Solly, Lile Taylor, Patrick Bauer, Josh Cullen, Jonny Williams even though we were in the third division. But now I'm not particularly interested in anyone...maybe except JFC...
I'm sure if and when form starts to pick up and results start to get better, the mood will change but in the last couple of seasons the posts on CL have become more interesting than the football itself...
I was well up for Saturdays game - my first since the game before lockdown. Had a couple of beers, chatted to my boys about how good it was to go back. Sitting down half an hour before in the ground looking around thinking how good it was to be back….then the team was read out…..the lack of interest started, by half time is was bored of it, by the final whistle I was hoping for another lockdown. I actually think I spent more time looking up results of other matches than watching the game.
Got my season tickets, and for me it’s spending quality father and son time with my boys - but the 90 min bit in the middle of the day totally ruins it.
Hopefully a few new signings will happen and reignite the flame.
And theres the problem. Too many go to the football to watch the football.
I know - I might have a skinful before the game Saturday, move my ticket to the west stand and have a siesta between 3-4.45
I was well up for Saturdays game - my first since the game before lockdown. Had a couple of beers, chatted to my boys about how good it was to go back. Sitting down half an hour before in the ground looking around thinking how good it was to be back….then the team was read out…..the lack of interest started, by half time is was bored of it, by the final whistle I was hoping for another lockdown. I actually think I spent more time looking up results of other matches than watching the game.
Got my season tickets, and for me it’s spending quality father and son time with my boys - but the 90 min bit in the middle of the day totally ruins it.
Hopefully a few new signings will happen and reignite the flame.
And theres the problem. Too many go to the football to watch the football.
I know - I might have a skinful before the game Saturday, move my ticket to the west stand and have a siesta between 3-4.45
Might be best to get in the boozer for 11am. Get to the ground for when the turnstiles open 1.30pm , take in the pre match build up then 3pm back down the boozer.
There is only one real factor as always, the team need to start wining games. If we had 10 points instead of 1 point, Gillingham would be sold out.
Sold out, despite finances, Covid, loss of habit, online possibilities, etc.
and if we had say 6 points from 4, had scored maybe 6 goals in those games, and had a clear structure to the team, a game plan to go with it, while needing to bed new players in and recruit a couple of back ups in the squad?
Curbs had it right during Saturday's post match comments about player's getting booed. He said they have to take it as professionals and it is their responsibility to lift the crowd by giving them something to cheer and get excited about, which followed comments at half time about the crowd being very quiet.
I've watched each game so far and it's not kicked on from where last season ended. Sure there was disappointment missing out on the play-offs, but it felt that better times were around the corner, if TS and the team had a summer break to fix all of the 'holes in the roof'. It now feels as though they've employed a cowboy builder and even though the jobs been done it's pissing down in every room. Adkins had 1 defeat in 10 after taking over and now with 4 defeats on the bounce, it's looking like we'd be lucky to get 1 win in 10.
I love the matchday when I can make it, but it's a tough ask to get motivated by what's being served up.
I was well up for Saturdays game - my first since the game before lockdown. Had a couple of beers, chatted to my boys about how good it was to go back. Sitting down half an hour before in the ground looking around thinking how good it was to be back….then the team was read out…..the lack of interest started, by half time is was bored of it, by the final whistle I was hoping for another lockdown. I actually think I spent more time looking up results of other matches than watching the game.
Got my season tickets, and for me it’s spending quality father and son time with my boys - but the 90 min bit in the middle of the day totally ruins it.
Hopefully a few new signings will happen and reignite the flame.
And theres the problem. Too many go to the football to watch the football.
I know - I might have a skinful before the game Saturday, move my ticket to the west stand and have a siesta between 3-4.45
Maybe the club needs a new hospitality package where you pay £2000 for food and drink while watching Charlton TV, but don't actually have a ticket for the match
I was also enjoying it less because of the whole stand-up, sit-down issue and some of the knobhead's following us away.
I go to aways with my gf who is shorter then me, and it only takes a medium sized dude to be standing in front of us and then my gf wont be able to see anything and the day is ruined for her. If theres room to change seats that issue can be mitigated, but if its a sellout its pot luck on if she will actually be able to watch the game.
I wouldn't worry too much. If you keep taking her to Charlton games you'll be single soon anyway.
I was also enjoying it less because of the whole stand-up, sit-down issue and some of the knobhead's following us away.
I go to aways with my gf who is shorter then me, and it only takes a medium sized dude to be standing in front of us and then my gf wont be able to see anything and the day is ruined for her. If theres room to change seats that issue can be mitigated, but if its a sellout its pot luck on if she will actually be able to watch the game.
I wouldn't worry too much. If you keep taking her to Charlton games you'll be single soon anyway.
Streaming for me, pure and simple. I typically attend matches on my own as my sons have lost nearly all interest. For £10 I can watch the game in the comfort of my house and not waste most of my Saturday. Not sure I will attend another unless we get back to the Prem where it's at least a proper experience again.
I was also enjoying it less because of the whole stand-up, sit-down issue and some of the knobhead's following us away.
I go to aways with my gf who is shorter then me, and it only takes a medium sized dude to be standing in front of us and then my gf wont be able to see anything and the day is ruined for her. If theres room to change seats that issue can be mitigated, but if its a sellout its pot luck on if she will actually be able to watch the game.
I wouldn't worry too much. If you keep taking her to Charlton games you'll be single soon anyway.
Not sure about that, its been nearly 12 years!
In which case you might be single soon if you don't pop the question mate!
I’m very much picking and choosing away games, depending on how the teams doing / whether it’s a ground I’ve not been to or not before, I’m not interested in gillingham or Wycombe, these days there’s got be a blooming good reason to go, because it takes up so much time, if I was retired then I would go to more away games, I’d make a thing of it, stay in a hotel, maybe do some sight seeing and make it a bit of a break, but when you’re working it’s a lot harder, and I have less free time.
The extra time goal by JJ against QPR, and the Wembley final... Those are my recent happy memories of following this club from afar but sadly they seem like ten years ago to me now.
I follow a West Ham fan account on Chinese social media (I started to follow it around 2014 but rarely read what they post nowadays) and noticed the other day that it has got over 110k followers, while the account I set up for us in 2016 currently only has 2900+ followers. I know we can't compete with clubs like West Ham but I really envy that account, envy how big it has become in just a few years time. Like someone said above, it's frustrating that we are so far behind not just Palace but even Millwall now... I don't even talk about Charlton with anyone in my life now because there's nothing to talk about. I still do match results updates using my social media account I just mentioned above but there's been very little to be excited for really. Like others I used to like a lot of the players in the squad, JJ, Yann, Rhoys Wiggins, (even Laurie Wilson😆), Jordan Cousins, Chris Solly, Lile Taylor, Patrick Bauer, Josh Cullen, Jonny Williams even though we were in the third division. But now I'm not particularly interested in anyone...maybe except JFC...
I'm sure if and when form starts to pick up and results start to get better, the mood will change but in the last couple of seasons the posts on CL have become more interesting than the football itself...
That's the same with me Jessie, and I live with two other Charlton fans.
The extra time goal by JJ against QPR, and the Wembley final... Those are my recent happy memories of following this club from afar but sadly they seem like ten years ago to me now.
I follow a West Ham fan account on Chinese social media (I started to follow it around 2014 but rarely read what they post nowadays) and noticed the other day that it has got over 110k followers, while the account I set up for us in 2016 currently only has 2900+ followers. I know we can't compete with clubs like West Ham but I really envy that account, envy how big it has become in just a few years time. Like someone said above, it's frustrating that we are so far behind not just Palace but even Millwall now... I don't even talk about Charlton with anyone in my life now because there's nothing to talk about. I still do match results updates using my social media account I just mentioned above but there's been very little to be excited for really. Like others I used to like a lot of the players in the squad, JJ, Yann, Rhoys Wiggins, (even Laurie Wilson😆), Jordan Cousins, Chris Solly, Lile Taylor, Patrick Bauer, Josh Cullen, Jonny Williams even though we were in the third division. But now I'm not particularly interested in anyone...maybe except JFC...
I'm sure if and when form starts to pick up and results start to get better, the mood will change but in the last couple of seasons the posts on CL have become more interesting than the football itself...
That's the same with me Jessie, and I live with two other Charlton fans.
Charlton, the love that dare not speak its name...
I was also enjoying it less because of the whole stand-up, sit-down issue and some of the knobhead's following us away.
I go to aways with my gf who is shorter then me, and it only takes a medium sized dude to be standing in front of us and then my gf wont be able to see anything and the day is ruined for her. If theres room to change seats that issue can be mitigated, but if its a sellout its pot luck on if she will actually be able to watch the game.
I don't think goldfishes care that much about football anyway mate.
The extra time goal by JJ against QPR, and the Wembley final... Those are my recent happy memories of following this club from afar but sadly they seem like ten years ago to me now.
I follow a West Ham fan account on Chinese social media (I started to follow it around 2014 but rarely read what they post nowadays) and noticed the other day that it has got over 110k followers, while the account I set up for us in 2016 currently only has 2900+ followers. I know we can't compete with clubs like West Ham but I really envy that account, envy how big it has become in just a few years time. Like someone said above, it's frustrating that we are so far behind not just Palace but even Millwall now... I don't even talk about Charlton with anyone in my life now because there's nothing to talk about. I still do match results updates using my social media account I just mentioned above but there's been very little to be excited for really. Like others I used to like a lot of the players in the squad, JJ, Yann, Rhoys Wiggins, (even Laurie Wilson😆), Jordan Cousins, Chris Solly, Lile Taylor, Patrick Bauer, Josh Cullen, Jonny Williams even though we were in the third division. But now I'm not particularly interested in anyone...maybe except JFC...
I'm sure if and when form starts to pick up and results start to get better, the mood will change but in the last couple of seasons the posts on CL have become more interesting than the football itself...
That's the same with me Jessie, and I live with two other Charlton fans.
For me I feel it's an age thing. I have supported Charlton since I was 9 years old, followed them all over the country as well as god knows how many consecutive seasons as a season ticket holder. I would have sold a kidney when I was younger if it had helped the lads but I just don't feel the same now I am in my 60's.
Football has changed and the fun has gone out the game, for me anyway. I shed tears when we sold Lenny Glover to Leicester, sulked for days when Derek Hales was sold however now I expect it when we sell a decent player and don't bat an eyelid.
Covid has played a small part however I have a lot of interests as well as three grandkids however whilst I have the time I don't feel inclined to give up a large chunk of my weekend to watch today's modern game.
Whimpey players wearing gloves, diving as if they have been mown down by an Uzi sub machine gun, screaming on the way down. Social media, foreign owners, Sky TV and the money that goes with it.
I will always love Charlton and watch them when I fancy it but I do not love football anymore.
Regarding seeing a match in person, I've not been simply because although I'm now allowed in the country, the government make it too complicated once arrived. If any one person on my plane or train tests positive on the 2nd day then it's ten days isolation. Taking this worst case scenario it was logistically impossible two weeks ago because there would have been no-one home with the kids last week. If we'd gone last week then we could have missed our current barge trip. If I'd gone with the kids, we could be stuck in a hotel room together for ten days!
Regarding the international pass on Charlton TV I haven't bought one, not because the other teams play ugly football in this 3rd division but because we do. We are like watching the worst long ball bunch of cloggers the league has seen since Preston two seasons ago who had Stockley in their team. I know no-one here will agree with me but having this player is the root cause of our playing style. I will only begrudgingly accept it if we are top two-four placed. Instead unsurprisingly we are bottom four.
Finally I am of the minority opinion that Covid19 policy is inherently wrong. This thread is another consequence of the joy of life generally being (unnecessarily imo) slowly drained from us. Life is simply more difficult in many aspects than before and people get tired of the problems doing varied activities creates and so just stop. In sports, there seems to be fewer people at our tennis club, I'm playing less, my wife goes running less, my children have lost interest in their sports. Using football as an example, the reduced interest is not wholly due to the football at our club. Attendances are down generally, aren't they?
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I feel that asking me to pay £400+ is no longer realistic anymore.
3 hours travel and rubbish football or a stream and some extra time to spend with people.
Then there is the football, I don't really mind L1 but would prefer the Championship but not the Prem, however I don't identify with any of the current players or the manager which reduces the anticipation and excitement. So I think we'll stay in Dorset, watch Charlton TV and hope for better days ahead.
But if they sign a few good players and start winning.................????????
edit : The only exceptions to away games is going to a place where there’s a shopping centre that the GLW likes. In particular, Portsmouth and Oxford.
I follow a West Ham fan account on Chinese social media (I started to follow it around 2014 but rarely read what they post nowadays) and noticed the other day that it has got over 110k followers, while the account I set up for us in 2016 currently only has 2900+ followers. I know we can't compete with clubs like West Ham but I really envy that account, envy how big it has become in just a few years time. Like someone said above, it's frustrating that we are so far behind not just Palace but even Millwall now... I don't even talk about Charlton with anyone in my life now because there's nothing to talk about. I still do match results updates using my social media account I just mentioned above but there's been very little to be excited for really. Like others I used to like a lot of the players in the squad, JJ, Yann, Rhoys Wiggins, (even Laurie Wilson😆), Jordan Cousins, Chris Solly, Lile Taylor, Patrick Bauer, Josh Cullen, Jonny Williams even though we were in the third division. But now I'm not particularly interested in anyone...maybe except JFC...
I'm sure if and when form starts to pick up and results start to get better, the mood will change but in the last couple of seasons the posts on CL have become more interesting than the football itself...
Get to the ground for when the turnstiles open 1.30pm , take in the pre match build up then 3pm back down the boozer.
If we had 10 points instead of 1 point, Gillingham would be sold out.
Sold out, despite finances, Covid, loss of habit, online possibilities, etc.
Reckon that would be enough for a sell-out too.
I've watched each game so far and it's not kicked on from where last season ended. Sure there was disappointment missing out on the play-offs, but it felt that better times were around the corner, if TS and the team had a summer break to fix all of the 'holes in the roof'. It now feels as though they've employed a cowboy builder and even though the jobs been done it's pissing down in every room. Adkins had 1 defeat in 10 after taking over and now with 4 defeats on the bounce, it's looking like we'd be lucky to get 1 win in 10.
I love the matchday when I can make it, but it's a tough ask to get motivated by what's being served up.
For me I feel it's an age thing. I have supported Charlton since I was 9 years old, followed them all over the country as well as god knows how many consecutive seasons as a season ticket holder. I would have sold a kidney when I was younger if it had helped the lads but I just don't feel the same now I am in my 60's.
Football has changed and the fun has gone out the game, for me anyway. I shed tears when we sold Lenny Glover to Leicester, sulked for days when Derek Hales was sold however now I expect it when we sell a decent player and don't bat an eyelid.
Covid has played a small part however I have a lot of interests as well as three grandkids however whilst I have the time I don't feel inclined to give up a large chunk of my weekend to watch today's modern game.
Whimpey players wearing gloves, diving as if they have been mown down by an Uzi sub machine gun, screaming on the way down. Social media, foreign owners, Sky TV and the money that goes with it.
I will always love Charlton and watch them when I fancy it but I do not love football anymore.
Regarding the international pass on Charlton TV I haven't bought one, not because the other teams play ugly football in this 3rd division but because we do. We are like watching the worst long ball bunch of cloggers the league has seen since Preston two seasons ago who had Stockley in their team. I know no-one here will agree with me but having this player is the root cause of our playing style. I will only begrudgingly accept it if we are top two-four placed. Instead unsurprisingly we are bottom four.
Finally I am of the minority opinion that Covid19 policy is inherently wrong. This thread is another consequence of the joy of life generally being (unnecessarily imo) slowly drained from us. Life is simply more difficult in many aspects than before and people get tired of the problems doing varied activities creates and so just stop. In sports, there seems to be fewer people at our tennis club, I'm playing less, my wife goes running less, my children have lost interest in their sports. Using football as an example, the reduced interest is not wholly due to the football at our club. Attendances are down generally, aren't they?